"Bellendgranos" or something equally shit.Day 18: Croatia vs Brazil | Netherlands vs Argentina (QF 1&2)
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"Bellendgranos" or something equally shit.It's incredible how scared all teams get when extra time begins. The Netherlands had all the momentum, Argentina were rattled, and rather than seizing on the momentum they preferred to take their chances in a lottery shootout.
There's really no point in extra time anymore with the way teams approach it. Just go straight to penalties and save everyone some time.
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At least they were trying to play the football on the floor, you have some Messi magic and occasionally someone else, with the Dutch, they honestly had nothing - their forward players were nothing special and their tactics? Oof! As I said earlier - because Messi refused to go and do it on a rainy night at Stoke, LVG brought Stoke to the world cup. The Dutch deserved nothing, would have been a travesty if they won
Nah it’s a fact that most teams going first win
correct decision, but even I could tell where he was going to put it
If you can't answer the question then that speaks volumes.
But as you are sausage.
No disrespect to Croatia, they’re excellent, but I would have loved to have seen a Brazil vs. Argentina semi. What a dream fixture that could have been.
I’m amazed there wasn’t a sending off in that game.
hope Argentina go all the way and win it
hope Argentina go all the way and win it
Fans say this but then they scream at their team to go first and scream at them when they don't. I remember fans on here angry when Bruno Fernandes chose to go second in the Villareal pens in the EL?
He really is a tit.
Almost would have prefered us to just have lost 2-0. I was so sure we would beat them in extra time after that come back 
Probably remembered Cryuff is turning in his grave watching this football and then stopped it.
Something with Maguire's head, a helmet and Falklands
This is another nonsensical narrative. Messi is not carrying a hapless Argentina team. They are quite rounded and decently balanced team. Of course not everyone is Messi level, but the team is pretty good and rightly called potential winners before the WC itself.
Same. Handbags would be incredible
Exactly, both their missed pens were really well hit
Croatia or Argentina will be a tough tough match for Portugal, England or France (maybe even Morocco). England and France have better squads but Croatia has the better midfield and Argentina has Messi.
Agree. Give me back the Golden Goal or scrap the extra time. No one goes for it anymore.
My dude Lisandro crying
what a legend
what a legend
I don't know why anybody would choose to go 2nd in a pen shootout. Going 1st is a big advantage. If you score, you're putting way more pressure on the opposition to keep the game level. VVD did the right thing. He just came up against a keeper that is really good at saving pens.
Yep.
Can you imagine the pressure when you're going second knowing you need to score or it's over? At least if you go first you know there's still a chance your keeper saves you.
Yes I wish Portugal won't win the WC, I cannot stand another Piers Morgan interview with 'that guy' taking all the credit while he actually does nothing all tournament.
Morocco knocking Portugal out is the dream
.....and his pen was shite!
No they aren't.
They've lost against Saudi Arabia, didn't really impress in the group stage and Australia aren't exactly world beaters. They have been subpar in this tournament and certainly not a patch on the true contenders who are on the other side of the table. Take Messi out of the equation and they're nothing special.
We'll see how they fare against Croatia.
I tend to agree. However the first penalty taker seems to be at a disadvantage in this tournament due to the referees keeping the first taker waiting an abnormally long time while they speak to the goalkeepers. It’s a very long time to stand there when you’re already nervous.
Netherlands under van Gaal were just like we expected - tough to beat and capable of going far. But it's fair that they got knocked out in quarters, had only 2 shots on target and those 2 were goals, before that they had only 1 shot in total, really too pragmatic.
Wasn't the best, but the save was still very good.
It was the correct decision from VvD. Always go first and have your best taker shoot it.
Happy for the Butcher
So glad Argentina got that done in the end because the Dutch didn’t deserve it. Don’t know why they didn’t keep the route one tactics in ET.
If England can’t do it I really hope they can for Messi.
If England can’t do it I really hope they can for Messi.
Just look at their team…it’s horrific. They did well.
There is this idea that the only thing that will be remembered in the future are the numbers and trophies, etc... Football fans like to say things like "but only that win or that trophy will be remembered in years to come". That's just not true when you look at the history of the game. Cruyff and his Dutch team are celebrated more than many winners. Cruyff is viewed by most higher than Gerd Müller who won the WC. I am not implying here that Ronaldo is more like Müller. I am saying it's only the media that like to drum up these big occasions and decisive and how they will dictate the legacy of someone and how this next trophy or win will be the decider. People remember the memories and mostly the feelings really. Maradona's trophy cabinet is not the best but the moments he gave to people just stick for many years, they elevate him to his god status. It will be the same with Messi, the amount of times he leaves people speechless in a way that no number or "fact" can describe. Of course if he never won anything, that would be different. But with his record, not one win or trophy or record can dictate his legacy or the legacy of anyone. It is only in this age of facts and numbers and statistics that people think it will.
Yes absaloutely. They play very simple yet good football and no BS about them.
Meh, don't think he's being nonsensical, Messi has been by far their best player. The number of chances he's generated up top is crazy; he should've had 3 assists for L Martinez alone against Australia. If they win the tournament it's thanks to him imo. Aside from the Poland game he's been the reason why they've scored the first goal in every match, breaking the deadlock in which beforehand they always seem to look so scared of generating anything.
Argentina was way better than Netherlands in extra time, created four clear chances. Netherlands zero.
Fixed. I expected them to beat Argentina though if Messi wasn't able to pull out something.
He's done it again!
Argentina and their antics. Cant stand them.
Usual suspects.. nothing surprising
Really surprised Holland went back to a passing game in extra time. Argentina didn’t seem to know how to cope with the long balls, and with the momentum behind them, I thought Holland would apply the pressure through more of the same.