Time to dis-Mount
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Chelsea can suck my nuts. We should keep Fred for another year and let him go for free next year. We lose out on. 20m sale value but save more on MM transfer fee even after his sign on bonus.
ETH needs to pull his finger out and find a young player from somewhere to fill the gap. Chelsea being stupid with the transfer of a lad who's dead set on leaving next year.
MM should kick up a fuss at the club to force a move over to us. Do a Bart Simpson and walk around banging pots and pans. Maybe he should park his car in front of TB's or whoever to piss them off.
ETH needs to pull his finger out and find a young player from somewhere to fill the gap. Chelsea being stupid with the transfer of a lad who's dead set on leaving next year.
MM should kick up a fuss at the club to force a move over to us. Do a Bart Simpson and walk around banging pots and pans. Maybe he should park his car in front of TB's or whoever to piss them off.
Regarding the bolded part, do you want us to pay whatever these clubs ask without any negotiations? Barcelona had financial issues and they still do, that they covered up with some bullshit "levers" but we still managed to agree a fee.
It was that **** who wanted to continue simping for Barcelona even after they tried their hardest to get rid of him. The issue with that saga was us wasting basically the whole transfer window without getting any indications that the player wanted to join us.
We should absolutely pull out at this stage now. We will look like right mugs if we still agree to meet Chelsea after very publicly announcing that the third bid was our last bid(55m is already overpaying a bit).
So what exactly have Murtough and Arnold said in the past that's crap?
Not at all. All the speculation for all that time was how he would improve our midfield. He failed but found another role in another position
Chelsea are intent to pull our pants down if we are to get this deal done. 55m should be last offer - player wants the move and out of contract in June. If we pay 63m inc add ons we’re sending a clear message that we can be fleeced.
“No one can have educated opinions on football! Everyone here is just a muppet! United know better than anyone!”
And then people are frustrated when we spank 80m on Antony just for him to turn out a mid table winger even though many in that thread voiced the same concerns we are now voicing with Mount (overpriced, limited skillset, underwhelming metrics)
I’m just reminding you he was also used in these same positions at Bayern. Maybe he was a failed transfer that’s not an argument for me but his role at United was very similar to what it was at Bayern.
Bet Chelsea want comfort that we dont interfer with Caicedo.
Pathetic. Putting news out that if the last bid gets rejected we walk away, now not walking away and discussing in person. It’s like we want to get bent over every transfer window. We could have used this transfer saga as a precedent that we wont be paying silly money.
I think they are trying to replace Mount with Caicedo. Trying to milk as much as possible for Mount so they don’t have to shell out for Caicedo.
Thanks, I have missed that.
I don't put too much value in Ornstein's transfer talk but I understand why it is so widely believed.
Thanks, that's me reading diagonally. You are correct, it is clearly stated.
Decline meeting. Offer on table. Final.
They will need to sell if they are signing Caicedo. It’s just a waiting game. MM needs to throw toys out of pram.
They will need to sell if they are signing Caicedo. It’s just a waiting game. MM needs to throw toys out of pram.
Why would he? He their academy graduate.
He has been training at Chelsea's academy since he was 4 years old. He has been playing seriously for them for nearly 18 years now.
If the guy throws toys out of the pram to leave the club that has basically been his entire life till date, I wouldn't want him within Manchester's 100-mile radius.
Really don't want us to sign him, so hopefully the club walks away now to make a statement.
so true. They already sold several players, including Kovacic to City, with no fuss. Teams do that to us because there is a clear perception that United can get dragged to this kind of debates around fees.
on top of that, is Mount really worth 50+ million anyway? I do not think so especially when thinking about what role he’ll have at United. Surely not a #10, we have Bruno there and it doesn’t make sense to pay this much for back up. Is he a CM? No he is not. Are we paying this much to bring in a player and adjust his position? No thanks, i’d rather we pay this much to buy an established CM
We should start bidding for Caicedo then
Good stuff. Go and sign someone else!
If Mount had 3/4 years left on his contract I would still think £55m plus add ons was expensive. He doesn’t start for Chelsea anymore, heck even Southgate’s love affair has stopped and guess what England can finally score goals again.
He isn’t worth the money, simple as that. United need to stop this tunnel vision approach to transfers. Yet again I sit here wondering what our scouts are paid for as they never come up with anything. Other than the fact Mount has one year on his contract and there was a perception we could get him for £25-35m I can’t see why United would have bothered. To desperately need a ST and GK and see us potentially wasting over £60m on Mount is a depressing start to the transfer window.
He isn’t worth the money, simple as that. United need to stop this tunnel vision approach to transfers. Yet again I sit here wondering what our scouts are paid for as they never come up with anything. Other than the fact Mount has one year on his contract and there was a perception we could get him for £25-35m I can’t see why United would have bothered. To desperately need a ST and GK and see us potentially wasting over £60m on Mount is a depressing start to the transfer window.
Their estimation of 80 for a player coming out of a bad season with 1 year left was madness. Their saying if he had a 3 years on the contract they would price him at Bellingham levels. They aren't the same level.
Its the same thing every year. The past 10 years have been rough.
There's no way they turn down £55m just to let him go on loan then leave on a free
It's not the scouts job to pursue recruitment or even decide targets .
So it wasn't all Woodward then, we just have a recruitment team that suffers from a tunnel vision syndrome as mentioned by a poster above, Chelsea are in a pickle so move the feck on and tell the player we just can't sign him on terms being demanded by the club. It's that simple and we have other issues where we can improve on.
Anorld is CEO he should see the ramifications of just going with the manager, last time we listened to him and we are stuck with a middling winger we bought for a king's ransom who we could lose for nothing if rumors out of Brazil are true. I love ETH but we can't keep allowing him to weaken our negotiating position and busting our transfer budgets on his obsessions with average players which later impact our ability to strengthen fully.
Whilst Mount is good he is not that special that we must fixate on him for a valuable portion of the window. Just move on because 55m is already too much.
Anorld is CEO he should see the ramifications of just going with the manager, last time we listened to him and we are stuck with a middling winger we bought for a king's ransom who we could lose for nothing if rumors out of Brazil are true. I love ETH but we can't keep allowing him to weaken our negotiating position and busting our transfer budgets on his obsessions with average players which later impact our ability to strengthen fully.
Whilst Mount is good he is not that special that we must fixate on him for a valuable portion of the window. Just move on because 55m is already too much.
Time to walk away from the deal, if we cave in now and pay what they want then everytime we go for a player the selling club will set an unrealistic value and just expect us to pay it eventually. Need to break the cycle of overpaying even if it means missing out on a few players short term
Can they even tell if a 4 years old has a football talent?
Hope we walk, they are taking the p!ss.
He's a good player but not worth the price they are asking especially with a year left on his contract.
He's a good player but not worth the price they are asking especially with a year left on his contract.
Right on and Mount isn't a true 'must have' that we willingly get our pants pulled down by fecking Chelsea. They have a strategic handicap on this, they must be bricking the FFP impact of losing him on a free let alone the impact of missing out on a big sale will have on their transfer designs this season and beyond so let them stew because no one is ever offering them close to 60m for Mount.
If manager wants the player 2 million is difference in valuation then I will give up 2 million but get the player manager wanted. Imagine if Mount stays and us get into cl place at the expense of United then that's unbearable situation.
The most optimum approach would be that we already put a pre-contract in place with him for signing next year on a free. This will send out a message to teams who want to fleece us.
What is likely to happen is a negotiation where Chelsea lower their price by a couple of million but still emerge as winners from this negotiation.
What is likely to happen is a negotiation where Chelsea lower their price by a couple of million but still emerge as winners from this negotiation.
Chelsea wanted over 80m didn't they? Now looks likely it'll get done for around 60 I think? So we're not paying it eventually, are we?
Walk away. Don't look back!
Imagine competing for a cl place with a united player in your dressing room, training and tactical discussions from january on. A pissed off, unmotivated player for the duration of the transfer window. You've turned down 55m for what is essentially a season long loan on a player that doesn't want to be there. Its a mental decision.If manager wants the player 2 million is difference in valuation then I will give up 2 million but get the player manager wanted. Imagine if Mount stays and us get into cl place at the expense of United then that's unbearable situation.
If rumours are true we're likely to pay around £20m less than the initial asking price with fans crying we're not walking away instead of 'caving in'
Win win. Chelsea continue to have their great PR and we walk away spending within our initial budget.
Reminds me of the Sancho deal which no one ever mentions was going to be over £100m.
What rumours from Brazil?
If Chelsea had set 100m asking price, would you be okay with us paying 80m?
It’s clear that Chelsea value him at around 65-70m, that’s why they quoting him at 80m. The main thing to note is that there is literally no one else bidding for Mount. And anyother club in the PL would walk away if they were quoted 65m.
He was doing up MG11. Allegedly..
No one else is bidding for him because he’s told everyone he’s going Manchester United.
How many clubs bid for Jude Bellingham.
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