Anthony Taylor

[SER19]

Comprehensive list for those interested. 2 wins in last 10, has never awarded an opponent a red card in 38 showings, and recent showings include yesterdays farce, the Villa freekick which Pgmol apologised for, the Middlesbrough handball last season (Worst decision in years), Penalty to chelsea at stamford bridge under carrick last season, and the Martial red card early on versus Spurs in the 6-1 loss at home.

I dont think it can be read and some sort of bias not at least be looked into. He's even awarded united double the number of yellows he gives opposition.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ant...n/1/land_id/0/heim_gast//verein_id/985/plus/1

 

[Kostov]

I hate this twat. The second they showed that VAR will review this I knew it's game over with this twat. Baffling red and then proceeds to make some point and not award two blatant penalties.

 

[Shinjch]

If Taylor and co were giving all of these decisions for United instead of against then you would see it on Sky sports news all day, and all over the media. Very different when United are getting done over by bad refereeing though.

 

[cyril C]

Really don't understand why anyone should be blaming the ref, any ref. Unless you think that tackle is legitimate? Scholes had got away with this type of tackle for seasons, but no more under VAR. Handball or not is irrelevant, as our game should have never relied on any favours from the ref system. Sometimes lucky as with the City game, sometimes unlucky.

 

[cyberman]

Really don't understand why anyone should be blaming the ref, any ref. Unless you think that tackle is legitimate? Scholes had got away with this type of tackle for seasons, but no more under VAR. Handball or not is irrelevant, as our game should have never relied on any favours from the ref system. Sometimes lucky as with the City game, sometimes unlucky.

Any other examples bar the City game?

 

[cyril C]

Any other examples bar the City game?

We do get favoured penalty decision, only the City one was more controversial, and decisive in terms of result.

 

[cyberman]

We do get favoured penalty decision, only the City one was more controversial, and decisive in terms of result.

What penalty decision?

 

[JB7]

Really don't understand why anyone should be blaming the ref, any ref. Unless you think that tackle is legitimate? Scholes had got away with this type of tackle for seasons, but no more under VAR. Handball or not is irrelevant, as our game should have never relied on any favours from the ref system. Sometimes lucky as with the City game, sometimes unlucky.

Yeah agreed, it's ridiculous that we should expect referees to get basic decisions correct that could affect the game.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Really don't understand why anyone should be blaming the ref, any ref. Unless you think that tackle is legitimate? Scholes had got away with this type of tackle for seasons, but no more under VAR. Handball or not is irrelevant, as our game should have never relied on any favours from the ref system. Sometimes lucky as with the City game, sometimes unlucky.

Getting decisions correct is not getting a favour. It is doing your job properly.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

Comprehensive list for those interested. 2 wins in last 10, has never awarded an opponent a red card in 38 showings, and recent showings include yesterdays farce, the Villa freekick which Pgmol apologised for, the Middlesbrough handball last season (Worst decision in years), Penalty to chelsea at stamford bridge under carrick last season, and the Martial red card early on versus Spurs in the 6-1 loss at home.

I dont think it can be read and some sort of bias not at least be looked into. He's even awarded united double the number of yellows he gives opposition.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ant...n/1/land_id/0/heim_gast//verein_id/985/plus/1

Christ. That's quite a list of poor decisions against United.

Must have been bullied by a red growing up

 

[AFC NimbleThumb]

Comprehensive list for those interested. 2 wins in last 10, has never awarded an opponent a red card in 38 showings, and recent showings include yesterdays farce, the Villa freekick which Pgmol apologised for, the Middlesbrough handball last season (Worst decision in years), Penalty to chelsea at stamford bridge under carrick last season, and the Martial red card early on versus Spurs in the 6-1 loss at home.

I dont think it can be read and some sort of bias not at least be looked into. He's even awarded united double the number of yellows he gives opposition.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ant...n/1/land_id/0/heim_gast//verein_id/985/plus/1

Thanks for this.

According to a quick Googling they are:

Southampton (H) - 0-0 draw
Arsenal (A) - 2-3 loss
Aston Villa (A) - 1-3 loss
Nottingham Forest (H) - 3-0 win

I don't remember any specific incidents against Villa and Arsenal that influenced the game, but I think we lost those games for very different reasons.

Thanks.

 

[Tom Cato]

I dont think Anthony Taylor is very good at his job

 

[Mike Smalling]

Comprehensive list for those interested. 2 wins in last 10, has never awarded an opponent a red card in 38 showings, and recent showings include yesterdays farce, the Villa freekick which Pgmol apologised for, the Middlesbrough handball last season (Worst decision in years), Penalty to chelsea at stamford bridge under carrick last season, and the Martial red card early on versus Spurs in the 6-1 loss at home.

I dont think it can be read and some sort of bias not at least be looked into. He's even awarded united double the number of yellows he gives opposition.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ant...n/1/land_id/0/heim_gast//verein_id/985/plus/1

That was so fecking ridiculous. One of those decisions that can still make me mad thinking about it. Similar to our disallowed goal against Spurs away, when Son went down like he was just clobbered by prime Mike Tyson.

 

[Berbasbullet]

Getting decisions correct is not getting a favour. It is doing your job properly.

Tell that to Barca...

 

[Solius]

He moves the wall back way too far which directly results in us conceding against Villa and probably a large reason why we lost that game. PGMOL even apologise to us about it and he's still given one of our most important games of the season in Arsenal away and now this one.

 

[Kammy26]

This guy is from Altrincham which is about 15mins away from Old Trafford. There have been acquisitions from rival fans that he is a United fan, which he has obviously heard/read about, and I think he try’s too hard to show his is not a United fan when reffing our games.

Being from somewhere so close to Old Trafford he should not be reffing our games or city’s games. It’s a disgrace.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

This guy is from Altrincham which is about 15mins away from Old Trafford. There have been acquisitions from rival fans that he is a United fan, which he has obviously heard/read about, and I think he try’s too hard to show his is not a United fan when reffing our games.

Being from somewhere so close to Old Trafford he should not be reffing our games or city’s games. It’s a disgrace.

If he was a United fan he wouldn't get our games anyway.

 

[Berbasbullet]

This guy is from Altrincham which is about 15mins away from Old Trafford. There have been acquisitions from rival fans that he is a United fan, which he has obviously heard/read about, and I think he try’s too hard to show his is not a United fan when reffing our games.

Being from somewhere so close to Old Trafford he should not be reffing our games or city’s games. It’s a disgrace.

Seriously he's that close by? What in earth is he doing reffing united or City games?!?! That is unbelievable.

 

[Yakuza_devils]

The referee never play a day of competitive elite football in their life. EPL is play at such high intensity and speed.

In spilt second, Casemeiro made the tackle but misjudged by maybe 1 inch and the feet bounced off the ball. He got red?

If anything, he got the ball first and it was a perfect tackle. Yes, his feet accidentally bounced off the ball and hit the opponent legs. A yellow card is suffice.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

If he was a United fan he wouldn't get our games anyway.

Someone needs to plant a United scarf in his car boot.

 

[I Am Zlatan]

He moves the wall back way too far which directly results in us conceding against Villa and probably a large reason why we lost that game. PGMOL even apologise to us about it and he's still given one of our most important games of the season in Arsenal away and now this one.

He moved the wall back too far yesterday and the ball ended up clipping the top of the bar..Ridiculous

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Someone needs to plant a United scarf in his car boot.

 

[CM]

Comprehensive list for those interested. 2 wins in last 10, has never awarded an opponent a red card in 38 showings, and recent showings include yesterdays farce, the Villa freekick which Pgmol apologised for, the Middlesbrough handball last season (Worst decision in years), Penalty to chelsea at stamford bridge under carrick last season, and the Martial red card early on versus Spurs in the 6-1 loss at home.

I dont think it can be read and some sort of bias not at least be looked into. He's even awarded united double the number of yellows he gives opposition.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ant...n/1/land_id/0/heim_gast//verein_id/985/plus/1

When you see it laid out like this, it's hard to argue against. Every ref gets some wrong but there are some real shockers in this list.

The Watmore one might be the worst refereeing decision I've ever seen.

 

[ShinjiNinja26]

This scumbag isn’t fit to referee but he’s deemed the best the country has to offer. Just shows you standards of officiating are at rock bottom.

 

[Crimson King]

When you see it laid out like this, it's hard to argue against. Every ref gets some wrong but there are some real shockers in this list.

The Watmore one might be the worst refereeing decision I've ever seen.

I don't think he's on the take or anything ludicrous like that, I just think that Taylor suffers from trying too hard to not appear to favour bigger clubs, more so United, for many of the reasons already discussed in this thread. This then leads him to give a majority of soft or 50/50 calls against us, which in turn have negatively affected the outcome of most of the games he has reffed when United are involved.

He also gives a lot of calls where he hides behind the 'rules' rather than judgement or common sense, so a lot of the decisions feel very frustrating and harsh to us as fans, much like the red yesterday. Sure, it could be a red card, but it was obviously an unlucky bounce off the ball into the Soton player's shin. Hundreds of times this season a yellow card would have sufficed for that (whether it was actually a clear and obvious error and needed VAR to get involved is also an issue, but that discussion probably belongs in the other thread). That's also where the inconsistency comes from; he'll diligently apply every crackpot initiative the PGMOL instigate, especially concerning VAR usage, against us, but not for us, or against our direct rivals when he's officiating their matches.

A referee should be a purely unbiased arbiter, so the very fact he appears to referee games we're involved in differently, whether consciously or unconsciously, discredits his ability to be a referee. These guys make mistakes and bad calls from time to time, but he makes so many against us compared to his other games... it's taking the piss!

 

[Murder on Zidane's Floor]

Why do people keep implying that rolling over the ball is an excuse? “Going over the top of the ball” literally describes what happened, usually involves at least some contact with the football and has always been the sort of challenge that gets players sent off.

Isn't it because you used to deliberately miss the ball by aiming high, going over the top, and snapping someone's leg. Tackling and hitting the ball and your foot bouncing off and clipping a shin isn't the same.

 

[SER19]

When you see it laid out like this, it's hard to argue against. Every ref gets some wrong but there are some real shockers in this list.

The Watmore one might be the worst refereeing decision I've ever seen.

one thing to add here, is that for the big decisions yesterday, marinner is just as culpable.

but if referees are inclined to wave play on, hoping var will pick up any mistake, but the guidelines for var are to intervene less and less, then it follows that there will actually be even more wrong decisions.

 

[crossy1686]

If Taylor and co were giving all of these decisions for United instead of against then you would see it on Sky sports news all day, and all over the media. Very different when United are getting done over by bad refereeing though.

Well Klopp would be talking about it without being asked for sure.

 

[MadMike]

This scumbag isn’t fit to referee but he’s deemed the best the country has to offer. Just shows you standards of officiating are at rock bottom.

You can set any standards you want, but you ain't ever gonna meet them. It's nigh on impossible to attract good referees to the profession.

 

[CM]

I don't think he's on the take or anything ludicrous like that, I just think that Taylor suffers from trying too hard to not appear to favour bigger clubs, more so United, for many of the reasons already discussed in this thread. This then leads him to give a majority of soft or 50/50 calls against us, which in turn have negatively affected the outcome of most of the games he has reffed when United are involved.

He also gives a lot of calls where he hides behind the 'rules' rather than judgement or common sense, so a lot of the decisions feel very frustrating and harsh to us as fans, much like the red yesterday. Sure, it could be a red card, but it was obviously an unlucky bounce off the ball into the Soton player's shin. Hundreds of times this season a yellow card would have sufficed for that (whether it was actually a clear and obvious error and needed VAR to get involved is also an issue, but that discussion probably belongs in the other thread). That's also where the inconsistency comes from; he'll diligently apply every crackpot initiative the PGMOL instigate, especially concerning VAR usage, against us, but not for us, or against our direct rivals when he's officiating their matches.

A referee should be a purely unbiased arbiter, so the very fact he appears to referee games we're involved in differently, whether consciously or unconsciously, discredits his ability to be a referee. These guys make mistakes and bad calls from time to time, but he makes so many against us compared to his other games... it's taking the piss!

Yeah I agree with the point about appearing not to favour the bigger clubs. I can't really make comment on how he's refereed matches involving other big clubs because I haven't paid enough attention, but I think it's all too easy for refs like him to make decisions that go against the likes of United because it probably reflects well on them amongst their peers.

That's not a point on corruption either, just that they likely view making an unpopular decision at Old Trafford as a good trait in terms of the ref not being intimidated. It's probably not the easiest balance to strike either, you don't want players to walk all over you, but equally you don't want your own ego coming in the way of making the correct decision.

one thing to add here, is that for the big decisions yesterday, marinner is just as culpable.

but if referees are inclined to wave play on, hoping var will pick up any mistake, but the guidelines for var are to intervene less and less, then it follows that there will actually be even more wrong decisions.

Agreed. I actually made the same point yesterday. Historically Taylor's decisions against Man United haven't been good though.

 

[SER19]

Yeah I agree with the point about appearing not to favour the bigger clubs. I can't really make comment on how he's refereed matches involving other big clubs because I haven't paid enough attention, but I think it's all too easy for refs like him to make decisions that go against the likes of United because it probably reflects well on them amongst their peers.

That's not a point on corruption either, just that they likely view making an unpopular decision at Old Trafford as a good trait in terms of the ref not being intimidated. It's probably not the easiest balance to strike either, you don't want players to walk all over you, but equally you don't want your own ego coming in the way of making the correct decision.


Agreed. I actually made the same point yesterday. Historically Taylor's decisions against Man United haven't been good though.

yeah, 2 wins in 10 is outlier stuff.

 

[HookedOnAPhelan]

I used to think this bald wanker was alright, at least compared to some of the other jokers, but with the way he's been screwing us over in recent years he can feck right off, and take that twat Marriner with him.

 

[Hughie77]

Just been reading that other Twat Dermot Gallagher, ref watch crap, obviously it's a Red Card, the Handball pen, he says it clearly hits his chest First?????. Then he tries to move his arm away from the ball??.. Well my optician has hell of a job when I go that's not what I saw like millions of others. But as long as Taylor, Marriner, and Gallagher agree its OK.

 

[Problem-free Philosophy]

Just been reading that other Twat Dermot Gallagher, ref watch crap, obviously it's a Red Card, the Handball pen, he says it clearly hits his chest First?????. Then he tries to move his arm away from the ball??.. Well my optician has hell of a job when I go that's not what I saw like millions of others. But as long as Taylor, Marriner, and Gallagher agree its OK.

Just really rubs salt in the wound doesn't it?

The referees union perform the same sort of mental gymnastics as the planks on here that try to defend their decisions week in week out, blaming the players they supposedly support in the process.

 

[humdinger]

Just been reading that other Twat Dermot Gallagher, ref watch crap, obviously it's a Red Card, the Handball pen, he says it clearly hits his chest First?????. Then he tries to move his arm away from the ball??.. Well my optician has hell of a job when I go that's not what I saw like millions of others. But as long as Taylor, Marriner, and Gallagher agree its OK.

Yet Dermot Gallagher said VVD was only worth a yellow for his tackle. The Chelsea guy presenting the show was mortified at the idiocy.

 

[Man-United]

Atkinson was worse, but Taylor is close.

 

[stevoc]

This is what pissed me off aswell!

The other angle clearly shows that Casemiro hits the ball fully but his foot jumps up after the impact and shows a totally other story but VAR only focuses on the worst angle and basicly makes the refs mind up for him..

We lose points because of these incompetent VAR fellers.

And its not that long ago they gave Casemiro the red for holding around a Crystal Palace players collar while Ayew did the same to Fred in the same situation and to make it worse the same situation happened in a Chelsea game the day after and no red card from VAR.

Fixed

 

[Kaos]

Atkinson was worse, but Taylor is close.

Atkinson is legendary king cnut has far as shite refs go. Oliver up there with him too, but at least Oliver has been consistently shit enough to benefit us with shit decisions too.

Taylor is a genuine handicap for us.

 

[stevoc]

We do get favoured penalty decision, only the City one was more controversial, and decisive in terms of result.

What favoured penalty decisions?

We've had two this season one when 6 goals down and the other that was a blatant penalty that Mariner tried to ignore but VAR (for once) had him review it.

 

[stevoc]

If he was a United fan he wouldn't get our games anyway.

I think they changed that a few years ago the Refs can now ref any game they want even if it's a team from their City of birth. Sure it's like commentators they all say they support lower league teams anyway.