Pathetic fans booing Maguire

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Its something ive wondered about - why do we never win fluke Cls like liv vs Milan or Chelseas recent 1.
We only ever win where we are no doubt best itw.
We were outplayed by BM over 90 mins, but won in injury time when they had already subbed their best players and won the other because Terry slipped in the pen shootout, so you could say we fluked them. We certainly didnt stroll to winning them.
 

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No, because de gea had the class to know when moving was best for both parties.
No, he move because we offered him a lower contract and then we pulled it.
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he's cost us the sevilla game.

I don't really want to talk about a game we lost because we've lost it.
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I doubt it really bothered him, he has nothing to prove.
You think Maguire would have the balls to walk round old trafford/moss side?
I find that it's handy to stick to an argument for longer than an hour if you want it to be taken seriously.
 

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People saying its ok to boo are the ones that don't get why a bit of racist slurs hurt anyone or taking the piss out of some kid at school. It's just a joke right? Banter. Having a laugh. They shouldn't be so touchy should they, especially if they earn so much.
Booing fans are racists and hate kids..

People with toothbrush moustaches are nazis.
 

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Well it's not up to me to say if the fans who boo him are right or wrong but, when you earn millions per year and play for a top football club, things like this may happen. It's not a drama and I really don't think he's too bothered by that.
 

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I don’t want to attribute this to a nationality but in this case what is likely a large American fan base: they read and see things online (like curious children do when they want to find out about something more) and they copy. This is happening with football a lot in the last decade or so with them. They’ve probably seen memes, videos of jokes that have been made this side of the pond and they copy the behaviour. it’s their way of trying to “fit in” with the banter. But their humour isn’t the same as ours especially - it just comes out wrong and slightly cringe. And booing your own player is just not the right way to go about fitting in, in anyones books.
 

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We were outplayed by BM over 90 mins, but won in injury time when they had already subbed their best players and won the other because Terry slipped in the pen shootout, so you could say we fluked them. We certainly didnt stroll to winning them.
Yeah I get you but look at city vs inter this year..

I feel like we are always this year’s City getting in to a final than this years Inter.

We hardly get in to a final unless we are near perfection IMO and I always wonder why.

It’s something I wouldn’t be surprised changing under Ten Hag though - he got in to 2 finals in a single season under quite a rubbish squad & he nearly got Ajax in to a CL final too.
 

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It's a self fulfilling prophecy this Maguire stuff.

He plays badly for a couple of games, the meme's start, then he plays and people boo, it gets to him so he plays badly, so people boo him more. Now they just boo him even when he's not playing, and even when he comes on and plays well, he still gets booed.

I think its bollocks personally. Give the guy a break ffs.
 

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Never boo your own players unless they are convicted murderers. No person can be perfect. Maguire has always conducted himself with dignity...Well, on the pitch. He hasn't been bitching like Ronaldo or Henderson. He might not fit in with ETH plans but to boo one of our own players is cretinous
Diginty? I wouldnt classify Maguire his defending as dignified defending. Neither his Greece behaviour, his ear cupping and some of his clueless interviews. So no, i dont think he always conducted himself with diginity. He didnt cause any big media issues with stupid quotes.
 

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I don’t want to attribute this to a nationality but in this case what is likely a large American fan base: they read and see things online (like curious children do when they want to find out about something more) and they copy. This is happening with football a lot in the last decade or so with them. They’ve probably seen memes, videos of jokes that have been made this side of the pond and they copy the behaviour. it’s their way of trying to “fit in” with the banter. But their humour isn’t the same as ours especially - it just comes out wrong and slightly cringe. And booing your own player is just not the right way to go about fitting in, in anyones books.
Good post & this is why sometimes I believe going hard on players even whilst hidden behind the internet can effect players more than people think.

We all laugh at RAWK for their delusional support over average players but I do think it helps more than people might realize.

This was starting on Rashford last year & arguably lucky to have Ten Hag to help create some good form that shut up the ‘supporters’ up for a whilst - but you can see they are waiting sitting around Rashfords form like a hunter to their prey.
 

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Yeah I get you but look at city vs inter this year..

I feel like we are always this year’s City getting in to a final than this years Inter.

We hardly get in to a final unless we are near perfection IMO and I always wonder why.

It’s something I wouldn’t be surprised changing under Ten Hag though - he got in to 2 finals in a single season under quite a rubbish squad & he nearly got Ajax in to a CL final too.
Oh I get you, you mean getting there. Well we will have to see if TH can repeat it this season.
 

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Well it's not up to me to say if the fans who boo him are right or wrong but, when you earn millions per year and play for a top football club, things like this may happen. It's not a drama and I really don't think he's too bothered by that.
Why do people keep saying this? Oh he is on a lot of money he shouldn't be bothered. Like money makes you some kind of superhero. Look at Sancho and Deli Ali. It affects them. They are humans not fkn robots. Even if it doesnt do you think booing helps or hinders the team. The whole point of the fans is too support the team. Is booing helping? How? What benefit in the slightest bit does it have? Nothing. Its just fans being dicks for their own gratification. Fkng grow up.
And its not even about Maguire. Its about the club. As a fan you should do everything to help the team. What does booing do? Is it helping or hindering. Propbably hindering. Hence therefore you are a dick of a fan and you should go support City
 

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booing your own players is the the mark of a dickhead.
at least wait until he's sold, then boo the cnut as much as you want.
 

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The reason why fans booed Maguire is because of his performance level for United and have to be honest been subpar and even woeful at times. Many people myself included think he should leave this summer, does this justify booing probably not but it's part of the game, if fans are unhappy its 1 way to show their feelings.
 

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Trust me, he'll be affected by it. Only person in the dressing room getting that reaction and for what? Being stripped of the captaincy because he wasn't up to standard? Has he ever slandered the club in anyway? I certainly don't remember it.

I understand anyone who doesn't rate him as a player, they are entitled to their opinion about his abilities.

You've got a pretty sad life if you are going to a game with the intention of booing your own player though.
 

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We're overthinking this.

If you boo one of your own players you're a sad bastard, end of.
 

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Whether it's right or wrong is irrelevant. It's something that's not acceptable in UK footballing culture.
 

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Very different reactions to one of our players being booed during the preseason abroad to being booed off the home Old Trafford pitch on the final day of the season a few years ago it seems.

I remember quite a large portion of this forum justifying the latter...
 

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You cannot control what the common idiot does so no point wasting any energy on it.

Maguire's performances over a long period has made him the scapegoat he is these days.

In the real world, if you are bought in on a huge salary to do a job and you fail to get even close to the standard required then you are removed from your job.

Hard to feel too sorry for him for the stick he takes when he's on such massive wages for doing very little.

Give me 200k a week you can get your pitchforks out and call me a witch for all i care.
 

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A study needs to be done into the type of people that incessantly feed into the negative circlejerk around Maguire.

It's a weird obsession where even fans who support teams with much shitter players in worse leagues even pile on him.

What has Maguire actually done to deserve this? He's not been a good signing but he's hardly anywhere near the worst performing player we've had post SAF. Sure he represents terrible value but we've finished in reasonbale league positions with him starting. I can't even think of any off pitch justifications. The incident in Greece is the only controversy I can think of and there have been players involved in much worse.

He lost his position, lost the captaincy and people still get on his case. He can't even make an instagram comment on a players profile without his mentions being filled with abuse.

He deserves better from us tbh. He's taken his beating silently and the one time he responded after the England goal he was treated like a war criminal.

I can only imagine how difficult it must be dealing with this in private. The thing I hate most is if something bad did happen to him, it will be the same cnuts who have been spewing hate at him that will be sending him well wishes etc.
 

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It's all a bit pointless. He probably ends up losing confidence even more, that makes him likely to make more mistakes and that then affects both the team and the chances of actually selling him.

I do think it's sad that supporters have contributed to making him an online meme who's constantly abused. That's kind of expected these days from opposition fans but we should back our own rather than join in. It's fine to criticise him and want him to leave but people go way over the top.
 

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A study needs to be done into the type of people that incessantly feed into the negative circlejerk around Maguire.

It's a weird obsession where even fans who support teams with much shitter players in worse leagues even pile on him.

What has Maguire actually done to deserve this? He's not been a good signing but he's hardly anywhere near the worst performing player we've had post SAF. Sure he represents terrible value but we've finished in reasonbale league positions with him starting. I can't even think of any off pitch justifications. The incident in Greece is the only controversy I can think of and there have been players involved in much worse.

He lost his position, lost the captaincy and people still get on his case. He can't even make an instagram comment on a players profile without his mentions being filled with abuse.

He deserves better from us tbh. He's taken his beating silently and the one time he responded after the England goal he was treated like a war criminal.

I can only imagine how difficult it must be dealing with this in private. The thing I hate most is if something bad did happen to him, it will be the same cnuts who have been spewing hate at him that will be sending him well wishes etc.
Debatable. Given his price tag he is in the top 5 for sure.
 

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Further proof we alongside Arsenal have the worst fanbase in the Premier League.

Imagine booing your own player in a friendly game? :confused: unheard before the social media era..

I'm just glad most of these plastics will never ever get the chance to step foot in Old Trafford. Those Yanks, these internet reds are absolute clueless fans arent they?

Most sound like they only started watching football five years ago, have barely kicked a football in their lives and their only knowledge of the game is based and largely influenced by their daily intake of the clowns at The United Stand and the like
 

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Why do people keep saying this? Oh he is on a lot of money he shouldn't be bothered. Like money makes you some kind of superhero. Look at Sancho and Deli Ali. It affects them. They are humans not fkn robots. Even if it doesnt do you think booing helps or hinders the team. The whole point of the fans is too support the team. Is booing helping? How? What benefit in the slightest bit does it have? Nothing. Its just fans being dicks for their own gratification. Fkng grow up.
And its not even about Maguire. Its about the club. As a fan you should do everything to help the team. What does booing do? Is it helping or hindering. Propbably hindering. Hence therefore you are a dick of a fan and you should go support City
In my opinion the fans who are doing this, think that they are helping the club by determining the booed player to leave the club sooner rather than later, in this case because the player is deemed not good enough to fit the shirt.
Also as a fan, you have the right to express your gratitude, joy or disapprovement of an action or a player of the club, fans aren't robots either programmed to cheer and sign without having any emotion or opinion.
I am not saying that Maguire deserves to be bood, I personally wouldn't do that only for on pitch performances, but others may be more demanding or ruthless than me.
 

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His mistakes and generally poor play are only a part of the reason he gets stick. If he'd have shown a little humility over the years it would have gone a long way. To churn out some of those performances and then to cup your ears, blame the strikers, tells us you've nothing to prove...you're only making a rod for your own back. Even if you don't agree with the booing you have to acknowledge he owns a part of this too.
 

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It is common day in office for Barca and Real players. Few bad games there and you are booed no matter are you best player, legend or a young player.
 

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Debatable. Given his price tag he is in the top 5 for sure.
Yes value for money he hasn't been good but overall performance vs expectations there are many that have been far worse.

Sanchez, Di Maria, Schweinstiger, Schneiderlin, Memphis, Sancho have all been worse.
 

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The poor guy needs a transfer. He's better than he looks at the moment but his head is gone because our fanbase keeps letting him know how unwelcome he is while he gets memed into oblivion on social media.
 

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In my opinion the fans who are doing this, think that they are helping the club by determining the booed player to leave the club sooner rather than later, in this case because the player is deemed not good enough to fit the shirt.
Also as a fan, you have the right to express your gratitude, joy or disapprovement of an action or a player of the club, fans aren't robots either programmed to cheer and sign without having any emotion or opinion.
I am not saying that Maguire deserves to be bood, I personally wouldn't do that only for on pitch performances, but others may be more demanding or ruthless than me.
Nonsense. Do you have a right to have a go at a homeless person because you feel its good for society? Get a fkn job! What about immigrants? Shout at the wait staff that fkd up your order? No. Its just your opinion. You are a civilized person. You dont go around just shouting at people. Sure you have the right to your own opinion but in the right place, right time and right forum. You dont have the right to just start shouting like a fkn barbarian because you don't like something
 

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It is common day in office for Barca and Real players. Few bad games there and you are booed no matter are you best player, legend or a young player.
Doesn't make it right and let's not pretend like United fans haven't booed club legends before. I remember Giggs getting booed which was an absolute disgrace.
 

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It was utter stupidity when it happened last preseason. I was at the games in Melbourne and it was just ridiculous. Absolutely nothing could come of it except destroying the confidence of a player who was already struggling for it.

This season I can understand it a bit more. I'm certainly not saying I agree with it, but it probably does make a bit more sense this time since it seems the club would likely be open to selling him and the reports are largely that he doesn't want to leave. Still ridiculous of course, just not quite as ridiculous as last year.
 

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Doesn't make it right and let's not pretend like United fans haven't booed club legends before. I remember Giggs getting booed which was an absolute disgrace.
I am not saying now what is right or wrong but English fans must realise that booing to own players (for whatever reasons) is "normal" in the rest of the world. English football culture is just completely different regarding that (and many other stuff).
In England team can lose 5:0 and fans will not boo them. In any other league, you lose at home against weak opponent and you will be booed.

I remember 4 or 5 years ago when full Bernabeu booed Ronaldo. After the game he said; "This never happened in Manchester and I don't like it."
England is just different regarding that. Gentlemen :)
 
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Similar thing happened a few years back when Fellaini played for us. ‘Fans’ that like others have said will only go to a couple of matches in their lives booing players is and always will be stupid.
Half of the fans booing him probably begged for a picture with him after the match.
And probably bought the wigs as well
 

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He's a player we spent way too much on who isn't good enough.

That's it.

He's not slagged the club off, he's not done anything despicable off the pitch. He's just a fairly mediocre player.

Absolutely ridiculous to be booing him. In a fecking friendly too.
 

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Very different reactions to one of our players being booed during the preseason abroad to being booed off the home Old Trafford pitch on the final day of the season a few years ago it seems.

I remember quite a large portion of this forum justifying the latter...
Booing after a poor performance is fine, nothing wrong with that, going to a match to boo a specific player before they've even had any kind of performance isn't