Elon Musk | Owner of X

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Musk is about to get lucky. Market has just been flooded with some good talent from Meta and Amazon, long with other start ups. This will include some folks on visa who would be desperate enough to take a job at Twitter under the current env.
Aside from those guys that need a visa, the rest I doubt would want to touch Twitter for the same reasons that 75% want to leave. Firstly the market is still hiring, alot. Secondly, Musk's offering is not compelling at all. He wants to create a start-up, up-against-the-world mentality for a company that isn't a start-up. It's different, how...

Well first, he needs a helluva lot of engineers to run existing systems. So unlike a start-up there's no blank page for incoming talent, just shit tons of support on little to no handover. Secondly, unlike a start-up again, engineers won't have much sway like he claims and they know it. They have a sociopath at the top who will make random ad-hoc decisions (like twitter blue) and will shit on them publicly when shit doesn't work. Finally start-ups hire good talent and work them very hard, but they offer shares and the potential upside that if the company makes it they will become rich themselves. Without that potential upside, why would you go and work really long and hard? Just to make Elon rich?

And he plans to make everyone go to the office 5 days a week. Good luck with that. Most engineers would happily take a pay cut to work at a stress free environment that allows them to work remotely. The only ones who will buy into that vision are people who are at the beginning of their career. Who might not be the best fit to work for Twitter in the first place.
 

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Aside from those guys that need a visa, the rest I doubt would want to touch Twitter for the same reasons that 75% want to leave. Firstly the market is still hiring, alot. Secondly, Musk's offering is not compelling at all. He wants to create a start-up, up-against-the-world mentality for a company that isn't a start-up. It's different, how...

Well first, he needs a helluva lot of engineers to run existing systems. So unlike a start-up there's no blank page for incoming talent, just shit tons of support on little to no handover. Secondly, unlike a start-up again, engineers won't have much sway like he claims and they know it. They have a sociopath at the top who will make random ad-hoc decisions (like twitter blue) and will shit on them publicly when shit doesn't work. Finally start-ups hire good talent and work them very hard, but they offer shares and the potential upside that if the company makes it they will become rich themselves. Without that potential upside, why would you go and work really long and hard? Just to make Elon rich?

And he plans to make everyone go to the office 5 days a week. Good luck with that. Most engineers would happily take a pay cut to work at a stress free environment that allows them to work remotely. The only ones who will buy into that vision are people who are at the beginning of their career. Who might not be the best fit to work for Twitter in the first place.
Hmm I am not sure I agree that the tech market is still hot with respect to hiring. Crypto jobs pretty much froze in first half and now big tech has either frozen hiring or reduced open head counts drastically. In any case, he does has engineers working for him in other companies so he will find people to join him.
 

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Aside from those guys that need a visa, the rest I doubt would want to touch Twitter for the same reasons that 75% want to leave. Firstly the market is still hiring, alot. Secondly, Musk's offering is not compelling at all. He wants to create a start-up, up-against-the-world mentality for a company that isn't a start-up. It's different, how...

Well first, he needs a helluva lot of engineers to run existing systems. So unlike a start-up there's no blank page for incoming talent, just shit tons of support on little to no handover. Secondly, unlike a start-up again, engineers won't have much sway like he claims and they know it. They have a sociopath at the top who will make random ad-hoc decisions (like twitter blue) and will shit on them publicly when shit doesn't work. Finally start-ups hire good talent and work them very hard, but they offer shares and the potential upside that if the company makes it they will become rich themselves. Without that potential upside, why would you go and work really long and hard? Just to make Elon rich?

And he plans to make everyone go to the office 5 days a week. Good luck with that. Most engineers would happily take a pay cut to work at a stress free environment that allows them to work remotely. The only ones who will buy into that vision are people who are at the beginning of their career. Who might not be the best fit to work for Twitter in the first place.
Great summary, you’ve hit the nail on the head.

There really is no upside to joining Twitter now. They’re not going to be able to hire serious talent, there’s no reason for serious talent to join them as he’s just advertised how shit he is going to make it. What they are going to get is middle of the road talent which are sycophantic to Musk sharing his world views and in return they will do a mediocre job and he will get rid and replace again and again.
 

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This guy has become a bit of a go-to person for a lot of the twitter engineers to bitch about things. This is just the start of a thread just posted. Good read


 

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The only person to ever anthagonize anyone is John Ashcroft, who wrote his own anthem, which he forced the employees of Attorney General's office to sing every workday morning.

:lol:

Getting back on topic and trying to anticipate the next disaster: I'm no expert in this, but it sounds to me that a major social media platform with a famously dickish CEO that's losing about 80% of its staff would be a fantastic target for hackers everywhere. Isn't it? What happens with advertisers and Company value then?
 

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This guy has become a bit of a go-to person for a lot of the twitter engineers to bitch about things. This is just the start of a thread just posted. Good read


As I posted yesterday, he essentially threatened his staff with shit working conditions and physical health deterioration, or a 3month fully paid sabbatical in a highly fluid job market. What else was he expecting? How does anyone still take anything this guy says as "smart".
 

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Just incredible stuff. It's unfortunate that Elon can't just have all the fanbois who spend their days tonguing his hole run the site in exchange for his recognition of their existence.
 
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Has a degree in physics, but don’t let that stop you.
If you think their intellect is comparable, enjoy your opinion!
No I said he had a degree in physics, as in he’d studied the sciences. Guy has lots of faults but not being intelligent isn’t one of them. Will be good to see how Twitter goes, I’m hopeful it’ll improve, can see people losing their shite about it already for no reason other than Elon owns it.
 

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Daily update:

A) Overpay
B) Blow up the business model
C) Antagonize the user base
D) Scare the advertisers away
E) Fire the key workers
F) Threat the rest of the staff
G) Promise to overpay severance of 75% of them
H) Close the premises
I) ??
J) Profit
 

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Daily update:

A) Overpay
B) Blow up the business model
C) Antagonize the user base
D) Scare the advertisers away
E) Fire the key workers
F) Threat the rest of the staff
G) Promise to overpay severance of 75% of them
H) Close the premises
I) ??
J) Profit
Somewhere out in CafeLand @marktan and @Red_toad still believe I = Elon Magic
 

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Feel so shit about this, Twitter has been such a massive part of my life for 10+ years now & this guy has taken 10 days to possibly destroy it.
 

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Sooooo, would it have been faster to literally light 44bn on fire? It'd take at least a few days to get it, spread it out and so forth?
 

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Sooooo, would it have been faster to literally light 44bn on fire? It'd take at least a few days to get it, spread it out and so forth?
Ooohhh, it’s fun with math time.

he has owned Twitter for 21 day. Let’s assume a hundred dollar bill takes 30 seconds to burn and weights 1g

44 billion = 2.1 billion per day
= 87 million per hour
= 1.45 million per minute
= 730K per 30 sec
= 7,300 $100 bills per burn
= 7.3 kg burned every 30 seconds,
= 14.6 kg burned per min
= 876 kg burned per hour
= 21,000 kg burned per day
= 441,500 kg burned total
= mass of 4 blue whales, 3 747’s, or the ego of one gigantic billionaire prick.
 

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So where do we get our transfer news from now, maybe Elon should of just bought us when he was taking the piss, he would of been a hero for sacking the board, demanding players to give there all, and he would still have 35 billion in the bank after massive upgrades to the stadium and team.
 

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Got to feel for the employees of the company, but I can't help but be amused at someone claiming to be the smartest person in the world buying a company, and then potentially destroying it so quickly. Will be interesting to see if it stablises, or some other online platform quickly steps into the void.

I do have to laugh though at the updates shared from people being posted on twitter though
 

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Elon probably referring to himself sat in a room on his own. I think it will be fine though, there are people that want to work for Elon and he has apparently sold enough Tesla shares to keep Twitter running for 2023.



Could you imagine that phone call, what would you say?