Harry “Cheat” Kane

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Sir Harold of Kane was assaulted last night and if you think otherwise you are probably Irish.
 

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The exaggeration yesterday a lot of players would do, so whatever. He should be criticised for it but that's football sometimes.

The deliberately backing into players thing he was doing a lot a few seasons ago was particularly sly though and could easily have seriously hurt someone.

The more irksome thing is the pass he generally gets from the English media, though tbf they did criticise him yesterday.
 

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couldn’t believe my ears when Neville admitted Kane’s a diver, albeit caveated with “he’s clever” afterward
 

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There was an instance in a recent Spurs-West Ham game where Antonio and Kane were going for a loose ball. Antonio slid in to get the ball and his boot studs were prodding the ball into Kane’s shins and Kane went down like he’d be kneecapped by a shotgun after 3 full seconds of it. Antonio got carded for it too.

I was amazed how there was zero coverage of that.
 

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He did what every single other player in the league would do if somebody hits them in the face. What is the big deal?
I've absolutely no love for the vacant, big game disappearing, pen stat padding fella, but I saw the incident and can't believe all the fuss.

An idiot whacked him round the face and I'm not actually surprised the shock and impact knocked him away and off balance.

Compare it to that utter snivveler in your 6-1 win getting Martial sent off, and they're chalk and cheese.
 

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Most players absolutely would do it - we see it every single week. If you honestly think 'most players' don't then I'm not sure what game you have been watching in the last decade.
I object to the idea that it's the standard response to being touched in the face. It's what you expect from sly cnuts known for trying to cheat... so I guess it's exactly what you'd expect from Kane.
 

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There was an instance in a recent Spurs-West Ham game where Antonio and Kane were going for a loose ball. Antonio slid in to get the ball and his boot studs were prodding the ball into Kane’s shins and Kane went down like he’d be kneecapped by a shotgun after 3 full seconds of it. Antonio got carded for it too.

I was amazed how there was zero coverage of that.
Yes! That was also in my mind when I started this thread. First time I’ve ever seen a footballer feign serious injury after being hit on the leg by a football. Can’t find a clip anywhere. Pity. One of the strangest bits of cheating you’ll see.
 

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Yes! That was also in my mind when I started this thread. First time I’ve ever seen a footballer feign serious injury after being hit on the leg by a football. Can’t find a clip anywhere. Pity. One of the strangest bits of cheating you’ll see.
Rivaldo, surely?
 

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I think hes still living in the old days of "if someone touches you in the face, go down like a sack of potatoes, to try get him sent off" Not really needed anymore though with VAR, well you would assume! :nervous:
 

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I thought he was hit on the midriff? Outrageous cheating all the same, obviously. Which he’s paid a big reputational price for. For a lot of fans that’s mainly how he’s remembered.
Top[ of the thigh I think but yeah. You're right because he was a brilliant player. With a difficult personality :D :lol:
 

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Take your pick from this melée. Fred and Hughes the two players most obviously getting hands in their face. Neither of them resort to the cheating we saw from Kane last night. The fact that Casemiro still got sent off also prove you don’t need to make a massive fuss about slight contact to the head/neck in order for a player to get sent off.
Going back a bit but Vidic didn't even flinch when Drogba slapped him in 2008.

 

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Is everything alright, @Pogue Mahone? Between this and your “Why isn’t football rugby?” thread it’s all going a bit Kimbo Slice.
 

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There really needs to be retrospective punishment for players pretending things hurt when they didn't. The antics of fernandes, kane etc is absolutely disgraceful and ruins the games image.
 

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I’ve obviously got a blind spot as a United fan, who is fond of a player that is constantly incredibly dramatic but with Bruno it feels like it’s at least partially his personality. He’s a massive drama queen, always flapping his arms and pulling faces. So making a meal out of every foul feels like a natural extension of his personality. Plus he’s a product of a football culture where those antics are less likely to be criticised.

With Kane it all feels much more cold blooded and cynical. Not hint of emotion until he’s pretending a waft of a hand by his face was like being slammed with a baseball bat so he can make sure an opposition player gets sent off. England’s captain displaying values that are the exact opposite of what his football culture is supposed to be all about.
20 years ago I think that was true.

Sadly today I think all nations, all players, are as bad each other. Everyone cheats constantly in football.
 

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There really needs to be retrospective punishment for players pretending things hurt when they didn't. The antics of fernandes, kane etc is absolutely disgraceful and ruins the games image.
You can't unfortunately. You can't prove it didn't really hurt. We know it didn't but you can't prove it.

Think back to instances where you think a player is exaggerating and it turns out its a genuine injury.
 

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There really needs to be retrospective punishment for players pretending things hurt when they didn't. The antics of fernandes, kane etc is absolutely disgraceful and ruins the games image.
Oh yeah, it's an absolutely great and very clever idea to subjectively interpret whether another human being is hurting or not. Just let the referee or VAR decide whether a challenge hurts.
 

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There was a whole thing about his backing into players recently. It was everywhere.

I don't think he embellishes more than any other player but he's probably held to a higher standard than others.
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It would be hard to find a quality No.9 who isn’t dirty and physical. It’s part of the job description, otherwise CBs have won the mental battle before it starts.

Shearer was absolutely brilliant, but he was incredibly physical and loved using his elbows. Competing in that physical battle gains you those inches for headers and snapshots that these players need to keep up their ridiculous consistency.

I sometimes think that the clean presentation of football helps us forget how incredibly physical it is. Gettin absolutely smashed by a 6’4 CB with legs the size of trees can’t be fun.

If you don’t do what you can to get ahead, you don’t get the goals that he does. He is a reliable guarantee of goals no matter how badly your team is playing.

I want him here!
 

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Kane is a shithead held to different standards by the media because he’s England’s darling. His antics yesterday were nothing short of embarrassing, and in fact he should’ve been sent off as well for two bookable offences in the build up to the sending off.
 

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Has anyone ever come across any mention of this in the media?
Of course not. He's English and he doesn't play for United, so there's no money to be made from outrage-clicks if they were to talk about it.
 

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Oh yeah, it's an absolutely great and very clever idea to subjectively interpret whether another human being is hurting or not. Just let the referee or VAR decide whether a challenge hurts.

There are so many blatant examples of cheating, better to punish some of them than none of them.

Common sense should be applied, if a player gets their face tickled and their legs collapse they are doing something called cheating, punish them. Refs and var are afraid to punish diving and embellishment. It's much easier retrospectively as less pressure to get it correct within a short time frame. Refs and var usually let people away with diving as Var can't suggest a yellow card and refs are shitebags. Diving should be worth more than a yellow iny opinion, really clamp down on it. If you get the odd person who gets suspended wrongly so be it. Better than having people falling about when nothings happened.
 
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you can be english and roll around and feign injury to get a penalty but under no circumstance do you go down under that kind of contact to the face. imagine doing that in a wetherspoons game on a friday night? you’d be thrown in with the nonces.
Think there's a little more at stake in a Premier League game than there is in a wetherspoons game. When there's millions of pounds at stake in the top 4 race, people are more willing to engage in the dark arts. Humans are naturally going to behave differently depending on what's at stake. I might exaggerate certain things in a job interview because there's a huge pay rise at stake, but if I talked about myself in the same way in the pub with my mates then I'd be ridiculed.
 

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It was smart move. To make sure that Everton player gets a red (which he deserves).
Refs lots of time don't give deserved foul/penalty/ card because players don't make a fuss about tackle.
 

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I don't see how Kane is getting the brunt of this. It's not like he didn't actually touch him.