Only because we have neglected everything but transfer fees to keep up and even then the Glazers now have to sell because of it.
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Which world class striker are we going to sign this summer for £70-£80m?
Well they've gone backwards in squad quality so it will be a hell of a reshaping job. If he wants to stay there and win feck all, well that's his choice. It's now or never if he wants to leave.
At least we disclose all of ours
I guess the difference is with Conte coming in he must have been genuinely convinced they could win the league after his work at Chelsea. But now he has to realize that this is literally the last chance he has to win anything. If he wants to win trophies he must leave this summer. If he thinks that they will bring in a new manager and that'll give him a shot then he's simply a fool who's wasted his career in terms of his talent. It was no secret he downed tools last year to force through a move to City so i doubt he's committed as everyone thinks nowadays, and rightly so.
It’s fairly obvious to me that he’s leaving if he can but he’s contracted to the club for another year. He can’t come out and say “who cares what happens, I’m off this summer anyway”.
I am happy to repeat: Kane is very good footballer, a great striker and in terms of his playmaking traits he'd probably be a good fit. But the prices quoted are insane. We have a few holes to plug so any transfer plan that involves spending close to 100 million on a single player/striker must be insanely good as we need a few other good players as well. I don't think that United has it in them to create nor to execute such a plan.
All correct, but lets not derail this thread to make a point. We were talking about no player being a guaranteed success. And Uniteds recent transfer history is the absolute picture boy of that.
Those alternatives just show why Kane is an essential purchase though. Toney will be £60/£70m and is only a little bit younger. I’m not convinced he’s good enough to lead the line for United and we can’t use him until January even if we did persuade Brentford to let him go. He just isn’t an option.
Except we can
It depends on the price. If Brentford wants crazy money, then I wouldn't call him an option as well but he is banned as you said so who knows what will happen. He also isn't just a little bit younger, he is 27 approaching his prime. Kane will be 30 before the new season starts.
Well I agree, I also wouldn't like to see United get fleeced for younger players. But those younger players will only get more expensive when they turn good. And even if not, you will always get the most of your money back. That won't be the case with Kane. Look, even if he has a good season, hitting another 25 goals and we win something next season - what is next? Are we hoping that he holds this level?
At some point United has to start to act smartly recruitment-wise. Always going for the supposedly sure bet isn't going to cut. Especially as - as depicted in my earlier post - United is fecking shit at assessing risks and chances apparently. What kind of price do you think Levy would want? Can't imagine anything close to a "bargain" to be honest.
I think we are in an exceptional position here. We literally don’t have an outright CF currently who can stay fit. As such, we have to spend money to buy an established one now. The way we are ran is partly to blame for that but we have also been fairly unlucky that over the last 12-15 months, Ronaldo threw such a hissy fit that he had to go, Greenwood obviously was ruled out and was our long term plan for that position and Martial hasn’t been able to develop into the player we might have expected at 27.
Good post I was going to say exactly the same thing. I’m against this transfer the same way I was against Cavani, Sanchez, Casemiro, Matic, Ronadlo, Zlatan. I guess you can still get a really good season or two out of players 29-30 whatever but it’s just as likely to fail hard medium term. I’d rather we got two players like Sesko or Ferguson or greenwood if he comes back and then just let them battle it out for the next few years while the rest of the team settles/develops and is rejuvenated with top young and hungry players.
I wouldn't exactly call overpaying for a striker that's banned for 4 months smart business. Nor is paying 50m quid for a guy from the Austrian league. Also when you compare the sure bets and the risks we took on players with massive potential, guys like Varane and Casemiro are infinitely more important to this team than Martial, Sancho, Antony have shown to be, who we gambled big on because of age and future.
Kane has just scored 30 goals for a Spurs team with no creativity whatsoever. We have the most productive number 10 in terms of chance creation in the league and Eriksen, with whom he had a great relationship in the past.
How would that even work? If a club buys a player from another how would they do it without disclosing?At least we disclose all of ours
There are various additional fees on top of the transfer fee. For example with Haaland, he had a release fee so it seems they got him on the cheap however there is also the hefty agent fee they paid. It will all come out in these 115 charges.
How exactly would you press high when your first trigger won't even participate , we already saw with Ronaldo how much it impacted our press and team dynamics .
How do you know how much they paid the agent?
Fair point. But Kane is ETH number one target so maybe he has a plan for him
The figure has been banded around but The Athlethic reported it as £34m.
I hope not , but if we get Kane and extend De Gea then I would have serious doubts about direction ETH wants to take United .
We do want to compete but we aren't going to. We would need to cram a decade's worth of good signings (based on our usual success ratio with recruitment) into the next couple of summers if we want to compete any time soon. That's the reality.
I don't disagree but what does Sabitzer have to do with anything? He's on loan and I hope to god we aren't stupid enough to actually buy him.
I think we will buy him, is why I added him to the list.
but it's not just about next season. it's about the seasons going forward. We are a few years away from challenging for the title even with Harry Kane, by that point, Kane is going to be passed his prime and we would need to spend another 100 million to buy another striker.
I don't think you can really spend 120-130 million on a player if you're not confident he can play at the EPL level. And I don't like the idea of putting all our eggs in one basket as far as strikers go.
That’s an incredibly negative approach. We are definitely not that far off competing. Even if we cant quite close the gap to City over a full league season with one big signing, what if City crash and burn early in the CL next season? There is no other side in Europe currently that far ahead of us, if we add one of the world’s best CFs leading the line.
As another poster has said, Kane is 2nd top PL scorer, has scored 12 more PL goals than Rashford, and has scored in more PL games than Haaland…in THAT Spurs team!!!
I agree, I think it's a bad policy, even with Qatari gift cards. Imagine what Brighton could do with our resources, for example. We have the resources, even without the Qataris, so why can't we put together a beautiful machine like the way Brighton plays (when they are on song)?
The trouble is half the forwards we are linked to who are severely below that level of quality are still being quoted at £60m too. Then the £40m you save might buy us another player but even then of what level, position and quality? For example is Rabiot on a free and Kane for £100m any worse than the combination of £100ms worth of two players you could pick out?
No it’s a realistic approach of where we are.
He'd definitely score plenty of goals next season.
An interesting point about the possibility of Kane cannibalizing goals that others would score, but I'm not sure of that. Under the present no circumstances let's take a look at our players who are expected to score goals.
Yes, all those goals we are scoring from penalties (2) and corners (1 I think but someone may correct me) will be taken away by having a CF who consistently wins penalties and scores poacher type goals from set pieces.
