I don’t know if they’re deficiencies. Pep has him playing a particular way it would appear, but he’s demonstrated in other teams that his link up play and general play is quality too.He will go down as one of the best pure goalscorers ever similar to Gerd Muller whether he stays at City or moves elsewhere. But deficiencies in other aspects of his game will always prevent him from being recognised as a true GOAT candidate.
His link up and general play may be good and it may be Pep's fault that he can't showcase it (which is quite a weird excuse) but it is nowhere near the level of the best players to have played the game. That will hurt his legacy long term; there is a certain way he will be judgedI don’t know if they’re deficiencies. Pep has him playing a particular way it would appear, but he’s demonstrated in other teams that his link up play and general play is quality too.
The best goalscorer similar to Gerd Muller or Shearer. If Muller played today, he'd be hyped up to no end.He is a ridiculously consistent scorer but like I've always said, he isn't the type of player I'll ever tune in to watch play. Way too boring for my liking and that's one of the main reason he'll be considered as the best striker for me.
The emotion generated by football plays a big role for me, it's not just about stats
Wouldn't necessarily agree with this, you need to look at how their peers were scoring in those same years, and that makes a Ronaldo more impressive. He was scoring 35 goals a season when other world class strikers were scoring 20+ goals.Absolutely. I have never seen anything like that from any striker. I wonder how is he compared with other all time best strikers like R9, Muller, Eusebio at similar age in top level football:
Haaland
at 19: 44 goals in 40 games
at 20: 41 goals in 41 games
at 21: 29 goals in 30 games
at 22: 52 goals in 53 games
R9
at 18: 35 goals in 36 games
at 19: 19 goals in 21 games
at 20: 47 goals in 49 games
at 21: 34 goals in 47 games
Esuebio
at 19: 29 goals in 31 games
at 20: 38 goals in 39 games
at 21: 46 goals in 28 games
at 22: 48 goals in 38 games
Muller
at 20: 16 goals in 39 games
at 21: 43 goals in 45 games
at 22: 30 goals in 46 games
at 23: 37 goals in 35 games
The fact that he does it in the toughest league during one of the most physical and defensively organised era was even more impressive to me.
He tends to be able to put it exactly where the keeper can't save it.I don't think his finishing is elite.
He can shoot from almost any angle and position, but he doesn't have that clinical ability to put the ball wherenever he wants like Messi, Son, Kane, etc.
Scoring a lot does not necessarily involve great shooting ability.He tends to be able to put it exactly where the keeper can't save it.
Well that’s not entirely true. Although R9 was truly amazing during his peak, he did get outscore by Bierhoff in Serie A during his 34 goals season there. His truly amazing year in terms of goalscoring was the one at Barca.Wouldn't necessarily agree with this, you need to look at how their peers were scoring in those same years, and that makes a Ronaldo more impressive. He was scoring 35 goals a season when other world class strikers were scoring 20+ goals.
For Haaland, he's scoring in an era where Lewandowski, Mbappe, Kane, Benzema and Messi are scoring, while not maybe at the same amount, lots of goals themselves.
Young Ronaldo is still the most impressive striker I've ever seen. He scored almost as much as Haaland and had arguably the best dribbling ability in the world at that time.
It was an ironic post, hence the white text.i know, it was a continuation of misconceptions the post I quoted had
Well Haaland wasn't the top scorer above Lewandowski as well.Well that’s not entirely true. Although R9 was truly amazing during his peak, he did get outscore by Bierhoff in Serie A during his 34 goals season there. His truly amazing year in terms of goalscoring was the one at Barca.
To be fair, Lewandowski did break Muller’s all time record in BL, and was scoring at an insane rate for several years during his peak (50+ goals per season) and was at Ballon D’or level. Bierhoff was clearly far from that level.Well Haaland wasn't the top scorer above Lewandowski as well.
Even with that said, Haaland isn't better than Lewandowski, Benzema, Kane (yes yes, laugh but I've said this for a while) and even peak Suarez so far from saying he's the best ever.
Let's see how Haaland progresses in terms of scoring by the end of his career but at this stage he isn't better than the others above.
Forgot to add "never" but I see you got my point anyway. Make no mistake though, I would have loved to have a player like that for our team. The assurance of a goal/game is soothingHis link up and general play may be good and it may be Pep's fault that he can't showcase it (which is quite a weird excuse) but it is nowhere near the level of the best players to have played the game. That will hurt his legacy long term; there is a certain way he will be judged
Mbappe plays cricket does he?Best player on the planet for a while now.
«SuReLy YoU mEaN bEsT GoAlScOrEr? R9 BeTtEr!!»
No. Best player
A cheat code - he’s unstoppable. Deserving of the Ballon d’Or, but we all know that one goes to Messi for one last time.
I don’t know, but I’m sure he has hobbies as well. So why not cricket?Mbappe plays cricket does he?
Fits them like a gloveBest player on the planet for a while now.
«SuReLy YoU mEaN bEsT GoAlScOrEr? R9 BeTtEr!!»
No. Best player
A cheat code - he’s unstoppable. Deserving of the Ballon d’Or, but we all know that one goes to Messi for one last time.
Well whatever his hobbies, he remains better at football than Haaland and by a large margin at that!I don’t know, but I’m sure he has hobbies as well. So why not cricket?
He may as well. He barely outscores Lacazette in France.Mbappe plays cricket does he?
Ahh yes because football is only about the goals…He may as well. He barely outscores Lacazette in France.
Haaland would score 180 goals a season in that league.
Haaland is a goalscorer and there's nobody better at it so yeah...Ahh yes because football is only about the goals…
Which doesn’t make him the best player in the world which was the point.Haaland is a goalscorer and there's nobody better at it so yeah...
Perhaps not but he's better than Mbappe.Which doesn’t make him the best player in the world which was the point.
Is he? Mbappe would automatically lift any squad in the world. Haaland needs service.Perhaps not but he's better than Mbappe.
He’s not even close tbh. Mbappe can destroy teams by himself. I’ve never seen a more electric player live than Mbappe since a young Ronaldo.Perhaps not but he's better than Mbappe.
I don't think his finishing is elite.
He can shoot from almost any angle and position, but he doesn't have that clinical ability to put the ball wherenever he wants like Messi, Son, Kane, etc.
Yes it's all about the dribbling and tekkersAhh yes because football is only about the goals…
Or you know the complete package. Something Mbappe has and Haaland lacks.Yes it's all about the dribbling and tekkers
Yeah, it's why I prefer Mbappe as a player.He will go down as one of the best pure goalscorers ever similar to Gerd Muller whether he stays at City or moves elsewhere. But deficiencies in other aspects of his game will always prevent him from being recognised as a true GOAT candidate.
What I would say though is that Mbappe needs to move in the next couple of years if he wants the recognition he deserves. He’s simply a miles better player than a player like Haaland, but won’t get that recognition in France. He desperately needs a move to Madrid or the Premier league where his talents will be on show.Shocks me how people are talking about Haaland vs Mbappe & how it is reminds me about how people talked about Ronaldo vs Messi.
One does it consistently in different leagues, hard leagues and the less historical successful national team whilst prioritizing physical ability to become less technical & to some be boring.
The other does it majority in one league, for a National team with a history of success through decades & is a very technical/beautiful play to the fans eyes.
Interesting, Mbappe will be the GOAT for the majority I reckon.
Sounds so similar to what I say about certain legendary playersLemme know when Mbappe decides to actually test himself in a good league.
Haaland even performs better in the Champions League.
Haaland is waaaaaaay closer to Ronaldo than Mbappe is to Messi.Shocks me how people are talking about Haaland vs Mbappe & how it is reminds me about how people talked about Ronaldo vs Messi.
One does it consistently in different leagues, hard leagues and the less historical successful national team whilst prioritizing physical ability to become less technical & to some be boring.
The other does it majority in one league, for a National team with a history of success through decades & is a very technical/beautiful play to the fans eyes.
Interesting, Mbappe will be the GOAT for the majority I reckon.
