el_loco_bielsa
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Disgusting cheating doped up fecking Cnut feckers led by a doped up bald fecking Cnut fraud and funded by fecking blood money straight out of the last scenes of scarface. Fecking Cnuts.
To be fair I think this is a valid concern. There's no evidence at all that SJ / Qatar would do this, at least nothing in the public domain that I know of, but the pressure to compete and be seen to compete with Abu Dhabi and the Saudis would be massive for local bragging rights. That could easily spill over into all sorts of shenanigans. I think it would be quite instructive if the City case were to be heard and resolved prior to our sale (I know it won't be in likelihood, although with the way the Glazers are dragging it out who knows). At least then if Qatar were the owners they might hopefully have been sent a clear message about not doing it - or that it's tolerated in the worst case outcome.Nope, we are hamstrung by ffp rules. We can spend 100 million this summer. That won‘t be enough for the Qatarese to achieve their wet dreams.
Not often I applaud a scouser but fair playDisgusting cheating doped up fecking Cnut feckers led by a doped up bald fecking Cnut fraud and funded by fecking blood money straight out of the last scenes of scarface. Fecking Cnuts.
ScarfaceDisgusting cheating doped up fecking Cnut feckers led by a doped up bald fecking Cnut fraud and funded by fecking blood money straight out of the last scenes of scarface. Fecking Cnuts.
Get in the fecking bin!Why would these owners of smaller clubs be more annoyed about City being able to outspend them, than Utd, who also do it?
It’s time to admit that this is nothing to do with helping smaller clubs, but about ensuring Utd’s place at the top of the financial tree for eternity.
Oh please let me throw him inGet in the fecking bin!
The precedent was set when the CL case fizzled out. Essentially gave them the freedom to do whatever they wanted. 2 years down the line from that, they are in the final and will probably win it. Makes a mockery of the CL and UEFA.I can't believe we're falling for this charade. This is just the next scene in this play. The epilogue will be the PL saying"well we tried" just like Uefa and their time boundedness. Yawn.
This summer yes, but we won’t be toeing this close to the FFP line forever. Especially if we become debt free.Nope, we are hamstrung by ffp rules. We can spend 100 million this summer. That won‘t be enough for the Qatarese to achieve their wet dreams.
You’ll have to join the queue.Oh please let me throw him in
Happy to do thatYou’ll have to join the queue.
Yeah the owners of smaller clubs should be over the moon instead because while they and other clubs need to adhere to FFP City can do what they want.Why would these owners of smaller clubs be more annoyed about City being able to outspend them, than Utd, who also do it?
It’s time to admit that this is nothing to do with helping smaller clubs, but about ensuring Utd’s place at the top of the financial tree for eternity.
The 115 charges are nothing to do with them being state owned. The charges are related to them committing financial fraud i.e. cooking the books. It is possible for a club to be state owned as you say and not commit fraud.This threads resurgence is pathetic given the widespread support on here for our potential ownership by Qatar. I’m sorry, but anybody who wants us to be owned by a nation state on the basis they’ll throw money at the club, and then has the bare faced cheek to come in here and piss and whine about City needs to give their head a wobble. From looking at the replies, there are quite a lot of you who’d sit plumb centre in the middle of that Venn diagram.
Myself, on the other hand am completely against Qatar because of this reason, so I can stay. Most of the rest of you need to bugger off.
Like Al Capone, eventually caught on tax evasion I believe.To be fair to Pep, it's purely a coincidence that he just happens to be around when cheating goes on, whether that's as a player or manager.
Let's not jump to any rash conclusions. I'm sure there's an innocent explanation for all of this...
Nah, Peps the guy in the mob who is seen at every crime scene but never convicted until one day they've got him but he immediately starts to squeal on everyone.
Big big difference is that we are already the biggest club in the country who simply need to stop being fed on by leeches and have an owner who is happy to invest our own money in building a great football team.This threads resurgence is pathetic given the widespread support on here for our potential ownership by Qatar. I’m sorry, but anybody who wants us to be owned by a nation state on the basis they’ll throw money at the club, and then has the bare faced cheek to come in here and piss and whine about City needs to give their head a wobble. From looking at the replies, there are quite a lot of you who’d sit plumb centre in the middle of that Venn diagram.
Myself, on the other hand am completely against Qatar because of this reason, so I can stay. Most of the rest of you need to bugger off.
Cheating doesn't have to affect you directly for it to be wrong or for you to call it as wrong. Where is the line for you. Is paying referees ok as long as it is only against the big teams?Why would these owners of smaller clubs be more annoyed about City being able to outspend them, than Utd, who also do it?
It’s time to admit that this is nothing to do with helping smaller clubs, but about ensuring Utd’s place at the top of the financial tree for eternity.
Yeah but your club legend is out here saying ‘I know they are cheats but look at Pep, isn’t he just amazing’.Disgusting cheating doped up fecking Cnut feckers led by a doped up bald fecking Cnut fraud and funded by fecking blood money straight out of the last scenes of scarface. Fecking Cnuts.
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He needs to say that because the feckers who are employing him have already received cease and desist letters from the city lawyers along with the rest of the visual media.Yeah but your club legend is out here saying ‘I know they are cheats but look at Pep, isn’t he just amazing’.
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This is why when the question gets asked about why isn't anyone talking about City and their cheating, or why doesn't anyone care, it's because you got mouth-breathing plebs like this guy going "Yeah, they've broken the rules and cheated their way to the top and screwed everyone else over, and as a result are dominating their league now and for the foreseeable future...but that football they play, huh? phwoar!"Yeah but your club legend is out here saying ‘I know they are cheats but look at Pep, isn’t he just amazing’.
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Getting rid of the debt would be fantastic. It is perhaps worth remembering though, that being debt-free will only have a minimal impact on our ability to buy players (we'd be about £20m a year better off than we are now, which doesn't even buy you an average fullback these days). I want the club to be debt-free, but those thinking that a debt-free United can spend vastly more on players than we currently can do, are not correct.Would be a shame if anyone seriously wants us to follow the Man City method of making up fake sponsorships to fund the club but because of the size of our club we should be making enough genuine revenue to compete anyway. The reason I want Sheikh Jassim is because they'll pay off the debt and allow us to actually invest all the revenue back into the club
They have gotten away with it.If city gets away with this I will just give up on the PL.
I love our club but I feel like I've already lost 10 years watching a fixed contest and I'm just tired of it.
I have no problem with owners throwing money at the club, just don't cook the books and we will be fine.This threads resurgence is pathetic given the widespread support on here for our potential ownership by Qatar. I’m sorry, but anybody who wants us to be owned by a nation state on the basis they’ll throw money at the club, and then has the bare faced cheek to come in here and piss and whine about City needs to give their head a wobble. From looking at the replies, there are quite a lot of you who’d sit plumb centre in the middle of that Venn diagram.
Myself, on the other hand am completely against Qatar because of this reason, so I can stay. Most of the rest of you need to bugger off.
You really have a way with words! Kudos!!!Disgusting cheating doped up fecking Cnut feckers led by a doped up bald fecking Cnut fraud and funded by fecking blood money straight out of the last scenes of scarface. Fecking Cnuts.
AgreeI have no problem with owners throwing money at the club, just don't cook the books and we will be fine.
That is the plan. We need to be managed better financially, not illegally doped.This summer yes, but we won’t be toeing this close to the FFP line forever. Especially if we become debt free.
It is spoken about, but people in the media have to be careful given how quickly City set a rabid pack of lawyers on to anyone that questions them.They have gotten away with it.
Hence it is never spoken about. Rather it’s endless stories about Guardiola’s genius in having a fresh squad while everyone else’s is utterly knackered after a World Cup season!
Bravo, A+. You are talented.Disgusting cheating doped up fecking Cnut feckers led by a doped up bald fecking Cnut fraud and funded by fecking blood money straight out of the last scenes of scarface. Fecking Cnuts.
And why do you think they cooked the books? Do you imagine Qatar would behave any differently to deliver the Football Manager wet dreams of people on here?The 115 charges are nothing to do with them being state owned. The charges are related to them committing financial fraud i.e. cooking the books. It is possible for a club to be state owned as you say and not commit fraud.
We’d have to fabricate revenue for Qatari overlords to make a difference. The glazers have squeezed the pips out of what is achievable in terms of actual revenues.Big big difference is that we are already the biggest club in the country who simply need to stop being fed on by leeches and have an owner who is happy to invest our own money in building a great football team.
Man City on the other hand are a relatively small club who have to fabricate revenue and essentially cheat the FFP regulations in order to build a great football team.
The difference is actually chalk and cheese to be honest.
You may not and City fans may not, but the rules don’t agree with you, them and Abu Dhabi.I have no problem with owners throwing money at the club, just don't cook the books and we will be fine.
They’re spot on, tbh.You can't seriously be thick enough to actually believe this. Or did you feel like just annoying people for no reason?
He did it with inhalersI‘m more impressed with Klopp than that bald sweater wearing cheating feck, Klopp did it without financial doping.
I would love to see the other clubs refuse to play City next season but I know some clubs wont want to do it out of fear thdy might be punished.If I am the owner of another Premier League side, I am already in contact with my fellow owners about voting City out of the League.
Even if it's only symbolic, it sends a clear message. In fact,every side should just sit down on the pitch so they win every game, but create a new trophy for the title winners, and give the 2nd place side the current PL trophy.
Just start fecking with them
Breath of fresh air though, literally.He did it with inhalers
Smaller teams get 1 charge and get points deductions between 3 and 9 points!Maybe if they get away with it, then another smaller team gets done for some minor disdemenour in comparison, the the sh*t might hit the fan. I mentioned elsewhere if they come too dominant, more than United were, then it might actually dilute the brand. Why watch City games when you know they will just win. If they don't watch it the PL will become the farmers league we all laugh at. Think as someone else said it could be European teams who get p*ssed off first and set up their own ESL and Cup competition. Then if it starts attracting some of the other PL teams it could collapse pretty quickly.
Qatar is the only option on the table that’s willing to clear all debt. Also just because we’d be owned buy Sheikh Jassim doesn’t mean we’d be financially doped. If we’re debt free and run competently we’d be able to spend the money we generate and be competitive without the need of the owners to pump a ton of their own money in. The only cash they’d be required to put in themselves would be for stadium and infrastructure upgrades.That is the plan. We need to be managed better financially, not illegally doped.
You seem like a nice rational not angry person. May I suggest you should probably start a petition or a vigil? it's what you guys excel at.Disgusting cheating doped up fecking Cnut feckers led by a doped up bald fecking Cnut fraud and funded by fecking blood money straight out of the last scenes of scarface. Fecking Cnuts.