I'm not convinced he is 3rd choice though. If Martinez is out I think ETH prefers Shaw at CB and in my opinion Lindelof should be ahead of Maguire too.
Deserved?
Hopefully it won't happened. We all know that two times more is all we need.
Exactly this
Exactly. Some fecking weird people on here who just love to hate on someone. He’s the club captain so would have lifted the trophy in any case. Always has to be one player on here who seems to draw the haters.
He is fifth choice though. Lindelof is the main deputy of Varane, and Shaw plays LCB when Martinez is not available.
You speak with such certainty...
I can't believe I have to explain this but I think we should be happy for him and all the other United players when we win a trophy. And yes you are the one slagging him off, I'd call what you're doing intellectually dishonest but that's probably too nice of a way to describe it.
Why should any player receive any abuse? Can't fans be decent human being who SUPPORT the club and the players? Is that so difficult?
Deserved in the sense that when he plays good (as rare as that is) he gets praised. When he plays bad (as often as that is), he gets criticism. Same as any other player in the world. Hell, even our best players like Bruno and Rashford have gotten their fair share of criticism over the years. It's part of the game. There's nothing really special about how Maguire is treated. If you guys are such humanitarians, why don't you go over the Glazer thread and start defending poor ol' Avi from the terribly evil United fans, as well? Or he doesn't have that special privilege?
It's quite clear heh, he's here heh, fecking good forum
He is crucified constantly on social media. Fair play if you stay off it but he has been the whipping boy of our club for at least a year, by our own fans and opposition fans.
I said nothing like that, though. Buzz basically said that the criticism towards Maguire has been unfair and I thought differently. Then he had the gall to call those criticizing Maguire over the years as 'fake' fans and then I asked him what makes him a 'real' fan and that's how the conversation snowballed. I never said I wasn't happy about Maguire lifting his trophy. I am. But to pretend he's been good for United and hasn't deserved his fair share of criticism as a player is pure lunacy.
Deserved given his performances. Not to mention the tone deaf posts and celebrations he's made over the years like that World Cup one.
If you truly think that then you've clearly had your head stuck in sand for a while.
Absolutely.
The fact that you said something exactly like that is the reason I replied to you in the first place, then you did the same thing to me.
No, there is not really anything special about how Maguire has been treated. Fred and McTominay have also got their fair share of abuse, sometimes even more than Harry. Look at Fred now - people are loving him. He found his place in the team and he's having fun. You're acting like people have it in on Maguire when the reality is he's just not good enough for United and that's it. There's nothing really all that deep to it.
What part of what I said was wrong? I can't praise shit performances. 'Good one Harry, for giving that penalty.'. Is that what we, as United fans, are supposed to do? I never said anything about him lifting the trophy or him being undeserving of lifting it. The whole argument was about how Maguire has gotten slack for his PAST performances
if he wants to play football, he has to leave
Exactly this
