Arsenal have been reported to be after Rice for most of the season.
Moises Caicedo | Chelsea agree £115M fee | signed for Chelsea
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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May be you are right but what i read was arsenal went out from caicedo race two three weeks ago.
Either they thought they would surely get rice or they knew caicedo agreed to join with us so went all in for rice.
If we can sell McT and Fred I can see us buying him
Not only those two, but arsenal and city weren't in for him either, much preferring to spunk all the funds on Rice. Its a bit telling for me. Good player, but maybe just a little overhyped.
But we might get FDJ and Mount !
John Obi Mikel literally held up our shirt and ended up sold to you guys.
I don't think any commitment on the part of the player was the issue. In all likelihood, we were never in and the spurious links in the media were simply to pressure you into selling Mount.
Our priorities simply is elsewhere. We need a striker and new goalkeeper first after then another midfielder as Case deputy. But he's too expensive for that role.
This ridiculous argument again...
Resources are limited. It's absolutely valid to question how the club allocates its finances.
same situation last year every year. I think the quote was”if the manager want a player we will have the finances necessary to get that player” they prove that with Anthony!!
Most of the arguments on here seems to be what y’all want rather what the manager want and need.
Is ETH really not interested in Caicedo? Should of bought him, told Mount to hold out until end of season and we would sign him on the free.
Feels bad seeing us funding their Caicedo transfer where we needed the player more
We've signed a better player who suits what Ten Hag wants more for less money. Feels great.
Good for you but I can see teams steamroll through us with that midfield.
In possession we were increasingly setting up like this in the second half of the season:
Given that's how we intend to set up, it's pretty clear why we favoured Mount over Caicedo. In this shape Caicedo belongs where Casemiro plays, not where our #8 does.
De Gea
CB - CB - Shaw
RB - Casemiro
Antony - Bruno - CF - #8 - Rashford
Some of us assumed we'd change that, but we haven't. Instead we've just upgraded that #8 spot.CB - CB - Shaw
RB - Casemiro
Antony - Bruno - CF - #8 - Rashford
Given that's how we intend to set up, it's pretty clear why we favoured Mount over Caicedo. In this shape Caicedo belongs where Casemiro plays, not where our #8 does.
Spoken exactly like someone who doesn't realise that last season Mason Mount continued his brilliant level out of possession by being in the
- 94th percentile for tackles in midfield.
- 93rd percentile for tackles in the attacking 3rd.
- 86th percentile for dribbles stopped.
- 92nd percentile for success in tackling dribbles.
- 99th percentile for shots blocked (literally the best midfielder in the league)
Above average on passes blocked, interceptions, clearances and pressures.
That is compared to all other Premier League midfielders. Mason Mount is excellent defensively without the ball, as is Casemiro. I'll bet you good money that us getting steamrolled off the ball is not something that happens very much next season.
You probably don't watch the lad and think he's a waify little attacking midfielder which is factually absurd. In fact having a player who can do that off the ball whilst also having technical ability that Caicido could only dream of screams as to why Mason Mount should be playing at a top team looking to dominate the ball far more. Signing Caicedo is what we would have done under Jose and lived to regret it.
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He could've played as the RB (as well as Casemiro's position) with Amad, Mainoo or Eriksen being used as the 8. We'll have to trust Dalot or AWB with that role instead.
So we could have played Caidedo at right back with Amad Diallo as one of the midfield 3?
Just out of interest, why would you want to do that?!
Jesus some of the opinions in here are baffling.
Are you alright? You want to use a £100m midfield player as a makeshift right back? Amazing
"ManUtd is funding Caicedo transfer" should be one is the dumbest takes in the summer.
of course there will be no word of Arsenal funding it with the Havertz deal either
Saudi are funding it tbf. All we've done is made it so this is a downgrade by taking a vastly superior midfielder off them.
We can't be spending 80m on Casemiro's understudy to be honest and I just don't see Caicedo as anything more good Defensive Midfielder or more of defensive no 8 . And unless we already think Casemiro is done at top level I don't feel the pressing need to get his readymade replacement rather get somebody who could grow into the role .
And I just don't believe pairing Caicedo and Casemiro would be great option very defensive set up for the team which struggles with creativity and goals , Mount might not be every body's cup of tea but he is more natural fit for how our team evolved last season may not agree with the ETH 's set up but it is what it is .
Well as he isn't a generational talent I wouldn't lose my sleep over it , we already have great DM and Caicedo level talent are always emerging in the Market hopefully we will find one even if we miss out on Caicedo .
A few posters have suggested buying Caicedo and playing as an RB. It's worth pointing out, he may have played well in that position a couple of times, but he has only played there 2 maybe 3 times as an absolute emergency when Lamptey, Veltman and Gross (our other emergency RB) were all out injured towards the end of the season.
Yeah it's pretty clear that's what he wants
that's what I want too, playing on the front foot
although I still want a DM as back-up to Case, surviving with Fred or McT there isn't a great option
I hope Chelsea do get him the £100m quoted. Would be the biggest waste of money since Cucarella.
I guess ETH thinks we need Mount more, who knows who out of you 2 is right.
Oh yeah as if managers have never ever gotten a transfer wrong.
You know in advance it's wrong?
I guess posters got transfers wrong from time to time too.
Not nearly as often as the caf have!
I don't think they will he'll be priced out of the move .
Well CAF experts have the luxury of just talking up the transfers they got right while slyly never mentioning the one get wrong on regular basis and the cycle continues .
Just to add we all are guilty of hyperbolic nonsense from time to time but some take to it real extremes .
What I mean is I'm not opposed to Mounts transfer. But I feel having only Casemiro as true defensive midfielder is a huge risk. We have seen how bad we were without him.
That's true, but I wonder if we would pay 100 million for Casemiro's backup.
At this point I would get Pavard to play that inverted RB role, and offer cover in CB. He is a good on the ball and solid defensively.
Don’t do it to yourself mate, I’m only just recovering from last years Frenkie pursuit.
There was a time on the Caf when someone suggested we play Fred at LB and Shaw in CM. Nothing surprises me anymore.
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