Why doesn't he have a single cap for the national team? He would be very good in their 3-5-2 formation and the competition at RWB doesn't look that great.
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Only just really breaking through. Would have been odd for him to have been involved up to this point
He was good last season as well. I think it's a bit strange he hasn't been selected yet.
Nowhere near as much hype around him plus he’s a lot weaker defensively than other options in the Dutch NT.
He didn’t get as much hype, but I would expect that the manager of the national still knew about his performances and potential. It's not like he is playing in an unknow league or something. Plus his defensive weaknesses should be partially covered by playing as a RWB and having the likes of Van Dijk, De Ligt, Timber, De Vrij and Ake covering for you.
As he gets older and stronger perhaps he can be used as a Kyle Walker ike cheat code which allows the team to play very high.
That's the key isn't it. No point just having incredible pace.
Celtic pal of mine says he is tremendously fast with decent end product but would need work defensively. I'd be up for getting rid of AWB and getting him in, cause at the moment we are like a squad with only one RB anyway 
He was selected a few months back but then got injured before the international break. Now hes in the preliminary squad and rightfully so. Van Gaal would be stupid not to select him.
This is one of the most frusrating highlight vids I have ever seen, half of the scenes are goals, why are they always cut off right before the ball goes in?
My opinion on Frimpong, since I watch every game of him: If he would play for a better team and had more international exposure, he would be getting shouts for being one of the top 5 RB's in the world this season. His speed + acceleration is incredible, every game he has 2 or 3 dribblings where you ask yourself how the feck has he gotten past those defenders. Obviously has his strenghts offensively and has been even used as a winger this season occasionally. But some claims in this thread that hes bad defensively are simply not true. Probably better in a back 5 in general but you can play him in a 4 without a headache. Positioning is decent, recovery speed is incredible.
He is destined for great things, I am sure about that. Doubt we sell him in January but might next summer if we miss out on European football.
Makes sense, and I'm of the opinion that in modern football you don't need your fullbacks to be Maldini defensively if you have a good defensive structure around them (see TAA). So I'd much rather take the guy who's dynamite going forward even if he might get beaten 1v1 occasionallyThis is one of the most frusrating highlight vids I have ever seen, half of the scenes are goals, why are they always cut off right before the ball goes in?
My opinion on Frimpong, since I watch every game of him: If he would play for a better team and had more international exposure, he would be getting shouts for being one of the top 5 RB's in the world this season. His speed + acceleration is incredible, every game he has 2 or 3 dribblings where you ask yourself how the feck has he gotten past those defenders. Obviously has his strenghts offensively and has been even used as a winger this season occasionally. But some claims in this thread that hes bad defensively are simply not true. Probably better in a back 5 in general but you can play him in a 4 without a headache. Positioning is decent, recovery speed is incredible.
He is destined for great things, I am sure about that. Doubt we sell him in January but might next summer if we miss out on European football.
Having this guy basically get to run the flank while Antony cuts inside is fecking ideal
Just need to find a third guy to do the defending stuff, then.
Martinez and Casemiro do double the work anyway
Team defensive structure > individuals
It was a weakness, but with Erik I really don't think it will be moving forward.
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Yes please
Unless we bring back Laird, this is a priority move.
No please, very susceptible to defensive mistakes. Great going forward though but don't think he's ready for a big team yet.
Point taken. But he is so skilful going forward. Somewhat like Evra.
Wish van Gaal would have played him today. Very curious about seeing him play. Supposed to be very good going forward and extremely quick. Dumfries hasnt been great in the WC either.
Dont mind that he could make a defensive mistake. So can Trent and Liverpool did okay with him. A mistake and learning from it is fine too when you have Casemiro, Martinez and Varane helping you with defending. If he is as good as reported (going forward) than him and Dalot would be a two good options for RB.
Dont mind that he could make a defensive mistake. So can Trent and Liverpool did okay with him. A mistake and learning from it is fine too when you have Casemiro, Martinez and Varane helping you with defending. If he is as good as reported (going forward) than him and Dalot would be a two good options for RB.
Great going forward but weak defensively would be absolutely fine in a 21 year old fullback. Much rather that than the other way around. "Great going forward" is the less coachable part.
Spot on, Dalots' defensive awareness improvement is testament to that.
This kid has electric pace and is confident in the final third. Him overlapping at high pace with Antony threatening cutting in could be a really exciting partnership.
Only downside really is that is basically goodbye to Laird who seems to of settled well into senior football and could of been a decent homegrown deputy.
I don’t see us going for a right back seeing as Laird has apparently (I’ve only read/heard rather than seen) been very good on loan so would be a perfect deputy and then eventually rival for Dalot at right back, we’ll want to spend big on a striker and another midfielder in the summer whilst we’ll need a back up centre back with at least 3 centre backs leaving in the summer.
Shaw, Malacia, Frimpong and Dalot would be a superb set of fullbacks to be working with.
Not personal to poster but this post illustrates a POV I just don’t get. For years we gripeabout Valencia and Young at RB - why do we have converted wingers in defense, we need a proper fullback etc…. So we go and buy a very good defensive fullback (granted his attacking needs work) and suddenly now defenders don’t need to defend they should be joining the attack!Celtic pal of mine says he is tremendously fast with decent end product but would need work defensively. I'd be up for getting rid of AWB and getting him in, cause at the moment we are like a squad with only one RB anyway
Colour me confused.
Irwin, the Nevs, and the da Silvas all bombed on in support and whipped crosses in, but first and foremost they were defenders.
We mock Trent cos he can’t defend but everyone of us would have him in our team. I don’t get it.
He isn't really though. He relishes the challenge of a one v one battle, but isn't a great defender outside of that.
I wouldn’t have TAA in our team over Dalot
Seems a no brainer at that price and his age and potential. Gives him time to learn and adapt with Dalot being the starter.
TAA works for Liverpool because they cover him with midfield runners. Now their midfield legs are tiring it’s no surprise that his form dipped. Don’t think he would be the right fit for us
I actually think this signing could end up seeing Sancho return to the right. He looked as good as he did at Dortmund due to Hakimi who had some similar traits and style as a RB to Frimpong.
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Thing is ETH has had a look at him already and preferred to let him get loan game time and go into this season with just Dalot and two injured fullbacks in Brandon Williams and AWB, maybe he just didn't fancy him enough.
Frimpong is dutch and came from city academy so returning here to manchester for £20-30mish that seems to be the going rate whilst selling off Laird for £5-10M wouldn't suprise me atall.
I'd honestly be in favour of this from what i've seen from frimpong aswell because Laird has good quality but he has been a bit injury prone and he is nowhere near as quick.
Good going forward a but suspect in defence. Dalot is a better player overall. Rather we just brought back Laird and used the money for a striker.
Seems to be a common myth in football nowadays that every fullback who is known for their offensive contributions is automatically "suspect" in defense. Frimpong isnt prime Maldini but he can defend well, I assure you that.
Nah I think you obviously want a player like Laird to go on loan and get minutes at that level. Don’t think that has any baring on things. It was the right thing to do.
Same with Hannibal, Fernandez and Amad
I liked Valencia at right back but I take your point. Conversely, I want rid of AWB because it is blatantly obvious he isn't good enough going forward and that's what we need to help build the attacks. I think we are stronger in midfield these days so we have more cover allowing the full backs to bomb on, so would want to see a more attacking full back signed.
Trent I wouldn't have because I like Dalot and he has performed really well this season / and I think there are far more defensive deficiencies to Trent than most other options we would go for. That lad cannot defend full stop.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...-news/man-united-news-transfer-loans-25618979
Luckhurst saying we are considering recalling a loan player - can only imagine its Laird as his manager has just gone to rangers and AWB looks on his way out. Maybe second chance or stop-gap solution to push opening the chequebook for Frimpong to the summer.
It is just incredibly lazy, and typical redcafe. To see how lazy posters are, just look at the Martinez transfer thread.
Would be happy with him / Gusto / Vanderson as competition for Dalot
I was sure, since we were using our regular communication with Bayer to discuss Frimpong and RB cover was Jan priority, that he would be the move.
But now Inter, with their financial issues, are practically begging us to buy Dumfries, and that might tie into Lukaku negotiations.
So who knows.
But now Inter, with their financial issues, are practically begging us to buy Dumfries, and that might tie into Lukaku negotiations.
So who knows.
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