Recency bias - they were on top for the last 10 minutes and recorded their first shot on goal on the 82nd minute - we were comfortably on top before that.Why’s he so insistent that West Ham have/had been the better team? Weird take to me
Did he say that? At the end he said you couldn't begrudge them an equaliser and they'd be worthy of a point after the last 15 minutes.... which is a fair take.Why’s he so insistent that West Ham have/had been the better team? Weird take to me
This is a bizarre take.As much as a man child Ronaldo is, I’m glad he blanked Neville. Puts him in his place abit. Loves the sound of his own voice too much these days. Over the top praising other teams, talks about mental health issues when it comes to Maguire but himself piles on others. Yeah, how did that feel Gary?
What's his place exactly? He spoke truth to all the nonsense Ronaldo's other ex-colleagues were spouting and so gets blanked. If anyone needs to be put in his place in this instance, it's not Gary.As much as a man child Ronaldo is, I’m glad he blanked Neville. Puts him in his place abit. Loves the sound of his own voice too much these days. Over the top praising other teams, talks about mental health issues when it comes to Maguire but himself piles on others. Yeah, how did that feel Gary?
What a wild take this is.As much as a man child Ronaldo is, I’m glad he blanked Neville. Puts him in his place abit. Loves the sound of his own voice too much these days. Over the top praising other teams, talks about mental health issues when it comes to Maguire but himself piles on others. Yeah, how did that feel Gary?
I'm not sure about that. I honestly don't think Neville cares.As much as a man child Ronaldo is, I’m glad he blanked Neville. Puts him in his place abit. Loves the sound of his own voice too much these days. Over the top praising other teams, talks about mental health issues when it comes to Maguire but himself piles on others. Yeah, how did that feel Gary?
If you think Neville loves his own voice, just imagine how much Ronaldo loves himself.As much as a man child Ronaldo is, I’m glad he blanked Neville. Puts him in his place abit. Loves the sound of his own voice too much these days. Over the top praising other teams, talks about mental health issues when it comes to Maguire but himself piles on others. Yeah, how did that feel Gary?
Yep pretty much this. Neville said what he said knowing full well Ronaldo would hear it. He just doesn’t give a shit as he cares more about Utd than Ronaldo’s feelings. I’m glad he’s the first one of his ex-mates to have the balls to say it and be honest.I'm not sure about that. I honestly don't think Neville cares.
Neville cares for Neville. His own opinions are what are important to him. His own friendships, Ole for example above United, I’m sure Ronaldo and Neville were never friends.Yep pretty much this. Neville said what he said knowing full well Ronaldo would hear it. He just doesn’t give a shit as he cares more about Utd than Ronaldo’s feelings. I’m glad he’s the first one of his ex-mates to have the balls to say it and be honest.
Exactly this. Neville has a side/narrative than sticks to it and will fit everything he says around it. With this Ronaldo issue he chose to stick the boot in. For all the flack Keane is taking, he didn’t actually say Ronaldo shouldn’t be punished he just played it down. Neville could and should have done similar but chose to make a mountain out of a molehill because that’s how he wanted to play it and he does like big bold statements and headlines.Neville cares for Neville. His own opinions are what are important to him. His own friendships, Ole for example above United, I’m sure Ronaldo and Neville were never friends.
Don't think that's as black and white as that. He clearly loves the club and always has - and is one of the few outspoken ones about the Glazers too.Neville cares for Neville. His own opinions are what are important to him. His own friendships, Ole for example above United, I’m sure Ronaldo and Neville were never friends.
It was quite the opposite.Exactly this. Neville has a side/narrative than sticks to it and will fit everything he says around it. With this Ronaldo issue he chose to stick the boot in. For all the flack Keane is taking, he didn’t actually say Ronaldo shouldn’t be punished he just played it down. Neville could and should have done similar but chose to make a mountain out of a molehill because that’s how he wanted to play it and he does like big bold statements and headlines.
Yeah sure Keane rambled a bit but he didn’t ever say Ronaldo shouldn’t be punished, that’s the only point I was making about Keane. Neville was not right and it was a daft thing to say that Ronaldo should leave the club due to this incident. He should know better having been around for Cantona kicking people in the face and Scholes refusing to play, that burnt bridges can be built again. But he chose to approach this matter in the same ridiculously over the top manner a lot on here chose to. Considering our very limited options up front letting Ronaldo go and banishing him right now would be very stupid. Thankfully Erik Ten Hag isn’t a dramatic moron and has had the adult reasonable reaction to all of this. Punished Ronaldo for one game and integrated him back into the team.It was quite the opposite.
Keane went off on a tangent and brought up points based on his own bias. Keane wanted to rant about the same drivel that Ronaldo should start every game and Utd have disrespected him.
Neville was absolutely right in what he said. It was better for Ronaldo to leave as soon as possible and that Utd are a better team when he doesn’t play.
Keane just didn’t like being wrong and even more, admitting he’s wrong.
What is bizarre? He cares for himself and his opinions more than anything. He has his favorites and would hate on others. Just for example he piled on Pogba to the point he got tonnes of racist abuse for taking and missing a penalty and he talks about mental health for Maguire. He is a hypocrite of the highest order. I lost all the respect for him when he became a apologist for the Qataris in that documentary for the World Cup.This is a bizarre take.
The only ex red pundit who didn't embarrass himself over this Ronaldo incident was Neville. He was the only one talking sense, seems odd to be glad he was blanked in front of everyone. Such a pathetic and petty thing to do by Ronaldo.
Who has he piled onto recently by the way?
No one is denying that. Ronaldo is a selfish twat of the highest order. But Neville is no saint either. His biases to certain players has always been evident. His own opinions matter to him most than anything. Just like his apologetic tone for the the Qataris for the World Cup. Only 3 people died mind you. He creates narratives whether he is right or wrong and thinks he is the bee’s knees.If you think Neville loves his own voice, just imagine how much Ronaldo loves himself.
Disagree.Yeah sure Keane rambled a bit but he didn’t ever say Ronaldo shouldn’t be punished, that’s the only point I was making about Keane. Neville was not right and it was a daft thing to say that Ronaldo should leave the club due to this incident. He should know better having been around for Cantona kicking people in the face and Scholes refusing to play, that burnt bridges can be built again. But he chose to approach this matter in the same ridiculously over the top manner a lot on here chose to. Considering our very limited options up front letting Ronaldo go and banishing him right now would be very stupid. Thankfully Erik Ten Hag isn’t a dramatic moron and has had the adult reasonable reaction to all of this. Punished Ronaldo for one game and integrated him back into the team.
I’m not denying he doesn’t favour certain players over others. But which pundit doesn’t? Even us fans do the same. It’s impossible to be completely partial with every player and put that across at the same time in the media.No one is denying that. Ronaldo is a selfish twat of the highest order. But Neville is no saint either. His biases to certain players has always been evident. His own opinions matter to him most than anything. Just like his apologetic tone for the the Qataris for the World Cup. Only 3 people died mind you. He creates narratives whether he is right or wrong and thinks he is the bee’s knees.
jinx.For the 1st time I'd be delighted if we rid ourselves of the Ronaldo circus.
He never said he should leave the club because of this incident. He said he should leave because he won't accept not starting every game and if he wants to, he'll have to go elsewhere.Yeah sure Keane rambled a bit but he didn’t ever say Ronaldo shouldn’t be punished, that’s the only point I was making about Keane. Neville was not right and it was a daft thing to say that Ronaldo should leave the club due to this incident. He should know better having been around for Cantona kicking people in the face and Scholes refusing to play, that burnt bridges can be built again. But he chose to approach this matter in the same ridiculously over the top manner a lot on here chose to. Considering our very limited options up front letting Ronaldo go and banishing him right now would be very stupid. Thankfully Erik Ten Hag isn’t a dramatic moron and has had the adult reasonable reaction to all of this. Punished Ronaldo for one game and integrated him back into the team.
The clash with Keane after the Chelsea game:What did Nev say about Ronaldo?
5:45 the real Neville shows himself "this is great television" (x3). Absolute Sky sell-out since he joined them. I don't blame him, it's a good gig but that's where Gary's priorities lie on screen.The clash with Keane after the Chelsea game:
That’s a daft comment, he was absolutely correct in what he was saying with regards to Ronaldo, and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with somebody who works in tv acknowledging that a segment like that was tv gold.5:45 the real Neville shows himself "this is great television" (x3). Absolute Sky sell-out since he joined them. I don't blame him, it's a good gig but that's where Gary's priorities lie on screen.
The conversation wasn't exactly over was it?5:45 the real Neville shows himself "this is great television" (x3). Absolute Sky sell-out since he joined them. I don't blame him, it's a good gig but that's where Gary's priorities lie on screen.
You don't think they are encouraged to create "heated debates"?That’s a daft comment, he was absolutely correct in what he was saying with regards to Ronaldo, and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with somebody who works in tv acknowledging that a segment like that was tv gold.
In that case it’s Keane who’s the patsy given he’s the one talking nonsense to create a talking point, AND the one getting heated.You don't think they are encouraged to create "heated debates"?
You don't think they are encouraged to create "heated debates"?
There's no doubt they're all hamming it up for the cameras and are made up with any and all reaction from the public (Fox/Sky/News International 101) but for me Keane is still making a plank out of himself arguing from a ridiculous but also genuinely-held position.The only sensible reason I can find for Keano's take on the situation is that he's been paid obscene amounts of money to represent it
It's hard to believe it is a genuinely-held position, as the only requirement I can see for finding a different position is having two eyesThere's no doubt they're all hamming it up for the cameras and are made up with any and all reaction from the public (Fox/Sky/News International 101) but for me Keane is still making a plank out of himself arguing from a ridiculous but also genuinely-held position.
Dont know why we have to have our legends going at each other over a conversation point. I've never seen the same thing between the many ex-liverpool pundits.Neville is literally the only one out of the three of him, Keane and Ronaldo who has come out of this looking like a reasonable adult. Keane and Ronaldo both seem to be massively internally conflicted which they are hilariously publicly externalising in their behaviour either through getting overly defensive and reactive (Keane) or pulling bizarre juvenile gestures to try and shame others who they feel slighted them (Ronaldo).