Eriksen scores his side-footer, McT gets his header down, Martial aims better, and it’s a more representative 5-1. It wasn’t like we got played off the park.
PL W FA Premier League
Fulham 1:2 Manchester United
Post-match discussion
Sun, 13 November 2022
At times the game was very frustrating as we just constantly went for the long ball. But the offensive game plan totally worked, we were only let down by our finishing. We "only" had 14 shots but a lot of them were big chances. Our xG was the highest of any team this gameweek.
It was very nervy to watch and i don't like the pure counter tactic, but i can understand why we played like we played today. Fulham had no midweek game and in the last few weeks to me it felt like we are paying the price for playing so many starters in the EL. Our sharpness is gone, compared to games like against Spurs or Chelsea first half.
I hope that ETH rotates more in the future and only played our 1st teamers so much until now to get them used to his tactic fast. Because otherwise we will burn out very bad. And although today was effective, it was shite to watch (and without the winner a frustrating evening, with the late-winner give me this game every day of the week
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It was very nervy to watch and i don't like the pure counter tactic, but i can understand why we played like we played today. Fulham had no midweek game and in the last few weeks to me it felt like we are paying the price for playing so many starters in the EL. Our sharpness is gone, compared to games like against Spurs or Chelsea first half.
I hope that ETH rotates more in the future and only played our 1st teamers so much until now to get them used to his tactic fast. Because otherwise we will burn out very bad. And although today was effective, it was shite to watch (and without the winner a frustrating evening, with the late-winner give me this game every day of the week
)Still buzzing after that late, late winner. What a goal from the lad!
We've been running on fumes these past few weeks and second half was always going to be tough to control.
Would and maybe should have been much easier had we taken our chances. Eriksen and Martial had clear chances to put us two up, McTominay had to bury his header, and though we left it late it's great to see this side never gives up.
I see a big change in our attitude. Recent years our heads would drop when the opposition scores. Used to hate seeing our players stand around with their hands on hips. Today Malacia was having a torrid time but rolled up his sleeves and slowly got better. Not by a lot, granted, but he didn't shy away. Martinez looked absolutely gassed but never backed out of a sprint. Cas and Eriksen just kept plugging away and made the difference with moments of quality. There's a resilience running through the team that puts us in good stead.
Still lots of room for improvement, no doubt there, but we absolutely had to get three points today and have done it despite the injuries and manic schedule.
We've been running on fumes these past few weeks and second half was always going to be tough to control.
Would and maybe should have been much easier had we taken our chances. Eriksen and Martial had clear chances to put us two up, McTominay had to bury his header, and though we left it late it's great to see this side never gives up.
I see a big change in our attitude. Recent years our heads would drop when the opposition scores. Used to hate seeing our players stand around with their hands on hips. Today Malacia was having a torrid time but rolled up his sleeves and slowly got better. Not by a lot, granted, but he didn't shy away. Martinez looked absolutely gassed but never backed out of a sprint. Cas and Eriksen just kept plugging away and made the difference with moments of quality. There's a resilience running through the team that puts us in good stead.
Still lots of room for improvement, no doubt there, but we absolutely had to get three points today and have done it despite the injuries and manic schedule.
Jammy win for the team tbh after a poor second half performance, but Garnacho was a real threat and deserved it.
We are still at out best, a counter-attacking side.
Yes, it was against Fulham, but it was a match-winner for the ages.
We always seem so slow to the 2nd balls. Our anticipation is very poor. Bruno makes the cardinal mistake in trying to keep the ball in play in that situation.
The only thing that is scandalous is your spelling of Qatar.
I agree for the record...
How is De Gea not today's MOTM?
How is De Gea not going to Qatar?
Do like the look of Palinha, when does his contract end?
How is De Gea not going to Qatar?
Do like the look of Palinha, when does his contract end?
We did against Everton and it lasted 30 mins before Martial gave an assist to Antony and then went off injured
It was a good, battling performance and worthy of the 3 points, but we must stop giving the ball away or the better teams will punish us. We so badly need a proper striker, one who will get us 20 plus in the prem consistently and more in the cups. Martial is not the sort of striker or player who can be relied upon to do this, neither is Rashford though both will get their share until the usual mood swing hits them. Martinez is awesome, what a buy he has turned out to be; the way he tackles he reminds me of Keanne, Bruce, Vidic, and Staam and earlier players like Ince, Robson, Whiteside, McGrath, Moran, Crerand and Nobby. Even at his very, very best Maguire cannot come near him and selling Maguire is the best thing for him and the Club.
Between Dan James burning Martinez and Garnacho for the goal, some blistering pace on show today.
I don't think that was Bruno's fault. Lost possession consistently happens, Malacia being in position, yet not anticipating a potential loss of possesion and leaving the whole right side vacated was the issue there. During the game, he seemed to be really favoring his left side and was never really positioned close to the byline. It's not his fault of course since its not his actual position, but this body alignment and poor anticipation caused the goal.
Andreas would be more useful for us than Elanga.
Exactly, we could have won that easily. Too much negativity about this game. Loved it.
If McTominay had scored it would've been one of the great goals after passing our way down and across the pitch from just to the right of our box.
Will Erik be able to get any of those pieces in January because we are running on fumes since Chelsea away. Keep hearing talk about Fred & Maguire out in the summer but nothing much about January signings
Will admit I totally lost my shit at that goalThis is putting it nicely. Most of them are bat shit crazy, myself included.
Yeah it really does feel that we are still a fair bit away from being able to dominate and control games like City along with Arsenal & scousers in their pomp
Football. Bloody ell.
Result was never in doubt was it? We always score a late goal down the left flank away against Fulham
Funny how things come full circle. We lose a number 7 tonight, but we find another one who might just be good enough.
Result was never in doubt was it? We always score a late goal down the left flank away against Fulham
Funny how things come full circle. We lose a number 7 tonight, but we find another one who might just be good enough.
didn't Andreas jogging for our first goal when he was the one to follow or closest to martial to close him? Elanga isnt a player of untd caliber but he didn't cost us the game?
Not a steal imo
Both teams tried to win the game on and off. We missed some big opportunities just like them. In the end we got lucky.
We might have been less lucky if Mitrovic was fit though
Both teams tried to win the game on and off. We missed some big opportunities just like them. In the end we got lucky.
We might have been less lucky if Mitrovic was fit though
That was as spineless as it gets. Yes we had our chances but you dont just stop playing in the second half and invite pressure with this back 4. Aldo I like him Martinez got ran over a few times by their wide players. Not a good night for him but at least he does not shy away from tackles. His height (or lack of) was an issue too but with a decent 6,5 partner in the future that can be solved. He got lucky with the offside because he was guilty of a clear penalty just seconds after. Lindelof his usual self nothing new there. Ddg bailed us a few times as well and Im happy for him. In short we really cant rely on winning games 1 0 with this back four. Cant believe 11% of the CAF gave our CBs the MOTM award. Thank God we have a WC break
You don’t realise how good Garnacho goal actually is until you watch the whole passage of play.
Yeah I was gutted for him too. It would have been Robsonesqe
If you lost your shite over "ETH needs to rethink some ideas" sentence, then you're wasting your time and energy on Internet forums. Weird that so many controversial opinions fly around and that's what trigerred your outburst but I take it's just a bad day at the office.you mean over reactive knee jerk shite?
But they had excellent chances too if it were not for DDG
Yeah it's a very good outcome. I was not impressed with some of the recent performances. However, with so many games played I believe there's little time to train and implement new ideas, so it's a bit of survival mode. We look a bit too much of Ole team with better players, especially since Antony is missing and we don't have anything functional on that wing. Putting Bruno on the right, overplaying Casemiro and Eriksen and using van de Beek i think are mistakes which could've been avoided, but it's a learning curve. Injuries really struck us recently but we did just enough (GD represents that nicely) to slide past our opponents in many cases. That is a good foundation and the mentality is there for ETH to build on.
@Ramshock please read the rationale, hope that's not too much of a knee-jerk for you!
Good post. Few good posts in here today.
we showed great character
Players look knackered. Obvious some gaping holes in the squad. Fulham are a good side, so to get the 3 points is great. Garnacho looks quality, the lad has it all.
You started all right then you got to Ole team with better players. We're nothing like Ole team, progression in the way we play has been evident unlike under Ole where everything was gung ho and without a plan other than counter attack. Sure, as you sad, games are coming thick and fast and every now and then we're due to a bad game since we're a work in progress stil. The fact we've been looking better and better and have good results overall just 4 months into ETH reign says a lot imo. As for overplyaing players have been rotated, it's just that we played full team in EL so it seems we havent from outside. Eriksen and Casemiro have been on the bench just recently in Carabao cup.
Long story. Goes back to the abuse Utd players suffered from England fans, Beckham especially. Siege mentality. Good article on it in Athletic recently.
We were clearly not interested in keeping the ball and build from the back, happy to give the ball away and then try to recover (this worked a few times against AV in the cup and vs Fulham), most of the play came from defenders going long for attackers and Shaw was our main outlet to beat pressing and progress the play.
It's not really a big deal, the progress is evident but yesterday specifically I saw a lot of similarities to Ole ball - with better players. In those circumstances (fatigue, many injuries and players already in WC mode) I'm just glad we got the result. Unless someone wants to convince me it's how ETH wants us to play - I very much doubt so.
Eriksen was rested and you could already see the improvement in our game. Overall I think he started far too many games. For Bruno it's even worse, even if he can run all day I think he looked exhausted recently on a quite few occassions. ETH took that risk, I think this is not a good strategy but in the hindsight it paid off I guess, since Aston Villa is the only one that got away really.
Yeah, about last night game I agree, but for me its like this - if it cant go through the middle which it didnt last night try long balls. Though I agree that's probably not what ETH wants overall, that we play that way. Eriksen started all those games cause frankly we dont have anyone to play instead. Fred goes from worst to the best from game to game and I dont even want to mention VDB.
Should have kept James over Elanga.
Well I do not agree about that. Eriksen being head and shoulders above every other midfield option is not disputed, but McTominay has been doing well this season, and we did have some decent games with Fred starting in the midfield. All I am saying is we probably COULD play Eriksen - McTominay and Fred - Casemiro midfield setup in a few more games - especially since our gameplan changed a bit lately and we are happy to by-pass midfield to recover the ball from a team in transition. That doesn't seem like the best utilization of Eriksen and McTominay.
Did we really need to start Eriksen Casemiro against all of Omonia, Everton, Sheriff, West Ham and Aston VIlla in EPL? I don't think so, especially considering that we had quite a few very hard games in between. In the end we crawled past the finish line I reckon, but it's a bit worrying trend and I think we can do better with squad management.
We had more/better chances than them though. Fulham were on top for half an hour in the second half and that’s it. We were the better side for the rest of the match. Not what you’d think from comments in here.
They had excellent chances and should have scored as well. We surely were not the better team for most of the time, and only got back into the game towards the end
Stole the game, to be honest. Second best team on the pitch.
Generally poor peformance again. No intensity, no pressing, terrible passing, too many longballs, abysmal finishing compensated for by great goalkeeping. Malacia did his best, but that right side was in dire straits for most of the game. Casemiro really ended the game with 67% pass accuracy. Rashford was largely a passenger.
On the bright side, Garnacho with a brilliant goal! I hope he keeps this up. Martinez and Lindelof also did well I think. De Gea was my MOTM.
I think fatigue had a part to play and also it's obvious that everyone has their eyes on the World Cup. In the meantime, Ten Hag should put the break to good use with whoever is left and also plan the January window. It should be obvious to everyone that we are not making Top 4 without action.
Generally poor peformance again. No intensity, no pressing, terrible passing, too many longballs, abysmal finishing compensated for by great goalkeeping. Malacia did his best, but that right side was in dire straits for most of the game. Casemiro really ended the game with 67% pass accuracy. Rashford was largely a passenger.
On the bright side, Garnacho with a brilliant goal! I hope he keeps this up. Martinez and Lindelof also did well I think. De Gea was my MOTM.
I think fatigue had a part to play and also it's obvious that everyone has their eyes on the World Cup. In the meantime, Ten Hag should put the break to good use with whoever is left and also plan the January window. It should be obvious to everyone that we are not making Top 4 without action.
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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22%
Christian Eriksen
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19%
David de Gea
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5%
Lisandro Martinez
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4%
Victor Lindelof
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2%
Casemiro
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2%
Luke Shaw
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1%
Bruno Fernandes
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
Highest Rated Player
Lowest Rated Player
Compiled from 292 ratings.
Score Predictions
146,8,16
- Man Utd win
- Fulham win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 24% Fulham 0:2 Man Utd
- 23% Fulham 1:2 Man Utd
- 14% Fulham 1:3 Man Utd
- 12% Fulham 0:3 Man Utd
- 6% Fulham 1:1 Man Utd
- 4% Fulham 0:1 Man Utd
- 3% Fulham 2:3 Man Utd
- 3% Fulham 1:4 Man Utd
- 2% Fulham 2:2 Man Utd
- 2% Fulham 2:1 Man Utd
- 2% Fulham 0:4 Man Utd
- 2% Fulham 2:0 Man Utd
- 1% Fulham 0:0 Man Utd
- 1% Fulham 1:0 Man Utd
- 1% Fulham 2:4 Man Utd
- 1% Fulham 3:3 Man Utd
- 1% Fulham 0:5 Man Utd
- 1% Fulham 5:0 Man Utd
- 1% Fulham 0:9 Man Utd
Match Stats
- Fulham
- Man Utd
- Possession
- 53% 47%
- Shots
- 14 14
- Shots on Target
- 7 9
- Corners
- 10 3
- Fouls
- 9 10
Referee
Paul Tierney
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Scott McTominay
