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Pathetic fans booing Maguire

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I guess I was presupposing intelligence but, if you honestly didn’t understand what I wrote, and if you accidentally chose to misrepresent my words, then I apologise unreservedly for knocking you off your high horse and hope you get your clown shoes on and get back to the circus unharmed.

Stay safe my friend, just be your funny self and keep us laughing.

PS. I wasn’t looking for a debate. I posted a statement which you then attacked because you either couldn’t understand it or because you were looking for an argument. So tootle along like a good clown and be funny with someone else eh?
That sort of reply is why you might find yourself in the noobies for a long time.
 

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I guess I was presupposing intelligence but, if you honestly didn’t understand what I wrote, and if you accidentally chose to misrepresent my words, then I apologise unreservedly for knocking you off your high horse and hope you get your clown shoes on and get back to the circus unharmed.

Stay safe my friend, just be your funny self and keep us laughing.

PS. I wasn’t looking for a debate. I posted a statement which you then attacked because you either couldn’t understand it or because you were looking for an argument. So tootle along like a good clown and be funny with someone else eh?
:lol: The irony!
If you want to waste your posts going down this blind alley, be my guest. I don't know if you're mixing me up with someone else. Take a breath and read my initial post if it helps.

To spell it out for you, I wasn't attacking your second point at all, or even disagreeing. I don't even recall you ever saying it was ok to boo Maguire, you said something along the lines of understanding if some fans chose to boo a player that couldn't be arsed to put an effort it, while you were not a "boo boy" yourself. I responded to that specific point to say Maguire doesn't actually fit that category. You accuse me of angst, but it's you who needs to settle down.
 

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That sort of reply is why you might find yourself in the noobies for a long time.
Yep. And frankly I don't even get why the fellow is whipping himself or herself into a frenzy by shadow boxing with no one at all.

I actually get the point myself around understanding why one might feel compelled to boo a player who plainly isn't applying himself. Just said that isn't Maguire, and the noob has promptly proceeded to spiral into a self-induced meltdown.
 

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I find the bloke thoroughly unlikeable. But, I personally wouldn't boo our own players. If people choose to boo Maguire, I wouldn't get upset over it, though. I do think the criticism is rather toxic at this point and it's obviously best for everyone if he leaves.

I've never rated him, didn't want him and I haven't enjoyed him being here. But some people are basically harassing the bloke at this stage, and it's gone way beyond just criticism.
 

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I find the bloke thoroughly unlikeable. But, I personally wouldn't boo our own players. If people choose to boo Maguire, I wouldn't get upset over it, though. I do think the criticism is rather toxic at this point and it's obviously best for everyone if he leaves.

I've never rated him, didn't want him and I haven't enjoyed him being here. But some people are basically harassing the bloke at this stage, and it's gone way beyond just criticism.
how does he know of fans displeasure without any expression (like booing)? By sending him telepathic thoughts??
 

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If you feel strongly enough to boo or insult someone you've never actually met in real life, because they aren't good enough in a sporting sense, then you need help in my opinion. If you boo or insult someone, again who you haven't met, who has have actually caused physical or sexual harm to someone then I will join in, even if they are our highest appearance maker or an excellent young player who knows where the goal is.

Harry Maguire isn't good enough to play for us imo but I have no malice towards the man. He's from Sheffield, probably grew up not liking us as a proud Yorkshireman would. He's shown nothing but respect to the club and has repeated how proud he was to be our captain and how proud he is to play for us.

Top level footballers are paid a fortune and have a life that millions would kill for, however, I can't think of many other platforms that can be more humiliating and hurtful. Being ridiculed 24/7 by fans of the club you play for aswell as the masses must be take its toll.
 

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If you feel strongly enough to boo or insult someone you've never actually met in real life, because they aren't good enough in a sporting sense, then you need help in my opinion. If you boo or insult someone, again who you haven't met, who has have actually caused physical or sexual harm to someone then I will join in, even if they are our highest appearance maker or an excellent young player who knows where the goal is.

Harry Maguire isn't good enough to play for us imo but I have no malice towards the man. He's from Sheffield, probably grew up not liking us as a proud Yorkshireman would. He's shown nothing but respect to the club and has repeated how proud he was to be our captain and how proud he is to play for us.

Top level footballers are paid a fortune and have a life that millions would kill for, however, I can't think of many other platforms that can be more humiliating and hurtful. Being ridiculed 24/7 by fans of the club you play for aswell as the masses must be take its toll.

So you've never boo any opponents that you've never met in real life? That's incredible.
 

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So you've never boo any opponents that you've never met in real life? That's incredible.
When I've been to OT, I've joined in to boo whoever the crowd are booing, as a laugh. I've probably immaturity booed a ref for booking one of our players, despite having every reason to, and booed an opposition player who scores against us. But I wouldnt insult these people.
 

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When I've been to OT, I've joined in to boo whoever the crowd are booing, as a laugh. I've probably immaturity booed a ref for booking one of our players, despite having every reason to, and booed an opposition player who scores against us. But I wouldnt insult these people.
Well, yeah. Most likely most of those people booing Maguire is just for fun also. There's no report of people hurling abuse on him during those tours, on and off the pitch. Like you said, Maguire hasn't actually made any criminal or indecent act, or even making any offensive remark during his time here. He's more of a meme.

I hope so.

But i do wonder how should fans showing displeasure on certain players/manager performance, and let that certain players/manager aware?
 
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What do you think it accomplishes?
performance evaluation? Just like in any professional world.

Even in free forum like this, you evaluate and post disagreement of other poster post. What do you think it accomplishes?
 

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Well, yeah. Most likely most of those people booing Maguire is just for fun also. There's no report of people hurling abuse on him during those tours, on and off the pitch. Like you said, Maguire hasn't actually made any criminal or indecent act, or even making any offensive remark during his time here. He's more of a meme.

I hope so.

But i do wonder how should fans showing displeasure on certain players performance, and let that certain players aware?
No report? Are you being serious? :lol:

Come on here, FB, Insta, twitter or any social media platform whenever he play, he gets slaughtered. Even when he doesn't play he still gets a torrent of abuse.
 

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No report? Are you being serious? :lol:

Come on here, FB, Insta, twitter or any social media platform whenever he play, he gets slaughtered. Even when he doesn't play he still gets a torrent of abuse.
I thought we're talking related to booing during that tour.
 

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I thought we're talking related to booing during that tour.
In the game against Dortmund they were booing Maguire before he even touched the ball and every time it was passed to him
 

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I thought we're talking related to booing during that tour.
I'm just talking in general mate. When I go to OT I never hear one of our players being booed by the masses. Go on the many social media platforms including this one and you see just how horrible it can be.
Football grounds in the UK are very forgiving compared to social media.

I have no issue with anyone saying Maguire isn't good enough to play for us. But to just insult him is nasty imo.
 

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I'm just talking in general mate. When I go to OT I never hear one of our players being booed by the masses. Go on the many social media platforms including this one and you see just how horrible it can be.
Football grounds in the UK are very forgiving compared to social media.

I have no issue with anyone saying Maguire isn't good enough to play for us. But to just insult him is nasty imo.
Agreed with that. Insult and abuse should be condemned, just like any undeserved bullying. On my defense, I rarely read any social media other than what's in the Caf.

Even in forum like this, we should try to be civil about not good enough players. Although those match threads and immediate post-match posts shouldn't be taken too serious, as sometimes emotions are still too high.
 
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In the game against Dortmund they were booing Maguire before he even touched the ball and every time it was passed to him
Sorry, I didn't notice that, mate. I thought the booing was just when he's ready to sub in. I hope those booing were just for fun. But it is really weird and disturbing that booing continued throughout the game.
 

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Why does nobody in the media admit the real reason fans boo Maguire is they feel he’s clinging on for financial reasons. He’s unwanted in a football sense and our 4 th choice CB shouldn’t be pulling in such wages. Fans aren’t exactly stupid.
 

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Sorry, I didn't notice that, mate. I thought the booing was just when he's ready to sub in. I hope those booing were just for fun. But it is really weird and disturbing that booing continued throughout the game.
I was watching on TV and you could hear it, and Maguire started the game so he wasn't subbed in, he played the first hour and came off for Johnny Evans in the 61st minute
 

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Maguire is ridiculous man don’t even get me started. That nonsensical statement he released when he was stripped of the arm band… when in fact he should have offered it up the moment he know he lost his starting position. Instead he’s made the Manager have to make this decision. Fans aren’t blind to all this. English fans tend to be quite loyal you really have to have royally screwed up for them to boo you.
 

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I was watching on TV and you could hear it, and Maguire started the game so he wasn't subbed in, he played the first hour and came off for Johnny Evans in the 61st minute
Ok now my mind was getting confused.
 

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No. I'm not against your post. In fact, I'm in 100% agreement.

I was just using your post as a base for discussion.
Yeah, but I said that although I personally wouldn't boo him, I understand why others might. I think the whole booing thing has been wildly blown out of proportion, but some of the abuse directed at Maguire has been ridiculous, on a whole.

If there's a player that knows he's not wanted, then it's definitely Maguire. I think the criticism and people saying they want him gone is fair game, but some of the vitorial has been distasteful, to say the least. As I said, I don't like the bloke and want him gone, but it's the personal abuse that's gone too far.
 

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Maguire is a throwback centre half and is not suited to the modern way of playing. He definitely hasn't been the same since the business when he was on holiday and was arrested for assaulting a police officer and attempted bribery of a court official. He's back in court in Feb next year. Having all that on his mind won't help him. Still, not sure any United player should be booed.
 

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Maguire is a throwback centre half and is not suited to the modern way of playing. He definitely hasn't been the same since the business when he was on holiday and was arrested for assaulting a police officer and attempted bribery of a court official. He's back in court in Feb next year. Having all that on his mind won't help him. Still, not sure any United player should be booed.
So is Lindeolof. And Varane's ability on the ball makes him poorly suited to playing out of the back. Maguire actually has a really good passing range.

The truth is not that it's about playing style. Maguire at his best would have slotted into Guardiola's City (hence why he was targetted) just as well as EtH's United. Not to pick you out, but I see the same points parroted all the time with no though to them other than copy-and-pasting. Hell, our manager has just admitted he wants us to be a transition team. Maguire would be great for that with his ability to switch the play over to one of the wingers.

It's about the fact Maguire's confidence has hit rock bottom for various reasons and there's no way back for him now. The fans share some of the blame for that. He needs to leave for that alone.
 

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Maguire is a throwback centre half and is not suited to the modern way of playing. He definitely hasn't been the same since the business when he was on holiday and was arrested for assaulting a police officer and attempted bribery of a court official. He's back in court in Feb next year. Having all that on his mind won't help him. Still, not sure any United player should be booed.
Not sure how much impact that actually had considering the best form of his career happened in the season following that. Sure he started poorly in the first month or two but in the second half of that season he was actually great, one of the best defenders in the league. It was the following season where it all fell apart.
 

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Maguire is a throwback centre half and is not suited to the modern way of playing. He definitely hasn't been the same since the business when he was on holiday and was arrested for assaulting a police officer and attempted bribery of a court official. He's back in court in Feb next year. Having all that on his mind won't help him. Still, not sure any United player should be booed.
How far we going back ,the stone age ?
 

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He’s been booed at the Aviva after that Mistake. Although it was drowned out by applause by the majority
 

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So much for Ireland being a welcoming country :p

I don’t know about anyone else but I’d rather just treat a player with indifference rather than boo them based on performance. No applauding or cheering if they’re getting subbed off or on or getting their name read out. No chants about them. Booing is reserved for players who do deliberately dickish things on or off the pitch.
 

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They got conned into watching him, they have the right to boo him when he plays like that.
 

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If only that'd get him out. Guy is way beyond delusion.
 

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If you feel strongly enough to boo or insult someone you've never actually met in real life, because they aren't good enough in a sporting sense, then you need help in my opinion. If you boo or insult someone, again who you haven't met, who has have actually caused physical or sexual harm to someone then I will join in, even if they are our highest appearance maker or an excellent young player who knows where the goal is.

Harry Maguire isn't good enough to play for us imo but I have no malice towards the man. He's from Sheffield, probably grew up not liking us as a proud Yorkshireman would. He's shown nothing but respect to the club and has repeated how proud he was to be our captain and how proud he is to play for us.

Top level footballers are paid a fortune and have a life that millions would kill for, however, I can't think of many other platforms that can be more humiliating and hurtful. Being ridiculed 24/7 by fans of the club you play for aswell as the masses must be take its toll.
As a fan you can boo/whistle/jeer anyone you want for any reason, you paid your money and got a ticket. What you can’t do is be homophonic/racist with those comments.

It drives me nuts when people say he wasn’t good enough for United, he was a sought after player when we signed him. He sadly has lost his form for a myriad of reasons.

I will wish him well once he has moved on, he is a symbol of a lost decade for the club where we performed dreadfully on the pitch and upstairs in management.