Was absolutely ridiculous we paid £80m
Maguire | he stays!
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Feck Woodward
Just part of the whole ridiculous narrative around Maguire, where it's not enough to absolutely slate his performances and ability, he also must be portrayed as an arrogant prick with zero self awareness as well.
Someone said on another thread that it's our fans who have driven this, and I completely agree.
More, we paid 80 mil in one go. No instalments, no clauses
Claret and Hugh is sensationalist garbage so take that tweet with a pinch of salt. There are no worthwhile WHU specific twitter accounts relating to inside info about West Ham's first team.
Moyes' arrival coincided with all the leaks stopping and some of them have never forgiven him.
Moyes' arrival coincided with all the leaks stopping and some of them have never forgiven him.
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You can’t be OK with his stubbornness to stay for free money
Fans are idiots to be fair.
1) It’s not free. He trains everyday and is available for selection. He’s earning it. Not his fault/problem if the manager doesn’t pick him.
2) He signed a contract and is entitled to see that contract out, legally.
Obvious rubbish. Some people are so gullible to believe this.
Why would Maguire tell this to "Claret & Hugh"?
Think about it. A random West Ham fan without any background is supposedly close enough to know the inner feelings of Maguire despite never revealing anything before in decades. And despite being so close, has no qualms about leaking something so personal. And is willing to put his name to it. A bloke with the worst name on Twitter.
There is zero about this that is even remotely true. If you think it is, maybe take a good look at yourself.
Seeing Gvardiol going to City for less than what was paid for Maguire really reinforces what an shambolic transfer it was. 80m ffs 
And whose? Manager picks players on merit
Exactly, not effort.
Nobody would argue that he suits ETH system or desired style of play, and it would be best for all if he finds a new club but neither Harry or the club should jump at the first offer that comes along. It has to be the right offer.
Therefore it is disingenuous to claim that Harry doesn’t earn his wage, when he has been amongst the most reliable and consistent members of the squad in his time here.
Reliable and consistent in what sense?
I think transfers like this should dispel the whole 'appeal to authority' that people sometimes make in the face of our transfer team's decisions being questioned: this was a decision that at least a Plurality of the forum could have told you was ill-considered. Likewise, the Woodward strategy around long-term extension of contracts. More likely than not, if it looks like a bad decision, it isn't a brilliant gamble, but a dysfunctional recruitment or executive structure where one person has too much power entrusted to their judgement. I think the Antony transfer will end up being judged in this way - we were ina position where structure was still being re-established, needed a 'reliable' right-sided attacker etc, and trusted ETH's judgement too much instead of finding someone for 40m who could tick the same boxes with regards to pressing and defensive work whilst also registering similar attacking numbers, if not better. Hopefully things are a bit more balanced this time around - even if a number of people are sceptical about Mason Mount to some degree, it doesn't look quite as weird or reckless or desperate as those previous decisions.Seeing Gvardiol going to City for less than what was paid for Maguire really reinforces what an shambolic transfer it was. 80m ffs
Every time I see him play I am reminded.Seeing Gvardiol going to City for less than what was paid for Maguire really reinforces what an shambolic transfer it was. 80m ffs
Always available for selection, hardly ever injured.
Yeah well, that's what happens when you have incompetent people in charge.Seeing Gvardiol going to City for less than what was paid for Maguire really reinforces what an shambolic transfer it was. 80m ffs
Glazers -> Woodward -> Solskjaer -> Maguire
Nothing to do with Ole, Jose wanted Harry 12 months before. He was a club target for a long time.
Ole could of easily vetoed it if he wanted.
Exactly, it is not like Maguire was a global star with marketing value, I am sure he wouldn’t have been overruled.
On a related note, I am still amazed by how many people were initially praising OLE (not club, not Woodward or Judge etc) for the “good transfers”, “sensible transfer strategy”, “squad building” - just check old threads from 2019-2021. When it became clear that almost all of our transfers during his tenure failed - the talk about “club transfers” etc appeared and the same people started making it sound like most of the players were foisted upon poor Ole by the evil Woodward.
you cannot have it both ways and nobody from the club that was on transfer committee can claim any significant credit for the overall transfer policy in those years. Especially 80m for Maguire was just criminal.
So fecked off we couldn't sell him quick enough to keep Min-Jae out of Bayern's grasp
We'd buy a centre back if Maguire were to go, right, as I can't imagine Evans will be relied upon to be fourth choice? That's no disrespect to Evans, who has been a great servant to the club, but with the amount of games we'll be playing again this season, we'd want a top centre back to partner with Lindelof as our second choice pairing.
There's a fair chance West Ham might get desperate. Feels like they've put themselves in a corner this summer. Like we quite often did in the past. One of the possible outcomes of that is you panic and have to do something to placate fans and that can mean mistakes. Maybe we can exploit it and get Maguire out the door without taking a book loss on him. That would be the best case scenario for us. Maybe not an absolute mistake by West Ham as he's suitable for a Moyes low block but if they pay over the odds for a 30 year old if could be.
Eh, I'm not too hard on Woodward about the Maguire signing because he didn't want it. We said nah when Mourinho wanted Maguire. Ole was the one that pushed for it - and to avoid "didn't back the manager" allegations - we ended up buying him - for a ridiculous fee mind. Ole also said Maguire was his number one transfer target.
Don't think we will sign one even if he goes with Evans signed,our top target went to Bayern so it's time for a rethink at CB now
Well then feck both of them.
Moyes putting his job on the line to sign Maguire. Top Red
Maguire suited Ole ball. Defend deep and hit on the break/long ball. I think after Greece, Maguire went downhill.
Yeah that massively affected him
Who have we been linked with and who is available? Pavard wants out at Bayern but he’d want assurances of first team football. We’ve been linked to Alaba and Todibo. We do have Shaw as an option so perhaps we keep both Evans and Fernandez and make do defensively?
Possibly.
I can't imagine Kim was our only centre back target, but at the same time, Maguire needs to be sold before we buy a centre back, if we decide to do so.
Until then, we can't really do anything, which I guess was a massive stumbling block when negotiating with Kim.
The irony of Moyes stopping all the leaks at West Ham while every little detail started being leaked under him here....well hes obviously learned a lesson there.
Only time hes been injured the entire time hes here was the Europa League final (sadly). One thing positive is that hes rarely injured.
And to be fair a lot of us here were annoyed at West Ham lowballing us with the £20 million pound offer, stands to reason a professional with a high opinion of themselves would feel aggreived but such an offer as well. He may be delusional but hes not stupid.
It’s sad to see the amount of vindictive tripe being posted about this lad. We overpaid for him but he was normally good for us under Ole. He’s a good honest pro who isn’t suited to the way we want to play. We paid him too much but we paid loads of our players too much.
I’d like the club to sell him asap but that’s as much as we need to say. People post some really mean stuff; I do it myself sometimes but there’s no point, it’s just poison.
I’d like the club to sell him asap but that’s as much as we need to say. People post some really mean stuff; I do it myself sometimes but there’s no point, it’s just poison.
Maguire played as the right CB and a team playing sensibly, with the goalkeeper not giving kamikaze passes is a formidable player. John Terry was the closest to his type of player.
Leave him in Dublin.
I hope Moyes is reading this and will see Maguire as his John Terry.
What makes you think he’s got a high opinion of himself? He turned up for England with his boots in a carrier bag, the bloke’s as humble as footballers come.
Also why would any player care what price a club is paying for them? If it’s a smaller price tag and higher wages, surely that is preferable to the player? The amount of shit that gets written for clicks from unreliable sources is insane, only thing more astounding is the amount of people that believe said shit to be true.
Pretty sure that is because of the interviews. He has said that he must be good because he plays for Manchester United and managers keep playing him. He said he has nothing to prove in another interview. Those interviews gave people the idea that he does hold a high opinion of himself.