Nordic Ghost Yeti | Haaland at City

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That’s the thing though; that element of the team not necessarily playing to his strengths, or vice versa. And it’s impossible to tell.

If Haaland was to be a Pep style striker then why isn’t he doing it? It’s not even as if he’s trying to and failing at it, at no point has that happened. The entire spell he’s played as Haaland does. So that makes me think he isn’t being coached differently or hasn’t been given different instructions otherwise Pep would surely drop him considerably if he ignoring him?

But to that same token if Haaland is just being told to play like Haaland does then why hasn’t Pep got the team to playaround that element? When they do it’s to devastating effect, but they largely don’t.

If I was a City fan it would be absolutely maddening. Either commit to a Pep-Style striker, or allowing the final third instructions to benefit the Haaland-Style striker. This weird plan to use a Haaland-Style striker in a Pep-Style system is just odd and holding them back. Which is good news for everyone else.

It’s not even a case of dismantling the entire system to accommodate Haaland. They have shown at multiple points this season they can have their pie and eat it too with some small changes to their game in the final third - why not build on that? They seem to crack it, and then abandon in the very next game.

Edit: this narrative of “well he hasn’t scored that much really because he got a triple hat trick and five penalties” as if the triple hat trick is in any way comparable to penalties. The triple hat trick is impressive in its own right. It’s not like that Berba season where he put five past Blackburn (fwiw I am a Berba defender and think he was a good player).
Yeah, mirrors my thoughts each time I watch him/them failing to connect with one another; it's a halfway house that isn't beneficial to either party, and I don't think there's any surprise Haaland looks so less effective without De Bruyne in the team, as he was the only one looking to accommodate the player and his runs.

It's hard to see two entrenched styles compromising for one another between Pep and the system and Haaland doing what has reaped immense dividend for him throughout his career, especially so if he doesn't intend to stay there very long (or has his hand forced prematurely via City receiving punishment).
 

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It’s a bizarre one really, 5 pens and a triple hat trick. Accounts for more than half his PL goals & gives the impression he’s been significantly better than what he has in reality.
If you take away his pens, hattricks, braces and tap ins, he’s nothing special.
#mental gymnastics
 

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If you went back in time and made sure his parents never met at the Enchantment Under the Sea Dance he wouldn't even be born, not that impressive tbh
 

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I do wonder how he would fair at a club like Madrid. I think he would have the same struggles as he does at city. He needs the team to be built around him, to get the best out of him. Do that and thats what 40-50 goals a season possibly?
 

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For sure, he'll fall back into being a 25-30 goal per season striker I think.
Isn't he 22? It's strange how we view different players.

Antony is 22, his first season on EPL and is thought of as a work in progress. Given time and leeway to improve. Expected to improve.

Then there's Haaland. Same age, also his first year in EPL but considered at his peak. If anything folk are generally expecting him to drop off a bit from here on in.

I think he's brilliant. What's happening at City was entirely predicted. He won't suit Pep's style but will score loads anyway.
 

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I do wonder how he would fair at a club like Madrid. I think he would have the same struggles as he does at city. He needs the team to be built around him, to get the best out of him. Do that and thats what 40-50 goals a season possibly?
In this RM team? He would struggle a fair bit, i guess.

We are very reliant on Vinicius, as our right-flank doesn't do much, also, Palace played negative yesterday, but teams like that are very common in la liga, low block, foul, waste time and all that, reckon he would be fustrated.

Now, with a new right back, a new right winger, and some creativity in midfield then its a different story.
 

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City are scoring less than last year, 2.48 a game v 2.61 last year. Could improve by season end of course.

He hasn't improved their overall attack so far. Jesus was a better fit for their style of play?
 

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Its like a robot dancing right in the middle of a heart of Ballerinas. Can take a deadly centre of stage but ultimately a bit too heavy for the rest of the team.
 
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If you take away his pens, hattricks, braces and tap ins, he’s nothing special.
#mental gymnastics
That’s exactly what I said Troy :lol:

#mental gymnastics

The point was that his record is bloody fantastic, however, he has actually failed to score a non-penalty goal in 12 of his 24 PL starts.
So yeah, the stats can give the impression he’s twatting it in pretty much every game with a frankly outrageous 28 goals in 24 starts.
 
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City are scoring less than last year, 2.48 a game v 2.61 last year. Could improve by season end of course.

He hasn't improved their overall attack so far. Jesus was a better fit for their style of play?
Id say so. Look how much arsenal miss him. They are coping, but with him in the team they are a much better team.
 

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Isn't he 22? It's strange how we view different players.

Antony is 22, his first season on EPL and is thought of as a work in progress. Given time and leeway to improve. Expected to improve.

Then there's Haaland. Same age, also his first year in EPL but considered at his peak. If anything folk are generally expecting him to drop off a bit from here on in.

I think he's brilliant. What's happening at City was entirely predicted. He won't suit Pep's style but will score loads anyway.
For sure he'll improve all round but I think his first 20 games set an impossible rate is all.

Banging in 25-30 league goals is much more realistic I think and still phenomenal.
 

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City are scoring less than last year, 2.48 a game v 2.61 last year. Could improve by season end of course.

He hasn't improved their overall attack so far. Jesus was a better fit for their style of play?
It's not completely fair imo. They've been starting matches with 4 centre backs because Pep has lost the plot a bit and the team as a whole looks pretty flat.
 

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This team is clearly not at the same level overall as previous years and Haaland has suffered a bit from that.

Also, maybe it's just me but he looks like he's making a fraction of the runs he was earlier in the season because he knows he won't get the ball anyway.
 

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City are scoring less than last year, 2.48 a game v 2.61 last year. Could improve by season end of course.

He hasn't improved their overall attack so far. Jesus was a better fit for their style of play?
Jesus didn't play for most of last season either. I recall it was Foden playing at 9
 

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Jesus didn't play for most of last season either. I recall it was Foden playing at 9
Jesus got moved out on the wing because his confidence in front of goal was shot.

Him and Haaland would have been fantastic together
 

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They're definitely winning the CL after all this "What's he adding?" talk.
It's weird, they seem better set up for the CL this season compared to the PL. They might still win the league but it's been harder than the last two seasons for them.
 

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39 goals so far this season. Remember the joking of him getting 50 goals :lol:

10 UCL goals this season. He could beat Ronaldo’s record of 15 in one season!