Day 6: Wales vs Iran | Qatar vs Senegal | Netherlands vs Ecuador | England vs USA

Denis79

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Well we got proof there is no bribing going on atleast. Could have given a penalty easily there.
 

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Never a pen. The Qatar player initiates that for me.
So what? He's well within his rights to put the body between the ball and the defender, the defender has to pull out of the challenge or let him have a shot. Or obviously barge through him if you have a shit ref out there.

In what world can you just barge through the back of someone because he deliberately put himself between the ball and defender?
 

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How are you guys saying that's a pen? He just putting his ass and leg out in front of the defender?
 

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How hard is it for someone from VAR to tell the referee that he should review it?
 

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Those worries of Qatar buying the refs feel a long time ago now thankfully! He was definitely looking for it but it would have been easy to give.
 

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Sorry but this Senegal team without Mane is absolutely not the best team in Africa. They were fortunate to even qualify for the World Cup with Mane.
 

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Not for me, he's totally played for it. Steps across him to basically force contact
Incredibly smart attacking, either he gets barged through or the defender steps away and lets him have the shot unopposed. That is what every striker should do in that situation, put your body between ball and defender and force him to make a decision. Defender made the wrong decision but was bailed out by an awful ref.
 

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Looked extremely clumsy, but I'm not completely sure that was a pen. The attacker steps across him without actually trying to play the ball while the defender runs in a straight line.

Senegal could lose this.
 

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If we're doing whataboutisms with the Portugal game yesterday, then how was that contact valid but the Ronaldo goal disallowed? One rule for defenders in the box, one for the attackers?
 

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US aren't that bad, on a par with plenty of third seeds in other groups e.g. Poland, Australia, South Korea etc.

Hopefully they give it a decent go v England. A win and they're as good as through so that's motivation enough.
Maybe that's the issue: they're the pot 2 team. Although Wales was pot 4 but would have been 3 if the draw was done before the play-offs.

This is why you feel like there's one big team and 3 others that are all very close to each other but none comparable to say a Denmark or a Croatia.
 

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Incredibly smart attacking, either he gets barged through or the defender steps away and lets him have the shot unopposed. That is what every striker should do in that situation, put your body between ball and defender and force him to make a decision. Defender made the wrong decision but was bailed out by an awful ref.
And even worse VAR :lol:
 

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Nah not for me. He moved away from the ball to step in front of the Senegal player for no reason
Aye, never a penalty. The attacker can't just decide to cut across to engineer contact unless he's either taking the ball with him or moving towards the ball.
 

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Never a pen - good Lahoz hasn't failed for that move from the Qatari.
 

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Believe this is something Pierluigi Collina has been heavily involved in. Basically FIFA are trying to stamp out excessive and unfair time wasting. Seems to be working so far.
i remember discussions here about taking time keeping away from officials on the pitch - its making a huge difference.

So much so it appears refs have been getting it horrendously wrong for years
 

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So what? He's well within his rights to put the body between the ball and the defender, the defender has to pull out of the challenge or let him have a shot. Or obviously barge through him if you have a shit ref out there.

In what world can you just barge through the back of someone because he deliberately put himself between the ball and defender?
He steps away from the ball to initiate the contact. If he takes the ball with him the fair enough but he doesn’t. I wouldn’t complain if it was given, but I’m not a fan of ‘playing’ for a pen no matter how clever it is.
 

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Incredibly smart attacking, either he gets barged through or the defender steps away and lets him have the shot unopposed. That is what every striker should do in that situation, put your body between ball and defender and force him to make a decision. Defender made the wrong decision but was bailed out by an awful ref.
Yup. And this was more of a penalty than the Ronaldo one, where he clearly dived for it. Deserved a review at the very least.
 

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Aye, never a penalty. The attacker can't just decide to cut across to engineer contact unless he's either taking the ball with him or moving towards the ball.
You're arguing as if he ran away ten yards from the ball to put himself in front of the defender. If he hadn't been tackled he would've had a clean left-footed shot still. He put his body between the ball and defender to force the defender to make a decision (ie cutting across him).
 

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He steps away from the ball. I wouldn’t complain if it was given, but I’m not a fan of ‘playing’ for a pen no matter how clever it is.
He doesn't step away from the ball. If he isn't tackled there he still has an opportunity to shoot with his left foot (especially since the defender has backed off)