Did Donald Trump write that?
City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with numerous FFP breaches
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We haven’t violated FFP.
And on City… the big test will be whether this actually leads to anything, and, also, legitimate concerns about the fairness and motivations of any investigations.
If they did it, is it going to get overturned and shifted into some sort of 20m euro fine instead again?
And the obvious allowances of bias to anything that protects the two or three traditional powers on the league always astonished me. Why would an Arsenal member be allowed on the commission at all?
Finally, are they going to address the fact that FFP, at its core, violates fair, competitive business practices?
You can spend money … but only if you already have money, and a certain amount of fans already… and so on. I’m trying to imagine what this would look like in America if, say, the Dallas Cowboys were allowed a larger salary cap than other teams due to their massive fanbase.
It’s bad enough that the Ravens backup WB almost made the pro bowl simply due to fan voting. To have stuff like that affect actual team construction is weird.
That’s not “fair”. It is simply a crooked way of trying to ensure that only particular teams stay at the top by design.
Either allow people who purchase a business to compete fairly by investing however much money they are willing to risk… or have an actual “fair” cap where all teams are limited to the same amount.
FFP, as it’s structured, would violate American law, and may, if tested, violate certain international laws related to fair business practices.
You're right about it costing 6.5m GBP, but that's not the point here. The point is conflict of interest - the FA bars it in England (Pere could not have purchased an English club with City group), but Spain does not as highlighted in that article. The question isn't whether Pere Guardiola could afford it, the question is how Pere Guardiola, an ex-lower league footballer turned agent, with no previous club-owning experience or expertise, was mysteriously selected as a suitable equal co-owner of City group's new feeder club just a year into his brother having signed on as City's manager?
You might well be right, I definitely don’t claim any personal knowledge; I just struggle to see how you could come to that (or indeed any) conclusion and yet still not be able to specify which specific charges you think they’ll be found guilty on. Feels like a hopeful stab in the dark otherwise. Still, we shall see.
I feel you. This has engorged me more than viagra.
He's avoiding the thread thus far. Poor guy(?).
Not enough random capitalization.
I’m not claiming any personal knowledge, just discussing what we know and base my opinion on that. A number of legal experts have been discussing it online and on Sky Sports and seem to be of similar thinking.
That said we shall see.
League 2 should be the only destination for them if proven guilty.
I just hope the league have the balls to give them both barrels.
I just hope the league have the balls to give them both barrels.
Alright. But then what are City being investigated for in the years 2009-2011, do you know?
Jesus Christ
Watch them get away with this as well... Points deduction should definitely not be enough, unless they strip so many they're forced to relegate.after NY stock exchange closes
I’d go further, Ole is the biggest victim in all of this. UEFA had them bang to rights for these very same crimes a season before he came second and they squirmed their way out out v a weak UEFA / CAS. Now they’re getting done for those very same fecking crimes.
City should have had a points deduction for that season and banned from Europe which would have seen Pep walk and a player exodus. Instead they win the league and got to a CL final.
Ole may not be a top manager but that doesn’t make him finishing second to cheats any less valid than others and Klopp.
This thread has nothing to do with Chelsea or the NFL or capitalism, FFS.
Please go away.
Apologies if it's already been said but I've been at work and I'm only just catching up on all of this and can't get through 27 pages!
As well as the repercussions for City it could also have a massive impact on who buys us! Certain States might think twice now knowing they won't be able to plunder money into the club as City have "allegedly" done.
As well as the repercussions for City it could also have a massive impact on who buys us! Certain States might think twice now knowing they won't be able to plunder money into the club as City have "allegedly" done.
Another positive from today's news.
If the charges stick it might speeden the process of installing an independent regulator, which in turn might help us get Sir Jim in over some genocidal arab dictators or yank investment firms. 
It's disheartening that my first thought is the best lawyers in the world will be on this for City and nothing will be done if the accusations are upheld by the "independent" body.
Seems like you are worried about Chelsea considering your attempts to soften Citeh's wrong doings.
League 2 might not want them! They could potentially take the place if a little club that had fairly won promotion.
Better to raze the Empty had and sow it with salt.
Rightfully so
Anyone who thinks an example will be made of City is deluded.
Weak spined corporates will more likely impose an absolutely ludicrous punishment such as a £150,000 fine.
Expect no justice.
Weak spined corporates will more likely impose an absolutely ludicrous punishment such as a £150,000 fine.
Expect no justice.
Of course he is. When the bodies look at 1.5b being wiped off and how unfair it is to FFP we’ll see a few asses twitch
This is the funniest thing I've read all year.
How? We were so comfortable in second that year it was ridiculous. The only club above us was the club that got away with the crimes they were found to have done and are the crimes that will kill the club 5 years later.
Where am I wrong?
Everywhere.
Explain.
Its a competition,
The rules are agreed and signed up to.
If you want a free for all leave the league and start your own.
Or get the rules changed but don't agree, then cheat, then complain about it.
You’re holding on too tight.
So no explanation. Thanks .
Well it just shows how football is a hypocritical business. 100 charges dont happen over night and while I would like a points deduction if they are limited to true fair play it will criple them in the long run. Its not gonna happen though
By your logic, bigger "victim" would be Jose. He was also 2nd. And with title in hand, he wouldn't implode like he did in 3rd season. So no Ole in United. No?
Disgraceful club and a joke they've been allowed to do that for a long time
We won't see them stripped of any titles I would think. That would be reserved for match-fixing and blatant cheating.
The recent points deduction of Juventus is probably a good benchmark for what we can expect. Probably a chunky points deduction and a hefty fine. Maybe a transfer ban too?
The recent points deduction of Juventus is probably a good benchmark for what we can expect. Probably a chunky points deduction and a hefty fine. Maybe a transfer ban too?
Ole bad manager. L O L.
Anyway, concerning ourselves, Ole and Jose would both feel cheated.
Eth said just 6 months ago how every era must end. Guy jinxed Pool AND City.
I think we can all agree that the punishments that would be appropriate-relegation, multiple years of bans of transfers/european competition-will never happen. So I hope that at the very least they are proven guilty and we can officially recognize that which every football fan has known for a decade-they are a bunch of cheating cnuts.
I think that too. 20-30 points deducted and transfer ban for season or two.
Which still would be great.
Shame that we must wait for months now (eelven maybe over a year) to see what happens.