Love the end and knockout blow that they were NEVER exonerated. Time bar and limitation on evidence and winning on merit are two totally different things. No CAS here you fecking plastic wankers.Tweet
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Love the end and knockout blow that they were NEVER exonerated. Time bar and limitation on evidence and winning on merit are two totally different things. No CAS here you fecking plastic wankers.Tweet
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Aguero moment is overrated. We knew we lost the league way before the final game as it was a very winnable fixture for City.Cheats. Every time the Aguero goal and celebration is shown that should be the word in mind. The big crime is that it wasn't just clamped down earlier.
True fans will support their team/club whatever circumstances they find themselves IMOSorry, not my mother tongue, but that was shit mistake I agree
This is true. And considering we have no idea what state the club will be in after all this it is impossible to answer
Nor should you but this should be what City fans see as a chance to get the club back, don't get me wrong it was fun winding people up on here for the past 8 years or whatever. But this is the time for real change, hopefully then the government don't swallow what the PL are doing by offering City up to avoid a regulator and others follow suit.Upset and angry, but I probably will never be able to walk away no. Hard to predict my mental state of mind if it happens though.
I mean I’d laugh but we have an “ABU” threadMost of them are going with the "Cartel" and "Big 4" schtick, it's desperate clutching at straws.
I have never understood this argument - consider an alternative reality in which there were no FFP rules...how is it BETTER for smaller clubs/mid-sized clubs if teams like Newcastle and Manchester City can spend with no restrictions?That’s not quite true. The big clubs influenced FFP in order to make it impossible for them to be matched financially. By all means have a go at City but let’s be honest about the big clubs motives here.
Absolutely, as long as we still have a clubTrue fans will support their team/club whatever circumstances they find themselves IMO
Any reasonable fan somewhat capable of critical thinking should be welcoming of the investigation, as it might be the only chance they have at getting rid of their owners. This might be the one time they have a genuine chance at ending the abuse of their club as a vehicle for sportswashing.True fans will support their team/club whatever circumstances they find themselves IMO
That's nice.don't get me wrong it was fun winding people up on here for the past 8 years or whatever
It’s not, and I’m not trying to say it is! I’m saying FFP loaded the dice in favour of the already-big clubs. The one avenue that was open to a smaller/medium club (getting external investment) was closed, leading to the same few clubs being top of the tree in perpetuity.I have never understood this argument - consider an alternative reality in which there were no FFP rules...how is it BETTER for smaller clubs/mid-sized clubs if teams like Newcastle and Manchester City can spend with no restrictions?
It surely also is a opportunity to clear the clubs name as well, no?Any reasonable fan somewhat capable of critical thinking should be welcoming of the investigation, as it might be the only chance they have at getting rid of their owners. This might be the one time they have a genuine chance at ending the abuse of their club as a vehicle for sportswashing.
Basically, there was a time limit on the investigation and City's lawyers managed to stall and delay and obstruct for long enough that the case had to be dismissed due to the statute of limitations. City of course proclaimed themselves exhonerated, but reality is that they were proven guilty but got off on a technicality after obstructing the investigation for so long that it had to be dropped. It was some real Trump shit.They essentially bribed their way out of the UEFA ruling too iirc. Or something in the ruling meant they got off free when really they shouldn't have.
They could still win it this year and I don’t think there would be any way it could be taken away from them.15 years of corruption and they didnt win the Champions League. fecking amazing really.
But that would happen without FFP? And it’s not even true, the top of the league has been fluid for a long time. It’s just the cheaters who are the constant champions ironicallyIt’s not, and I’m not trying to say it is! I’m saying FFP loaded the dice in favour of the already-big clubs. The one avenue that was open to a smaller/medium club (getting external investment) was closed, leading to the same few clubs being top of the tree in perpetuity.
Do you genuinely believe Manchester United are part of the reason FFP was introduced, like some kind of conspiracy?But there were ways to deal with that didn’t involve banning situations like City and Chelsea. It’s so clearly disingenuous to frame this as somehow the only way to stop small clubs going bust. I’m amazed you think Man Utd did anything other than try to guarantee their position at the top of the tree.
That's exactly why I couldn't get on board with the ESL outrage despite not wanting it. We're in two in all but name.I can't help but wonder if you guys ever think how clubs outside the EPL look at all of this? Sure, demote and fine City but at the same time clubs from smaller leagues wonder why this all of a sudden is unfair while for years championship clubs got 200 million for just being promoted to the EPL. The Champion's league hasn't been an actual league of champions because the EPL and 3 other leagues get four tickets while the champions of other leagues sometimes have to play three play off rounds. It's been about money way too long. Maybe instead of going after City we should go after UEFA and FIFA even more.
Well if it gets to that then maybe you'll need to set up FC City to compete with FC UnitedAbsolutely, as long as we still have a club
I think they helped shape the rules, yes.Do you genuinely believe Manchester United are part of the reason FFP was introduced, like some kind of conspiracy?
Clear the name of what exactly?It surely also is a opportunity to clear the clubs name as well, no?
Good job he’s a clown. How the feck anyone has any idea what punishment is on the table here is madness.Kaveh from Sky is saying from the sense he's getting a small points deduction seems most likely if found guilty. Madness.
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They could also all shit their pants and rocket to the moon. Wouldnt change the last 15 years of fraud leading to not even winning 3 in a row and allowing Leicester, Chelsea, Man United and Liverpool to win the league on their watch.They could still win it this year and I don’t think there would be any way it could be taken away from them.
Arsenal will probably still find away to mess it all upKaveh from Sky is saying from the sense he's getting a small points deduction seems most likely if found guilty. Madness.
It’s teams like Bayern and recently Juventus; old money clubs.But that would happen without FFP? And it’s not even true, the top of the league has been fluid for a long time. It’s just the cheaters who are the constant champions ironically
I remember reading a piece from Martin Samuel that it meant no more dreamers like Jack Walker but hatchet jobs like what The Venkys did to the same club was/is still perfectly possible.It’s not, and I’m not trying to say it is! I’m saying FFP loaded the dice in favour of the already-big clubs. The one avenue that was open to a smaller/medium club (getting external investment) was closed, leading to the same few clubs being top of the tree in perpetuity.
Doubtful in my opinion. All depends on how many of the charges they are found guilty of and the particulars.Kaveh from Sky is saying from the sense he's getting a small points deduction seems most likely if found guilty. Madness.
Cause its not, but Uniteds wasn't achieved through dodgy books.It’s teams like Bayern and recently Juventus; old money clubs.
And I don’t think City’s current dominance is any worse than Utd’s was in the 1990s/2000s
Bye, troll.It’s teams like Bayern and recently Juventus; old money clubs.
And I don’t think City’s current dominance is any worse than Utd’s was in the 1990s/2000s
2 points deducted this season, having seen them finish 3 points off 1st and 5 points clear of 3rd.Kaveh from Sky is saying from the sense he's getting a small points deduction seems most likely if found guilty. Madness.
You're probably one of those people who can't understand why the Glazers aren't seen as superb owners aren't you.It’s teams like Bayern and recently Juventus; old money clubs.
And I don’t think City’s current dominance is any worse than Utd’s was in the 1990s/2000s