Moises Caicedo | Chelsea agree £115M fee | signed for Chelsea
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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De Zerbi didn't say that. His exact words
It's your assumption that Caicedo was promised a transfer in the summer and it's your assumption that the fee was good enough.
Even if we agree that Brighton promised him that he can leave if they get good bid, what exactly is a good bid? How can 70-80 million be a good bid when players like Havertz cost 65 million and Rice 105 million.
If Brighton said Caicedo can leave then it's on Chelsea to make acceptable bid, not on Brighton to lower their price.
I think you are being naive. Do you think he would admit to that in the public? C'mon man
Excellent post again.
I’ll add, separate to your point, there are some very deluded fans of the Big Clubs who don’t get it. There is a lack of understanding of their position in the footballing pyramid in relation to everyone else.
Chelsea are owned by a new billionaire owner, switching from their old billionaire owner. Despite this, they have humiliated themselves in terms of spend-to-performance.
Once again, early in the season Chelsea snatched Brighton’s manager, 6 key coaching staff, the head of recruitment, oh and the player of the season.
Even now, just check the Evan Ferguson comments. “Let’s just buy him now and loan him back for a year”. Why would that benefit anyone except the people demanding it online, with no appreciation that their team isn’t the be-all and end-all.
There is absolutely no self-awareness in these comments.
He could have just said what is discussed with player is not for media, as simple as that.
Also it has nothing to do with that club promised or didn't promise, it's about the manager and whether he made any promise, and he isn't SAF to make transfer promise. He is just a head coach.
Exactly, you see it all the time "Sign and loan him back", any player signed by any club you will see comments like "why were we not in for him" as if we should sign every player.
Any player signed by other club who goes to become very good player, "why didn't we sign him before that club" as if things player's developement would have been same if some big club sign him without giving the player opportunities.
I hope teams like Brighton, Brentford retain their core players and challenge for top 6.
I’m sorry but this idea that this is limited and unique to big club fans is crazy. I’ve seen how Brighton fans were with Colwill. There just aren’t that many of you online for it to be the prevailing narrative but I’ve been immersed enough in Brighton twitter this summer to see your attitudes towards players you want but can’t have. Trust me, it’s not that much different to the Chelsea fans you’re berating now and the Arsenal fans you were berating last winter..
Obviously Chelsea fans online can be embarrassing and yeah, the attitude towards Brighton and Caicedo is quite condescending and entitled but having seen how Brighton fans are when put in the same situation, I find this whinge about Chelsea fans a bit hypocritical because you’re just as entitled.
Interesting one. Chelsea are very thin in central midfield, this would seem to be an option rather than the option they seem to need to break into the top ten again. But who knows, he might go straight into the team and be a gem.
Yeah he is a far easier fit into Poch's system than Gallagher is you'd think, at least on paper.
He'll be back up to Caicedo. I haven't seen enough of Leeds or USMNT to really have a strong opinion one way or the other. Leeds were the worst defensive team last season but his individual defensive metrics were actually pretty decent.
I don't why it must be one or the other to be honest. Gallagher is an excellent rotational option. He's very low maintenance and wants to be here. Also what does signing Tyler Adams mean for Santos?
Think Santos is going on loan one way or another.
Not sure if there's something going on contract-wise with Gallagher - I believe he has 2 years left so if he's dragging his feet on an extension that would also explain it?
That would be a mistake.
How many players do you need
Reports are that Chelsea have offered £90m as expected.
Stand firm. Don’t accept.
Looks like he's going to Chelsea... eventually. They're too deep in this now; bid will go up incrementally until a deal is reached.
Thats just one of so many questions.How many players do you need
complaint was they had too many players for the squad to settle and they go and sign
Sanchez £25m
Disasi £38m
Ugochukwu £23
Gabriel £13
Paez £17
Nkunku £52
Jackson £32
not including being linked with caicedo and Jackson now too.
Where is all this money coming from / ffp
the worst part is why on earth are players wanting to come when their squad is already so bloated they they can’t register everyone and still go and sign 9 more
We've lost 5 midfielders from last season. So far we've added Ugochukwu who is going straight out on loan and we've brought Santos back from loan. That's literally it. The only other midfielders are Enzo and Gallagher. Would you say that is enough? Enzo, Gallagher and Santos?How many players do you need
Quite a few players left and also some of the players you have listed wont join/be part of the squad this season.
Also have you listed Jackson twice?
Because they’ve made far more money from player sales, as usual. That’s helps a lot. If only we could learn from that.
Players sold or let go;
Mount
Havertz
Kovacic
Kante
Jorginho
Auba
Loftus-Cheek
Pulisic
Azpi
Hall (going on loan)
Mendy
Players we know for a fact won't be at Chelsea beyond this summer
Lukaku
CHO
Ziyech
From your list, players will either remain at their clubs on loan or loaned out to another club.
Ugochukwu
Gabriel
Paez
Assuming he's gotten his US presidents mixed up and listed Jackson instead of Adams
It just looks non-stop from the outside. Also very noticeable that you're stockpiling youth and paying decent fees for some. Has a very 'throw a lot of shit at the wall and some will stick' feel to it.
Since last summer:
Wesley Fofana
Marc Cucurella
Raheem Sterling
Kalidou Koulibaly
Carney Chukwuemeka
Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang
Joao Felix
Gabriel Slonina
Denis Zakaria
David Datro Fofana
Benoît Badiashile
Andrey Santos
Mykhailo Mudryk
Noni Madueke
Malo Gusto
Enzo Fernández
Christopher Nkunku
Axel Disasi
Nicolas Jackson
Lesley Ugochukwu
Robert Sánchez
Ângelo
Diego Moreira
Moises Caicedo?
Tyler Adams?
Deivid Washington?
I genuinely think that's the size of a whole PL squad.
You've reliably bid for Elye Wahi, interest in Olise, Vlahovic? Like it's just relentless. Forgive me if my heart doesn't bleed for the fact that you're lacking in the midfield area.
No one is asking for your sympathy. I'm just saying based on the first team midfielders we've let go, those were the ones we had left, so despite all the spending elsewhere, the midfield needs reinforcement. It was a fair question to lob back at you.
You listed 22 players, two of which were loan players that are no longer here, and two other players already sold. So 18 players (some of whom are young players not signed immediately for the first team), compare that with 14 players we've let go (or will let go), it's more of a crazy squad overhaul than just endless spending the way you tried to frame it.
That's mental in itself imo.
Just saying how it looks to almost everyone else. I'm sure if you weren't a Chelsea fan you'd be a bit baffled too.
He will be a Chelsea player soon unfortunately
Be interesting to see if we get our £100m+ deal or settle for £90-95m. Really don’t want to lose him either way!
It is mental, it's a completely crazy unprecedented squad overhaul. I wouldn't have even responded if you had said that or I would have and backed you up in agreement. It was the 'how many players do they need
' that I wanted to add a bit more context and nuance to 
I was kind of joking when I spun out that conspiracy theory about the Sanchez deal. But maybe there was something to it
In the last 3 days we've had;
Sanchez to Chelsea for what even Brighton fans feel was around 10M more than what they expected.
Caicedo missed a friendly but weirdly it was the CEO who gave us an injury update via the official club website, 'hamstring tightness'. When does that ever happen?
De Zerbi almost completely evading the very simple question of 'will Caicedo be at Brighton's training tomorrow?'
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Fair enough. To be honest I’m still amazed that you’re light in any dept after all that.It is mental, it's a completely crazy unprecedented squad overhaul. I wouldn't have even responded if you had said that or I would have and backed you up in agreement. It was the 'how many players do they need
If they finally pay up what Brighton are looking for then I think Caicedo will be one that they don't regret overpaying for. Just probably should have paid up closer to the start of the window.
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Relevo, quality banter.
What he does is pretty much irrelevant as he's bound by contract and he'll not cut off his nose to spite his face if the window closes and he's still a BHA player.
Still think this gets done, regardless as you're getting antsy now the season is upon us and will pay the asking.
I am getting concerned that Mitoma, Dunk, Steele, Ferguson, Groß… our entire team actually… are all being sold. None of them trained today either.
Of course, it was a scheduled day off having played yesterday, but it still makes a good story and wonderful clickbait “journalism“.
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