I thought he did, but I haven’t found anything so I guess I remembered it wrong.
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I disagree, cant understand why people are talking about him as back up to Eriksen. He was Chelseas player of the season two years ago and instrumental in them winning a champions league. That doesnt guarantee anything....i mean so was Mata and though I liked him and he was out of position he was never close to the player we signed in his time here...but Eriksen has a 6/10 season on here, there were huge concerns when he got injured for a period, Sabitzer came in who was very average and Fred the player you are slating also had a suprising brief run of form.....we didnt miss Eriksen much at all.
Mount starts over Erkisen without a doubt, his legs have good and he cant press or defend, he offers an alternative to Fernandes at number 10 and the ability to play on both flank.
Also people slating him having an awful season and not even makign Chelseas team....they have left him out of the side due to his refusal to sign a new contract....which is totally different to an awful season.
I am not even a big fan of Mount. For England he got picked too much when there were other players with that bit of magic should have been in ahead of him. And if we are talking £50m I think there are players offer the same as Mount and cost less on the continent, much less. So personally its only the being ENglish makes him a huge target.
But most of the major sides in the premiership have had a lot of interest in Mount, the "awful season" and "adds depth, being better than McFred", think both statements are way wide of the mark personally
His best attribute is in half turns. And in a 3 flat midfield.
But if we plan to play him with Bruno in the team then our problems will persist. Especially recycling of the football, getting overrun and being physically overpowered.
But if ETH wants to faze out Bruno then, it's a very perfect calculated move. I know it will cause trouble here but a Case, Caicedo, Mount midfield is absolutely perfect and title winning midfield but a Case, Caicedo, Bruno midfield will be overrun in 5-7 games in a season making it a susceptible to collapse.
The issue is the club and the fan base is not ready to ship out Bruno to achieve a better midfield structure and control.
As it is getting Mount, it won't solve an issue because with Bruno in the team we need a absolute peak quality midfield who can do atleast 3 main jobs.
1. Doesn't lose ball anyhow.- Bruno does this in every game. We can't afford 2 lose ball midfielders.
2. Who is press resistant and physically elite. - Bruno is the easiest player in our midfield to diposses a football. We need a better midfielder in this regard, having 2 'soft' midfielders will be suicidal. (read Eriksen)
3. A ball carrying midfielder. - Bruno can not run with the ball through the park. Bruno can not dribble to save his life. He usually releases the ball almost instantly he gets it, thus the high turnover and lose passes.
Mount alone cannot solve the 3 main issues we have with Bruno in the team. Casemiro came but still we are being overrun and getting hammered just like we were during McFred Era.
Only a midfield post Bruno will things begin to change as sad as it is to say it.
But if we plan to play him with Bruno in the team then our problems will persist. Especially recycling of the football, getting overrun and being physically overpowered.
But if ETH wants to faze out Bruno then, it's a very perfect calculated move. I know it will cause trouble here but a Case, Caicedo, Mount midfield is absolutely perfect and title winning midfield but a Case, Caicedo, Bruno midfield will be overrun in 5-7 games in a season making it a susceptible to collapse.
The issue is the club and the fan base is not ready to ship out Bruno to achieve a better midfield structure and control.
As it is getting Mount, it won't solve an issue because with Bruno in the team we need a absolute peak quality midfield who can do atleast 3 main jobs.
1. Doesn't lose ball anyhow.- Bruno does this in every game. We can't afford 2 lose ball midfielders.
2. Who is press resistant and physically elite. - Bruno is the easiest player in our midfield to diposses a football. We need a better midfielder in this regard, having 2 'soft' midfielders will be suicidal. (read Eriksen)
3. A ball carrying midfielder. - Bruno can not run with the ball through the park. Bruno can not dribble to save his life. He usually releases the ball almost instantly he gets it, thus the high turnover and lose passes.
Mount alone cannot solve the 3 main issues we have with Bruno in the team. Casemiro came but still we are being overrun and getting hammered just like we were during McFred Era.
Only a midfield post Bruno will things begin to change as sad as it is to say it.
We cannot throw £50million at a squad player, he certainly isn't a starter here. Yet again it feels like we're being left behind when top talents like Caicedo, Rice, Mcallister go to our rivals and we get Joe Average. Reminds me of the sort of mediocre transfers we made under the previous regime. We're better than bloody Mount and if we're not, we're not challenging City any time soon.
But we've also been linked with Rabiot and Rice who also have the profile of 8s.
There's nothing obvious about it at all.
How can you be certain he's not being brought in to replace the vacant spots left by Sabitzer and VDB.
He might be brought in as an 8 but my point is at this stage there's no way of knowing that for sure especially when we haven't finished our buying for the summer.
Agreed. Will be interesting to see how we use him if he comes here.
He’s supposedly not someone they want to sell though? He’s the one not signing a renewal as far as I’m aware.
Mixed feelings with this one. Where do people see him operating best? I know he's quite versatile around the midfield, but interested to hear thoughts on where we may see him play the most.
Awful, awful signing if it's for anything north of £40m.
Especially if the general consensus around the transfer budget is right.
Especially if the general consensus around the transfer budget is right.
We missed the Eriksen of early season. He faded somewhat before he was injured and never got back up to speed after his injury but his calmness on the ball was always evident (until he got too knackered to find or make space for himself). We miss a player as good as we think Eriksen is / was.
I am surprised he had time to do this rather than his in depth trawling of FBref trying to find "hiddun gemzzz"
You make it sound so easy to sign those players,yes we could have rivalled scousers for Mac Allister but maybe he wanted them
Just don't bother supporting him then,awful to see the stick he is getting from many of our fanbase already but not surprised
Mac Allister is suddenly elite and we’re missing out on him and Mason Mount is Joe Average. ETH and Klopp who both want him, don’t know shit. This thread is downright hilarious 
He isn't a 'squad player' by any stretch
He's not getting any stick. The muted transfer is. As it obviously should.
Given the club was already set back years from signing mediocre homegrown players for 3x their value. We've got far bigger priorities this summer on a limited budget without clearing up Chelsea's mess for them to the tune of £80m
Is trawling meant to be trolling?
His content is darn good with attention to numbers
As it “obviously” should - and therein lies the attitude towards him already.He's not getting any stick. The muted transfer is. As it obviously should.
Given the club was already set back years from signing mediocre homegrown players for 3x their value. We've got far bigger priorities this summer on a limited budget without clearing up Chelsea's mess for them to the tune of £80m
Dont disagree with that, but for me the majority of his creative performances came in game we were n control of, I think even i nhis early time here, there were plenty of times he was caught on the ball or found wanting defensively.....but stats and a shiny pass or decisive moment....its easily forgotten.
Persoally think he has been "ok" this season, but people saying he shouldnt be the starting number next season at all, he shouldnt have been this season, we overspent transfer wise in other areas massively and as I said originally, Mount isnt a bad signing at all, but I do feel for a player with a year on his contract left £50/60m would be crazy as there are other players not in similar situations that cost little more than half that fee, we shouldnt be paying over £40m for him, otherwise we should be looking elsewhere....but still feel he offers more than Eriksen at the begginging of the season and certainly more than Eriksen now, who for me, isnt just form, his legs are going, he almsot appears like he knows it too, maybe wrong but i dont think he gives us much next season regardless of our sigings this summer
I just hope this is all a big WUM.
Yeah, some people are so blinkered and negative. I presume they think EtH is a complete idiot with no clue what a good player is and no clue how to develop and integrate one. For someone that stupid, he’s been doing okay so far.
No one is perfect. ETH got Antony and Wout too, he isn't infallible
I think Eriksen was very important to how we played and was the reason we were able to control games. But I agree it looks like his legs have dropped off and I also agree he won’t improve next year, I think he’ll be reduced to cameos.
Wout was an emergency loan and did some sort of job. Jury still out on Antony but he’s done a very good job of getting the ball up the pitch and retaining possession, needs to show more but he’s an important player for us.
But yeah, EtH is very far from perfect, that’s fair comment.
He’d gladly sign a renewal if it paid him his market rate. I suspect this is a first round to establish his wages value to Chelsea’s owners, as a bargaining chip. Which is fair.
He’s still on one of the lowest wages in the league (relatively). He signed it while still at Derby and has had no increase.
Unfortunately, Chelsea are fcuked with FFP and probably won’t match the wages on offer elsewhere as his sale value is pure profit and benefits the club massively in that space.
Feel a little sorry for him tbf. He’d gladly stay there forever.
And like many said, jury is still out on Antony, I can't believe many already painted him as failure, the lack of patience these days in a fan is mind blowing.
And no one is saying he is infallible, stop going from one extreme to another, having a little bit of faith in new manager doesn't mean you think he is perfect and doesn't make mistakes.
Writing Antony off already. Jeez.
His content is crap and ONLY focuses on numbers. He thinks of himself as a technical scout but I guarantee you he is laughed at by people in those circles.
I guess you watched him a lot more than me but I always felt he was never the same after his injury Vs Bayern. I know the status suggest otherwise in 11/12 but he did a significant part of his scoring in the first few games if I remember rightly. I do remember being utterly horrified when we were linked with him in 2013 and equally surprised you were steadfastly refusing.
The worry I have with Mount is he has been flogged in the most unique/intense football scheduling probably ever, and not only that he hasn't had a proper break since he went on loan to Derby, but ofcourse with our form last season it's pretty hard if not impossible to work out if it's more us or him.
But if that's not the case you have a very good system player if you utilize him correctly, he'd never be the star man but by equal measure can compliment said stars well, a bit like Pedro at Barcelona in that sense. I think Ten Hag has had his eye on him ever since he was on loan at Vittese so I'd imagine that has played a significant part in United becoming Mason's prefered destination.
Aargh thanks for the additional info/context. I wasn’t 100% sure why he wanted leave. Just assumed something was happening in the background or he lost his starting place. Then heard Poch actually wants to keep him but he’s refusing to sign.
How is it not an opinion? I don't want it to happen at the price being reported. That was pretty clear if you read my post. You have made a choice to not question anything and see the club ripped off time and time again.
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Some people in this thread are very odd or living in 00's, in a world where Georgino Rutter costs almost 40 mill and Mason Mount isn't worth more strange behaviours imo
Exactly.Mac Allister is suddenly elite and we’re missing out on him and Mason Mount is Joe Average. ETH and Klopp who both want him, don’t know shit. This thread is downright hilarious
I think you're forgetting Lingard had a spell of scoring great goals too.
And you may be surprised that their records are fairly similar.
Total appearances & goals
MOUNT 281-58
LINGARD 318-58
Main difference is that Lingard took ages to become any sort of regular here, and had a couple of dodgy last 2 years, whilst Mount was hitting his stats younger.
Mac Allister is suddenly elite and we’re missing out on him and Mason Mount is Joe Average. ETH and Klopp who both want him, don’t know shit. This thread is downright hilarious
Yep, you're right.
Both Chelsea and England fans have never ever moaned at him being on the starting lineup and he'll be an absolute major success here.
As it “obviously” should - and therein lies the attitude towards him already.
We've had the 'pretending a bad transfer on paper is good' enough in the last few years, everyone is too fatigued to keep the pretence up for another one.
When did Lingard ever get 11 goals and 16 assists in a season? In his best season he wasn’t even close to that.
Half the people wanted Rashford sold last year. Fans moaning means zilch to me.
13 pages of absolute nothing, you love to see it.
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