Its clear he's done at United. He's only staying here to get the money. Any player with the slightest bit of self respect would leave when he's been replaced as first choice, replaced as club captain, booed by fans on a constant basis.
Because he sacrifices critical years of his career and a spot inte the England squad for Euros 2024 to be richer than rich.
Thats just PR, he brought in Jonny Evans on preseason. He sat on his arse for a season and seems happy to do it again. Guy told us he has nothing to prove
I didn’t like his getting booed but now I’ll have no sympathy, particularly if this prevents us signing more players.
Feck's sake
From what I've read, ETH is happy to still have him and he will be a squad player. Given the amount of matches we tend to play and the injury record for our centre backs he'll probably play decent minutes if he stays. I don't think he is boo'd on a constant basis, he's better supported at OT than he is in America on pre-season.
I guess, but so far he's always been in the England squad, and I can't see that changing. He'll get enough minutes to probably justify his place to Southgate.
He has spoke up similarly about other players shortly after let go, but I agree soemwhat with the sentiment. The club should be telling him he isnt part of the plans, because:
Jonny mostly went with the kids though I think didn't he? According to transfermarkt he played 31 matches last season with a total of 1593 minutes, maybe he is happy enough with similar numbers again.
We should be forcing him out the door, yeah. ETH should have told him he has no place and not included him in the squad yesterday. I know he has said one thing and done another in the media with other players, but to me it doesn't seem that way with Maguire.
Obviously because we'd be swapping our 5th choice centreback for Varane's successor, ideally. Nothing remarkable about it.
I mean that's possible but not plausible, there's quite a few ubderlying assumptions required for that to be the case. Essentially Maguire would need to have zero career aspirations left and his sole motivation to be making money. Which isn't impossible, but there are several other factors and motivations such as pride, his England career, enjoyment of playing, moving on from a negative and sometimes hostile environment at United where he has become a figure of ridicule, or wanting to prove a point to his doubters. Unless he flat out refuses to ever move and runs his contract down, it's a bits outlandish to assume he doesn't care about any of those factors and only cares about money. Secondly, he'd have a good chance of starting for England if he had a good season for West Ham or siniliar. Only Stones is a certainty at CB for England at the moment, and Maguire is still the other first choice CB currently despite being a bench player under ETH although that won't last for ever.
Im genuinely staggered he is still here.
Depends on ten Hag. Currently he’s like the 5th option at CB. If there are no injuries he won’t get a sniff.
Completely freeze him out the squad, I wouldn't have had him warming up yesterday if I our manager and I wanted him gone. For all we know he could've said he has no place, but from what I've seen it's not what's being reported, and it isn't what seems to be happening.
We are paying him for sure as we are contractually required to do so. But question Maguire should be asking if 7m is worth more than his rest of playing career. If yes then he is fully entitled to do so.
Moyes confirmed a deal was agreed. That means the club were happy to see him gone
The issue is we will struggle to sell him for 30m. He is 30 and his value will go down. We now have a player who the manager doesn't rate, the club were willing to sell, and who is low on confidence. He is a walking disaster and will continue to cost us games. Him staying is not a good thing.
Ideally we would yes but I don't think scrambling around in the last two weeks of the transfer window we are likely to find it. We'll get held to ransom for silly money as well.
Yeah they were happy to sell him, but when asked Ten Hag said he would be a part of the squad vs Wolves, which he was. It seems he's been given the option, and chose to stay and 'fight for his place'
I know I would not. Self esteem. My only hope for inner piece now is an extremely harsh treatment by the manager, a treatment basically saying you prevented us from getting another player in by putting your own needs above the club. No seriously, 6M payoff up his ass and a guaranteed starting spot at a renowned midtable team, WHY is he not taking this? Is he really not feeling nobody here needs and wants him?
Nope ETH can't do no more. The business men in control of transfers are once again probably the biggest issue in all of this. As for Harry himself I'm not sure is the penny dropping for him or simply happy to collect his wages while a 4th/5th choice centre back at the club?
Then we will be taken for granted and we will be continuously wondering why we are quoted high when we want to buy and our players want pay off when we sell them. We need to be ruthless if we want to build a successful team which knows performance matters
He must be sent to U18 or U21 team. And sit on the bench there, without playing
The window is still open so probably makes sense not to do that yet. As soon as it closes yeah, along with fining him when he turns up late.
A back up for big money and wages is the kind of move that got us in this mess. The next CB we buy should be a potential Varane replacement, Pavard isn't it.
Yeah a WC winner who has been a starter for Bayern Munich winning treble and 4 BL titles on the trot, able to play in multiple defence positions doesn’t add anything we need at the back having Lindelof as covering CB, left back playing as CB and a right side of AWB and Dalot..
certainly better to keep a 30 years old meme on crazy wages.
