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Elon Musk | Owner of X

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I find it amusing how there’s still a huge number of people who pretend that they really trust Musk with this, despite virtually all the signs pointing to him having absolutely zero clue how to manage Twitter.
 

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Can someone explain to me what data scraping is and why that means people have to be limited to viewing X amount of tweets per day?
 

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Can someone explain to me what data scraping is and why that means people have to be limited to viewing X amount of tweets per day?
It usually refers to using bots or other scripts to automatically scan and/or download data from a website.

it doesn’t
 

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was working this morning. Not working now, rate limited or something:lol:
More ads on the timeline

Elon sucks
 

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Can someone explain to me what data scraping is and why that means people have to be limited to viewing X amount of tweets per day?
Data scraping is a big topic right now because of LLM like Chat GPT which derive intelligence by churning a large amount of data that is scrapped from the web by bots. It is similar to how search indexes like Google work but for LLMs, the dependency on actual content or data is huge. Now sites like Reddit and Twitter, are not happy that companies like Open AI are getting free access to their data and then getting value from tools like ChatGPT. This is also the reason behind recent Reddit API changes.
 

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Can someone explain to me what data scraping is and why that means people have to be limited to viewing X amount of tweets per day?
People were getting data from Twitter using their APIs. Which are sometimes provided for this very reason. Scraping from the actual website is very load intensive and also very difficult to guard against. Twitter paywalled their backend APIs, so people started scraping which probably affected Twitter's performance.
 

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@Eboue

Your post is just hating a billionaire for what billionaires do. Which is fair enough. That’s your perogative. As billionaires go, Musk’s likely legacy puts him miles ahead of almost all of his peers in terms of having a positive affect on the world. So it just comes across as a bit predictable and unfair to single him out for your bile. If you care about the future of the planet anyway.

So long as billionaires exist (and they’re not going away any time soon) the world needs more billionaires like him and less like the anonymous 1%ers locking down crazy fortunes for their progeny, without giving a shit about anyone else.
 

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@Eboue

Your post is just hating a billionaire for what billionaires do. Which is fair enough. That’s your perogative. As billionaires go, Musk’s likely legacy puts him miles ahead of almost all of his peers in terms of having a positive affect on the world. So it just comes across as a bit predictable and unfair to single him out for your bile. If you care about the future of the planet anyway.

So long as billionaires exist (and they’re not going away any time soon) the world needs more billionaires like him and less like the anonymous 1%ers locking down crazy fortunes for their progeny, without giving a shit about anyone else.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Musk is not even among the top 25 billionaire philanthropists. Furthermore, he's not giving anything useful back to society right now.
 

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Mine is working again now but I’m hesitant to stay on it in case it’s just that my limit has been reset :lol:
 

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@Eboue

Your post is just hating a billionaire for what billionaires do. Which is fair enough. That’s your perogative. As billionaires go, Musk’s likely legacy puts him miles ahead of almost all of his peers in terms of having a positive affect on the world. So it just comes across as a bit predictable and unfair to single him out for your bile. If you care about the future of the planet anyway.

So long as billionaires exist (and they’re not going away any time soon) the world needs more billionaires like him and less like the anonymous 1%ers locking down crazy fortunes for their progeny, without giving a shit about anyone else.
More billionaires like Musk? :lol:

The guy is a negative to society and humanity. He has the means to be a benefit and instead spunks it on owning a social media platform.
 

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@Eboue

Your post is just hating a billionaire for what billionaires do. Which is fair enough. That’s your perogative. As billionaires go, Musk’s likely legacy puts him miles ahead of almost all of his peers in terms of having a positive affect on the world. So it just comes across as a bit predictable and unfair to single him out for your bile. If you care about the future of the planet anyway.

So long as billionaires exist (and they’re not going away any time soon) the world needs more billionaires like him and less like the anonymous 1%ers locking down crazy fortunes for their progeny, without giving a shit about anyone else.
Let's not forget that he's a true man of the people and stands up for the little man against corrupt elites.
 

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@Eboue

Your post is just hating a billionaire for what billionaires do. Which is fair enough. That’s your perogative. As billionaires go, Musk’s likely legacy puts him miles ahead of almost all of his peers in terms of having a positive affect on the world. So it just comes across as a bit predictable and unfair to single him out for your bile. If you care about the future of the planet anyway.

So long as billionaires exist (and they’re not going away any time soon) the world needs more billionaires like him and less like the anonymous 1%ers locking down crazy fortunes for their progeny, without giving a shit about anyone else.
This is a dangerous game you're playing, friend. I played it myself not long ago.






He's certainly the greatest entrepreneur of our time and for me the biggest polymath in centuries.
 

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It’s no surprise to find that the Holy Qur’an states that paradise will smell of Musk.
 

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This is a dangerous game you're playing, friend. I played it myself not long ago.






He's certainly the greatest entrepreneur of our time and for me the biggest polymath in centuries.
first few pages of that thread are gold :lol:
 

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A Twittermeter to pay as you write/read would solve the sh*tposting/cesspit issue in disguise imho?
 

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I find it amusing how there’s still a huge number of people who pretend that they really trust Musk with this, despite virtually all the signs pointing to him having absolutely zero clue how to manage Twitter.
They're either too deep in it to admit they're wrong or they're true believers and cultish.
 

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A Twittermeter to pay as you write/read would solve the sh*tposting/cesspit issue in disguise imho?
Dickheads will pay to write shit far greater numbers than intelligent people will. It’s make it worse.

He’s successfully creating a right wing echo chamber. Once there’s a viable alternative, the adults will leave.

What’s funnier still is that the nutty right wing gobshites will move too. If their views go unchallenged they’ll move to a platform that sees people argue with them.
 

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Data scraping is a big topic right now because of LLM like Chat GPT which derive intelligence by churning a large amount of data that is scrapped from the web by bots. It is similar to how search indexes like Google work but for LLMs, the dependency on actual content or data is huge. Now sites like Reddit and Twitter, are not happy that companies like Open AI are getting free access to their data and then getting value from tools like ChatGPT. This is also the reason behind recent Reddit API changes.
People were getting data from Twitter using their APIs. Which are sometimes provided for this very reason. Scraping from the actual website is very load intensive and also very difficult to guard against. Twitter paywalled their backend APIs, so people started scraping which probably affected Twitter's performance.
I appreciate your responses, but I want you to know, I don’t know what the above in bold means :lol:

I think I need this explained in terms like I’m a 10 year old
It usually refers to using bots or other scripts to automatically scan and/or download data from a website.

it doesn’t
This is more my speed :lol:
 

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I appreciate your responses, but I want you to know, I don’t know what the above in bold means :lol:

I think I need this explained in terms like I’m a 10 year old

This is more my speed :lol:
Thanks for that explanation of what age level responses should be geared to. I am in the same boat!
 

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I appreciate your responses, but I want you to know, I don’t know what the above in bold means :lol:

I think I need this explained in terms like I’m a 10 year old

This is more my speed :lol:
LLM means large language models, basically ChatGPT. When ChatGPT answers your queries, it has learnt to model that answer, partly from the data it downloaded it from websites like reddit. Scrapping data from web basically involves hitting different web URLs and parsing all the text you can download through a web page to extract useful content.
 

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He's certainly the greatest entrepreneur of our time and for me the biggest polymath in centuries.
Entrepreneur I'd agree with, as long as we all accept he hasn't actually started a company and was born rich though. The recent washing of his history on that front is gross.

Not sure about polymath though, as he clearly didn't and still doesn't understand social media like twitter, let alone what the mid-higher aspects of SpaceX and Tesla do.


Best snake oil salesman of all time, that's a title he should get. I respect the level he has achieved at convincing people of anything, true genius in that aspect imo.
 

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I appreciate your responses, but I want you to know, I don’t know what the above in bold means :lol:

I think I need this explained in terms like I’m a 10 year old

This is more my speed :lol:
Thanks for that explanation of what age level responses should be geared to. I am in the same boat!
You know when you take a poster off the wall and some of the blutack is left? Well imagine taking all that blutack left and combining it into a huge ball, then giving it the the smartest child in the class to make a replica of the Sistine chapel.

Then deciding you don't like that child nor the scraps of tack, so you think the best way to combat it is to let them still take the blutack but just a tiny bit slower and hoping the problem goes away.
 

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The simplest way to describe scrapping is the action of collecting data from a webpage, generally through automation(robots).
 

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@Eboue

Your post is just hating a billionaire for what billionaires do. Which is fair enough. That’s your perogative. As billionaires go, Musk’s likely legacy puts him miles ahead of almost all of his peers in terms of having a positive affect on the world. So it just comes across as a bit predictable and unfair to single him out for your bile. If you care about the future of the planet anyway.

So long as billionaires exist (and they’re not going away any time soon) the world needs more billionaires like him and less like the anonymous 1%ers locking down crazy fortunes for their progeny, without giving a shit about anyone else.
:lol:
 

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LLM means large language models, basically ChatGPT. When ChatGPT answers your queries, it has learnt to model that answer, partly from the data it downloaded it from websites like reddit. Scrapping data from web basically involves hitting different web URLs and parsing all the text you can download through a web page to extract useful content.
Ahhhh… so the machine is learning to give answers & learning what to say / how to mimic human responses by reading Twitter & Reddit and the like (unless I’m reading that incorrectly)

Is Elon’s beef with this the fact that ChatGPT is profiting off of this learning?
You know when you take a poster off the wall and some of the blutack is left? Well imagine taking all that blutack left and combining it into a huge ball, then giving it the the smartest child in the class to make a replica of the Sistine chapel.

Then deciding you don't like that child nor the scraps of tack, so you think the best way to combat it is to let them still take the blutack but just a tiny bit slower and hoping the problem goes away.
So basically Elon is banging his head against the wall here. Seems par for the course for his tenure has ruler of the Twittersphere
First thing I learned as a HS teacher, know your audience. :)
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Ahhhh… so the machine is learning to give answers & learning what to say / how to mimic human responses by reading Twitter & Reddit and the like (unless I’m reading that incorrectly)

Is Elon’s beef with this the fact that ChatGPT is profiting off of this learning?
This is Elon's contention when he says he is worried about data scrappers. In reality, Twitter is probably not an important source of data for ChatGPT, Reddit much more so probably. But in general now all companies will start guarding their data with a lot more intent.