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[dove]

Front page of Reddit or on r/UkraineWarVideoReport there is a video of Russians behading a Ukrainian POW with a fecking knife

Not that i reccomend anyone watching that shite, but if it gets enough mainstream attention then it might spark enough outrage that NATO countries + the rest gets a bit more generous and start sending ATACM's, fighter jets etc

It definitely got a lot of attention and what it will at least do is make Ukrainian soldiers think twice before taking Russian POWs instead of just executing them. Wouldn’t blame them.

 

[langster]

Everyone should watch it.

No, they shouldn't. Just knowing about it is enough, I don't need to see it thanks. I think many feel the same.

 

[RedDevilQuebecois]

It definitely got a lot of attention and what it will at least do is make Ukrainian soldiers think twice before taking Russian POWs instead of just executing them. Wouldn’t blame them.

Indeed. This war will end up taking a turn that is as nasty as in the Pacific War, but we can't say that the Russians have not asked for it with such behavior.

 

[Ragnar123]

Not that i reccomend anyone watching that shite, but if it gets enough mainstream attention then it might spark enough outrage that NATO countries + the rest gets a bit more generous and start sending ATACM's, fighter jets etc

If murdering a POW for saying "Glory to Ukraine", sending missiles into civilian homes, Bucha, Irpin, civilian mass graves and torture chambers in every town, shelling bus stops and train stations, driving over cars full of people with tanks, abducting children after killing their parants, raping infants, raping children on the bodies of their dead parents, bombing Mariupol theatre and hundreds other unbearable war crimes didn't spark enough outrage, then this won't either.

It definitely got a lot of attention and what it will at least do is make Ukrainian soldiers think twice before taking Russian POWs instead of just executing them. Wouldn’t blame them.

If you start executing, Russians start doing the same. As unbearable as it is, you need to be better than that and continue to be as respectful as possible, so many of your comrades won't suffer a cycle of revenge. For every Russian POW a friend can come back and hug his family again.

 

[spiriticon]

I haven't seen that video, not do I plan to, but it confirms everything I felt about Russia in the last year.

Just ISIS with nuclear weapons.

 

[Ragnar123]

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This guy was a comedian before...surreal how the characters of people come out in the toughest of times. I can't judge his politics, but in my opinion Ukraine can't wish for a better leader in times of war.

 

[VorZakone]

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[dove]

If you start executing POWs, Russians start doing the same. As unbearable as it is, you need to be better than that and continue to be as respectful as possible, so many of your comerades won't suffer a cycle of revenge.

I get what you are saying and I agree in general but Russia have been doing it since day 1. Just a few days ago there was another video of a couple decapitated Ukrainian soldiers laying nearby a destroyed vehicle, for all we know they were also executed while being alive. Imagine how many more similar things happened that were not recorded, or the recordings are still yet to appear. Personally I would completely understand if we would see a decrease in captured Russian POWs in the upcoming weeks.

 

[11101]

Everyone should watch it.

No, they shouldn't. Images like that can stay with people for a long, long time and cause serious problems.


I'm curious why they have started doing this. Is it damaged soldiers taking out their anger, commanded from above for propaganda, or are they running out of ammunition? The Nazis did this kind of thing at the end of WW2 in the camps because they didn't have enough bullets for everybody.

 

[We need an rvn]

Everyone should watch it.

Not at all. Just like @11101 stated, these things can stay with you and cause huge mental problems. I had to stop watching stranger things as it messed with my mind. Watching this, no chance.

I'm not saying we / the world should be ignorant and pretend this stuff isn't happening, and in a way I'm happy there is video evidence of the crimes being committed. Hopefully in time they will pay the penalty for these hideous war crimes and justice will be served.

 

[Ragnar123]

I get what you are saying and I agree in general but Russia have been doing it since day 1. Just a few days ago there was another video of a couple decapitated Ukrainian soldiers laying nearby a destroyed vehicle, for all we know they were also executed while being alive. Imagine how many more similar things happened that were not recorded, or the recordings are still yet to appear. Personally I would completely understand if we would see a decrease in captured Russian POWs in the upcoming weeks.

I know. For every recorded war crime, there are probably hundreds unrecorded and untold. Still there are thousands of prisoners on both sides. You start a revenge cycle and that will only lead to more deaths on both sides. Every time I watch prisoner exchange videos, when Ukrainians call their relatives with tears in their eyes as soon as they are free again, you know how important it is to hold on Russian prisoners to exchange them for your people. One friend alive is worth more than 100 terrorists dead in my opinion.

 

[Rajma]

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[dove]

Seems like we might be slowly losing patience with Hungary.

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They got away for far too long blatantly supporting Russia, just yesterday:

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[harms]

Everyone should watch it.

We should spread the word about it but no, watching it will only traumatize most (all?) people without getting anything out of it. The fact that it exists as proof is enough.

 

[Ragnar123]

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Just a matter of time until they push for a fake again, as they did in Bucha.

 

[Raoul]

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If there's one person who would know its Burns.

 

[Raoul]

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Just a matter of time until they push for a fake again, as they did in Bucha.

I think anyone who parrots this false flag stuff will wind up receiving an invitation at the this war's equivalent of the Nuremberg trials.

 

[Raoul]

Seems like we might be slowly losing patience with Hungary.

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They got away for far too long blatantly supporting Russia, just yesterday:

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Long overdue. And its not as if Orban has the luxury of removing Hungary from NATO so he can run into the arms of a weakened Putin.

 

[Raoul]

I haven't seen that video, not do I plan to, but it confirms everything I felt about Russia in the last year.

Just ISIS with nuclear weapons.

And its not the first time its happened during the war if some of the reports of Wagner activities last year are to be believed.

 

[Simbo]

And its not the first time its happened during the war if some of the reports of Wagner activities last year are to be believed.

Plus all the accounts and videos of them doing the same Syria, it is nothing new for them.

 

[VeevaVee]

And its not the first time its happened during the war if some of the reports of Wagner activities last year are to be believed.

There was a video of a Wagner soldier cutting off a captured Ukrainian’s genitals while still alive. Apparently the guy who did it has history for it too.

Horrific.

 

[Ragnar123]

Plus all the accounts and videos of them doing the same Syria, it is nothing new for them.

Yes and before they did it in Africa. They kept some warlord or dictator in power and in return, they could loot, rape, torture and murder without fear of any consequences. Just look up which African countries support Russia in UN votes, then you know where Wagner operates. They consist of the worst kind of scum and they're still not officially declared as a terrorist organization. And the biggest hypocracy is, that private military and mercenary organizations are forbidden in Russia by law.

 

[The Firestarter]

Yes and before they did it in Africa. They kept some warlord or dictator in power and in return, they could loot, rape, torture and murder without fear of any consequences. Just look up which African countries support Russia in UN votes, then you know where Wagner operates. They consists of the worst kind of scum and they're still not officialy declared as an terrorist organization. And the biggest hypocracy is, that private military and mercenary organizations are forbidden in Russia by law.

If Pirogin becomes really inconvenient, watch how they suddenly realize all that.

 

[Stookie]

No, they shouldn't. Images like that can stay with people for a long, long time and cause serious problems.


I'm curious why they have started doing this. Is it damaged soldiers taking out their anger, commanded from above for propaganda, or are they running out of ammunition? The Nazis did this kind of thing at the end of WW2 in the camps because they didn't have enough bullets for everybody.

I don’t think even the Nazis beheaded people. I could be wrong- I’m sure someone can correct me- but I think they just hung most of them- as horrible as that is. There’s something about beheading that is a level below horrific. Either way, the things that men can do to each other seems to know no limits. There’s a phone (on YouTube) call between a Russian soldier and his mother and he is taking delight in torturing prisoners. Civilians as well. He goes into detail about something called 21 roses. It nearly made me sick. And his mum is cheering him on.

 

[4bars]

I don’t think even the Nazis beheaded people. I could be wrong- I’m sure someone can correct me- but I think they just hung most of them- as horrible as that is. There’s something about beheading that is a level below horrific. Either way, the things that men can do to each other seems to know no limits. There’s a phone (on YouTube) call between a Russian soldier and his mother and he is taking delight in torturing prisoners. Civilians as well. He goes into detail about something called 21 roses. It nearly made me sick. And his mum is cheering him on.

To be honest, I would rather be beheaded in 1 stroke like in a guillotine than hanged. But I know what you mean, the connotations of beheading goes beyond that pain, but so is hanging in the XXI century. Are barbaric methods to kill. if you want to kill someone in war, bullet in the head.

 

[RedDevilQuebecois]

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Reeks of the same shit that was done during the Korean War and during the Vietnam War: doing just enough to maintain the independence of an allied country, but still never enough to whoop the aggressor's ass into oblivion.

Douglas MacArthur was the last highly-ranked US general willing to achieve total victory through whatever means possible. Other than perhaps Norman Schwarzkopf, I don't think I have seen any other American general since MacArthur having this mindset in a high position of command within the US military.

 

[Red Rash]

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Just a matter of time until they push for a fake again, as they did in Bucha.

I wish all politicians were forced to wear lie detectors every time they speak in public. It's just farcical at this stage

 

[The Firestarter]

Reeks of the same shit that was done during the Korean War and during the Vietnam War: doing just enough to maintain the independence of an allied country, but still never enough to whoop the aggressor's ass into oblivion.

Douglas MacArthur was the last highly-ranked US general willing to achieve total victory through whatever means possible. Other than perhaps Norman Schwarzkopf, I don't think I have seen any other American general since MacArthur having this mindset in a high position of command within the US military.

Those commanders were in charge of actual US forces participating in combat though. Not determining policy on military aid to a friendly country.

 

[4bars]

Reeks of the same shit that was done during the Korean War and during the Vietnam War: doing just enough to maintain the independence of an allied country, but still never enough to whoop the aggressor's ass into oblivion.

Douglas MacArthur was the last highly-ranked US general willing to achieve total victory through whatever means possible. Other than perhaps Norman Schwarzkopf, I don't think I have seen any other American general since MacArthur having this mindset in a high position of command within the US military.

US never had a chance in vietnam and korea. Even full force

 

[VorZakone]

Russian President Vladimir Putin personally approved the arrest of a US reporter on espionage charges for the first time since the Cold War, according to people familiar with the situation.

The Russian president’s endorsement of the move reflects the growing influence of Kremlin hardliners who push for deepening a confrontation with Washington they view as irreversible, the people said, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss matters that aren’t public.

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[Raoul]

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He would've had to given the political ramifications of doing it.

 

[the hea]

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[RedDevilQuebecois]

If the profile is right, that leaker is your far-right MAGA asshole with racist and antisemitic views.

Leaker of U.S. secret documents worked on military base, friend says (Washington Post)

OG is so, so fecked. Feck him if the authorities get his ass.

 

[calodo2003]

If the profile is right, that leaker is your far-right MAGA asshole with racist and antisemitic views.

Leaker of U.S. secret documents worked on military base, friend says (Washington Post)

OG is so, so fecked. Feck him if the authorities get his ass.

If Reality Winner got over five years in the slammer, OG should reap the whirlwind.

 

[The Firestarter]

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When having shitty tech helps

 

[calodo2003]

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[nimic]

Reeks of the same shit that was done during the Korean War and during the Vietnam War: doing just enough to maintain the independence of an allied country, but still never enough to whoop the aggressor's ass into oblivion.

Douglas MacArthur was the last highly-ranked US general willing to achieve total victory through whatever means possible. Other than perhaps Norman Schwarzkopf, I don't think I have seen any other American general since MacArthur having this mindset in a high position of command within the US military.

Douglas MacArthur would have nuked China if he had his way, and the world would not be a better place if that happened. I also don't agree at all with comparing the US involvement in Vietnam with the US involvement here. They dropped more bombs in the Vietnam War than they dropped in the entire Second World War. They had a draft and nearly 3 million Americans served in Vietnam, in total, with 60k of them dying.

They weren't WW2-involved, but short of that they were as involved as they've ever been in anything except fighting themselves in the 1860s.

 

[MTF]

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My current view on this whole bizarre leak (for clout on a gamer incel discord channel), is that I don't think it's intentional (otherwise whoever conjured up the trail of how to leak it got really creative), but I also don't think the intel contained is that sensitive. Could possibly even be stuff that the Russians and others are able to access, if a Massachusetts Air Natl Guard Airman First Class is all you need to flip to get access.

 

[the hea]

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[calodo2003]

Womp, womp.