Don't Pannick, Mr Mainwaring! They don't like it up 'em!
City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with numerous FFP breaches
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If City did get relegated then whats the chances of signing haaland like ronaldo from barca to madrid? Its much more likely he replaced benzema but would only have spent 6 months in the pl.
Ronaldo went from Barca to Madrid?
Think he meant Figo.
Ah, makes sense
City will be relegated for sure, probably fined also. The commission is a farce... Even Pannick won't get them off.
https://www.skysports.com/amp/footb...d-out-if-guilty-of-alleged-financial-breaches
If they're accepted in to the EFL, I guess they'll bounce back up pretty quickly though.
Similar to the Serie A clubs in 2006 Calciopoli.
https://www.skysports.com/amp/footb...d-out-if-guilty-of-alleged-financial-breaches
If they're accepted in to the EFL, I guess they'll bounce back up pretty quickly though.
Similar to the Serie A clubs in 2006 Calciopoli.
oh yeah him.
The jokes just write themselves at this point
Think we'll get fourth place now for sure.
Won't this be settled in about 4 or 5 years?
I think deep down I know they’ll get off lightly. This is the last chance at taking them down and I don’t think I trust the integrity of footballing legislatures at all.
They will forever be known as corrupt by all that still care about this sort of stuff. The Mancini stuff, the time barred CAS fiasco and claiming more revenue than us and Real fecking Madrid proves just how blatant they are.
The media will soon forget and we’ll be back to them purring over their football in no time. Sky are fecking hypocrites in that regard. As long as they get a piece of the pie that comes out of the corruption they’re good.
They will forever be known as corrupt by all that still care about this sort of stuff. The Mancini stuff, the time barred CAS fiasco and claiming more revenue than us and Real fecking Madrid proves just how blatant they are.
The media will soon forget and we’ll be back to them purring over their football in no time. Sky are fecking hypocrites in that regard. As long as they get a piece of the pie that comes out of the corruption they’re good.
This is independent of all of the outside deals they potentially have with players. e.g., when PSG were wooing Messi, they promised him a fashion label in Qatar and ownership interest in some other businesses after he retires AFAIK.
Obviously Messi is a special case, but I expect early City (before they were a legitimate big side) had to do some under the table deals with players.
Summer I imagine
Ultimately I think they'll weasel their way into a points deduction this season and symbolic fine that sounds like a lot but is actually a drop in the bucket to them. In other words, they'll have to forgo the title race this season and that'll be the end of it.
This is true.
I’d hope for a lot more but can totally agree with your post. There’s talk that this will drag on for years though so wouldn’t put it past them to win it again this year. Doesn’t seem fair to me that it should though, ultimately it’s even more seasons playing alongside them fraudulently winning.
Looking at that season Juve had to sell Zlatan, Zambrotta, Viera, Emerson, Cannavaro and Thuram.
The bulk of their squad was made up of Italian homegrown players bar Trezeguet and Nedved.
Apply that to City and think they are struggling…
Especially when you consider they have limited revenue to pay for players.
Juve are a historic club
Yeah that's really gonna deter them
It doesn’t work like that. If you actively and with full knowledge evaded tax for year you can’t just pay it back now and all will be forgotten.
Bit of irony that 4th could be awarded to another sport washing club if they narrowly miss out.
no one is really talking about the impact this has had on a fan like me. i walked away from united after many happy years supporting them, to support city as they started winning things and we stopped. now i’m left in limbo. do i return to united now we’re on the up? if i leave city and then find out they’re not really punished and are still successful and i have to move back, will fans still accept me as one of them? i’m the real victim in all of this.
I tend to agree, I just realy hope the Premier league by doing this, stick to it, and implement a real punishment, I'd agree with what I've read taking titles off them etc would be pointless OK nice mind but a Premier league ban is the Answer, and hopefully the EFL do not allow them in, then that's the biggest punishment for the owners. See where they go from there.
Officially in the books he'll be paid £1000 per hour and the rest will be in a brown paper bag in the lost property office at Manchester Piccadilly Station.
I'm pretty sure you can still get external investment into the club. You can throw as much money as you want on stadiums / training facilities / youth programs. I think its just limited to the first team transfers and wages basically.
I kind of think City built themselves in part by gutting Arsenal too. It doesn't really feel like one more team competing so much as a different one.
I know
Another point is that there is a (to me anyway) crucial difference between the clubs and the economical or legal owners or administrators of clubs. Legally, you could argue that Man Utd are the Glazer family’s private thing and it’s nobody’s business but theirs wether the club exists or disappears. But I don’t agree that that idea of ‘ownership’ covers what football clubs are or are about. Clubs belong as much to a community, to a historical sort of tribe, to the people caring for it in small and big ways, and FFP really protects a club against a passing owner or administrator bankrupting and demolishing that club for ever. And not only that, it protects the competions from being such that the owners running a, say, Leeds, Derby or Scunthorpe in the red, pressures the owners of twenty other clubs each to run their clubs in the red to avoid relegation, in a race where multiple clubs would face administration or obliteration. This is the important threat, not the threat to Man Utd or Arsenal to lose out on trophies.
I think there are a couple of things that needs to be factored in here. One is that Football (not capitalist business based on footbal) is a closed circuit competition where the idea of growth for the sport is not really necessary for the sport (only for the business). If no player ever were to surpass Messi, Maradona or Pele, it would not necessarily be a problem for the sport of football. If revenues shrunk, the business would suffer, but not necessarily the football as a competition, as a culture, as a way of expressing oneself or getting together. So the startups-contributing-to-progress argument doesn’t really apply here.
Another point is that there is a (to me anyway) crucial difference between the clubs and the economical or legal owners or administrators of clubs. Legally, you could argue that Man Utd are the Glazer family’s private thing and it’s nobody’s business but theirs wether the club exists or disappears. But I don’t agree that that idea of ‘ownership’ covers what football clubs are or are about. Clubs belong as much to a community, to a historical sort of tribe, to the people caring for it in small and big ways, and FFP really protects a club against a passing owner or administrator bankrupting and demolishing that club for ever. And not only that, it protects the competions from being such that the owners running a, say, Leeds, Derby or Scunthorpe in the red, pressures the owners of twenty other clubs each to run their clubs in the red to avoid relegation, in a race where multiple clubs would face administration or obliteration. This is the important threat, not the threat to Man Utd or Arsenal to lose out on trophies.
Propagandists
Oh yeah there was talk on The Sun site of getting the Supreme Court involved as well
I finally made it through 56 pages.
I think a lot of posts predicting relegation/title strips/death penalty sanctions are wishful thinking. Understandable but still. Not considering the fact that City will argue their case and present evidence. If this has the potential of dragging out then I see the PL settling and moving on.
I think a lot of posts predicting relegation/title strips/death penalty sanctions are wishful thinking. Understandable but still. Not considering the fact that City will argue their case and present evidence. If this has the potential of dragging out then I see the PL settling and moving on.
If the concern is truly of protecting clubs from being run into bankruptcy (hint: it's not), it's real simple to require funds to be placed in escrow, so that in case of financial issues by the owner, the club is protected and can still fulfill it's obligations to players and staff and other entities without putting club assets on the market... but otherwise allow for external investment that helps clubs overcome inbuilt advantages enjoyed by those at the top of the pyramid. No reason why external investment along with a cap on spending couldn't be introduced.
Brilliant
)Why? City bring no attention to the PL. Only reason they won't be kicked out if Mansour kicks some cash to the "right" figures.
Seems accurate. It'll be a case of this initial excitement for a while. Then it'll be silence for some time with people wondering when it'll be sorted. Then a long time will pass and by the time the actual result/punishment is dished out and is essentially a large fine, people won't be as angry/shocked because it'll be far less fresh in the memory and City will have kept going as normal in the meantime.
Really?
The champions of the most watched league in the world bring no attention to said league?
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That's what worries me. They'll get a "naughty naughty" a large fine (that'll go straight to the FA pockets) and maybe a token points deduction of 9 points or a transfer ban for a season.
I mean with 100 cases you'd hope they'd throw the book and the rest of the library at them but I just can't trust high up officials in football.
The likes of Sinclair and the other City puppets make me Irate
I'd love to see what he's saying now.