I mean he's terrible in the final third, and that doesn't have anything to do with his team.
Garnacho has 11 goals + assists, that's more than any Chelsea player this season.
Where do you get the 11 goals from?Garnacho has 11 goals + assists, that's more than any Chelsea player this season.
They really are so bad
Asking about Chelsea?
Garnacho?
They said goals plus assists
Goals + assists.
I insist. The only reason you imagine any part of your claim is valid is because of what I stated earlier. Chelsea right now makes every attacking player resemble Adama Traore at his most brainless. Even those we already know are provably better than him like Sterling and Felix to name just 2. Its currently pointless to judge any of them because all assessments are skewered in the wrong way by circumstance. Garnacho himself would look just as awful in his place thanks to what has gone on there all season
Man you must have a tough time evaluating anyone then if you can never form an opinion on a player unless they are in a perfect situation.
I'd even have if my favorite was in the 2nd division
Yeah I don’t get all of this “it’s way too early to be judging him. You guys are gonna look dumb when he starts firing because he has so much potential.”
Tbh when that bald guy on sky was talking about this transfer, i too thought he was talking about Modric but pronouncing it wrong
This just speaks to how poor chelsea is doing, not how good Muddy is doing.
That's the spirit otherwise only the fans of the best teams would be allowed to wind up others
Oppo fans all wrote off our players after last season so why shouldn't we return the favour?
There’s a very good reason why he’s only played 537 minutes since signing in January. It’s because he’s been terrible when he has played and ended up being benched. The fact he’s been restricted to only 537 minutes is a reflection of how poor he’s been.
(That's the joke mate)
Not to come off as some tribal nitwit but I just don't think this is correct - he's joined a club in the middle of what was his summer break, had no pre-season, and has still performed better than Sterling.
Tbh I think everyone who’s criticising him knows full well he can come good just like any player. A lot of the criticism is no doubt over zealous and extreme because he’s a chelsea player and most of us enjoy seeing the mess Chelsea are in. But ultimately players are always going to be judged on the here and now. So far he has been really poor and underwhelming despite the allowance for a settling in period. Yes chelsea are a mess but individuals can still have moments where they give you hope and promise. Look at Enzo, he’s showing he’s a good player in the middle of the mess. Mudryk has a long way to go to get to where he needs to be and is expected to be. I’ve no doubt he’ll probably be better next season. But I’m not convinced yet that just being better will be enough.
On that we agree fully - but I just think it's fair to give some specific context to his performances. Most summer signings have the benefit of a pre-season to get up to speed and aren't chucked immediately into the deep-end. Most signings aren't coping with the personal difficultly of an ongoing invasion in their home country. Most signings joining a top team are stepping into a functional situation that isn't completely fecking chaotic. When he signed, Potter had been playing 4-2-3-1 / 4-3-3 most of the time, then he switched immediately to 3-4-2-1 - again not to make excuses but Mudryk was used in his favoured position at LW for maybe 85 total minutes, then was used as a striker. It was completely ridiculous management at the time and we can only hope it hasn't affected him permanently.
If it's casual banter, sure.
You lot on this site do it to your own as well. 85% of you wanted Rashford gone. Look at the Sancho or Antony threads. Look at the "We'll never win the league with Bruno" thread.
We might not......
The issue seems to be extremes in opinion. A couple of decent performances from Mudryk and everyone will be running about claiming how bad United's scouting department is, how Glazers aren't buying players, and how Manchester is not an attractive enough destination. Mudryk right now is truly terrible, but it's not without reason he was highly regarded prior to his move and nearly signed by Arsenal. He's most likely a decent coach, stable team & absence of ownership interference away from setting it right, as are most players in your squad.
I'm sure the two polar opposite reactions are connected. I don't think there would be such a rush to come in here after every 20 min cameo where he touches the ball 4 times in a Chelsea team utterly bereft of confidence to talk about how shit and overrated he is if there hadn't been that total overreaction and silly hype proclamations like 'he will be a Ballon d'Or winner soon' after his little debut cameo at Anfield.
True. Good point.
You can delete “oppo” from that.
But there's context to that. He joined the team in January having not kicked a ball since November. He had a good debut but in the games he started after that he looked rusty as feck. Potter recognised that and held him back. It benefited no-one, least of all Mudryk himself, to keep throwing him out there when he was nowhere near match fit. Him being on the bench is the club doing right by him.
It seems weird. Chelsea and the players have gotten away with it this season. I remember every United player was questioned last season and we finished 6th... Chelsea are 12th and there is no inquest.
You guys wrote off your own players. I distinctly remember the hate on here for Rashford and he is your best player now.
People love the narrative that United are a mess and the players are bad, and no one at the club is competent in anyway. It sells papers, it generates clicks, and everyone that isn’t a United fan (and some United fans) love it.
