Maguire | he stays!

[SteveCoppellFan]

He should have left this summer but he chose not to.

That is on him and you can just imagine the response he is going to get from the fans when he plays a game.

 

[Isotope]

He should have left this summer but he chose not to.

That is on him and you can just imagine the response he is going to get from the fans when he plays a game.

As booing is frowned upon, only option for fans is sending displeasure through mind transfer. I'm sure Maguire will get the message.

 

[dpansheth]

Im sorry but I have to disagree, the player power now is just ridiculous, for example take Nunes who has just moved from Wolves. Wolves took a chance on him and paid a hefty fee and a very high salary. City come in for him 48 hours before the deadline, because Wolves rejected the bid (and they are right to imo as they have zero time to recruit especially for a key player so the general rule is you pay a high premium) Nunes goes on strike (and this isn’t just an isolated incident ) and still collects his salary. it’s the same as players thY want their contract changing mid contract because they have had half a good season. By that logic the club can lower the players salary if they have a sub standard season? There needs to be an overhaul so that neither the player nor the club have too much power.

NFL analogy is if you are a holdout , or you don’t participate in training/games for any non-injury reasons than you don’t get paid. May be time to implement that, a CBA might be helpful.

 

[Leftback99]

He should have left this summer but he chose not to.

That is on him and you can just imagine the response he is going to get from the fans when he plays a game.

How dare he choose to play for United for £200k a week. All those fans 'responding' would definitely not have done the same.

 

[Redlyn]

Im sorry but I have to disagree, the player power now is just ridiculous, for example take Nunes who has just moved from Wolves. Wolves took a chance on him and paid a hefty fee and a very high salary. City come in for him 48 hours before the deadline, because Wolves rejected the bid (and they are right to imo as they have zero time to recruit especially for a key player so the general rule is you pay a high premium) Nunes goes on strike (and this isn’t just an isolated incident ) and still collects his salary. it’s the same as players thY want their contract changing mid contract because they have had half a good season. By that logic the club can lower the players salary if they have a sub standard season? There needs to be an overhaul so that neither the player nor the club have too much power.

If think they are allowed to with hold pay for the period he is refusing to play.

 

[Devil You Know]

If we're being honest, every single player we failed to sell was because they didn't want to drop wages.

We had interest for Bailly but he stayed because nobody wanted was able to pay his wages. And we had interest for Van De Beek but he also stayed because nobody wanted was able to pay his wages. They're no different from Maguire.

Maguire isn't alone at United for making the salary demands that he did. The same thing happens every season and at every big club that pays big wages. Jones, Pogba and DDG also left on frees for the same reason. I imagine we'll see something similar with Sancho before too long.

 

[antohan]

Play him as a striker tomorrow
Shock and awe.

 

[TheLord]

He should have left this summer but he chose not to.

That is on him and you can just imagine the response he is going to get from the fans when he plays a game.

This perspective is over the top.

When clubs want to buy players, they go to great lengths to convince the player, the agent, the selling club, and a host of other concerned parties. A contract is then prepared and that contract is honoured. Just because a player doesn't live up to the club's expectations, the club cannot show him the door unless it is mutually agreeable.

The fans can boo Maguire for playing trash football and costing United points on the field, but certainly not because he refused to join a lesser club without a proper payoff when he has a better contact at United. He doesn't have many football years left in him either.

 

[Real Name]

Lindelof is 3rd choice. I suppose Maguire is still ahead of Evans but even that is doubtful.

I meant with Varane injured.

 

[Borussia Teeth]

If we're being honest, every single player we failed to sell was because they didn't want to drop wages.

We had interest for Bailly but he stayed because nobody wanted was able to pay his wages. And we had interest for Van De Beek but he also stayed because nobody wanted was able to pay his wages. They're no different from Maguire.

Maguire isn't alone at United for making the salary demands that he did. The same thing happens every season and at every big club that pays big wages. Jones, Pogba and DDG also left on frees for the same reason. I imagine we'll see something similar with Sancho before too long.

Unfortunately, your right. People don't want to take pay cuts, even if they're already rich. We really need to get the wage bill in order. Although that looks like it hasn't begun yet when you see Mount's reported salary.

 

[Robbie Boy]

Can't believe this bloke is still here

 

[Zehner]

Im sorry but I have to disagree, the player power now is just ridiculous, for example take Nunes who has just moved from Wolves. Wolves took a chance on him and paid a hefty fee and a very high salary. City come in for him 48 hours before the deadline, because Wolves rejected the bid (and they are right to imo as they have zero time to recruit especially for a key player so the general rule is you pay a high premium) Nunes goes on strike (and this isn’t just an isolated incident ) and still collects his salary. it’s the same as players thY want their contract changing mid contract because they have had half a good season. By that logic the club can lower the players salary if they have a sub standard season? There needs to be an overhaul so that neither the player nor the club have too much power.

Maybe players striking their way out should get fined their salaries and pay damages to the club.

E. g. if a player was signed for 30m on a 5 year contrast (= 6m annual depreciation = 500k monthly depreciation) and then strikes for a month, he should pay the club 500k (and obviously won't get paid).

 

[adexkola]

 

[MrMarcello]

Hasn't screwed up yet.

 

[Rightnr]

Hound the cnut out of the club. Bet he won't be posting about his winning record today.

Tosser.

 

[InfiniteBoredom]

You were just resigned to the inevitable once he came on.

We are actually cursed, 4 games in and all 4 senior CBs out.

 

[edgecutter]

He's like playing with low frame rate. Opposition fans cheering when he comes on just goes to show what an utter dreadful signing he has been.

 

[Crashoutcassius]

People really are naive enough to think that it's a bad thing that we could put on England's number 1 centre back today instead of will fish or dalot centre back.

We need the cover. Saying that players need to leave and that 'anybody would be better' is so childish

 

[SAFMUTD]

Looking at Arsenals second goal watch Maguire. He stays frozen with his hand up instead of closing on Rice.

Also he doesn't have the instinct to close the gap on the closest post. He moves to the center where it's fully crowded.

I don't know if I'm reading to much because it's Maguire but I think he should had done way way better.

 

[Trophy Room]

He really is awful.

 

[In Rainbows]

Looking at Arsenals second goal watch Maguire. He stays frozen with his hand up instead of closing on Rice.

Also he doesn't have the instinct to close the gap on the closest post. He moves to the center where it's fully crowded.

I don't know if I'm reading to much because it's Maguire but I think he should had done way way better.

I don't know what he and Dalot were doing for that second goal. All they had to do was maintain their position as the next best option, but they chose the 3rd option (the worst one), which is to leave the near post open.

 

[Precaution]

He's like playing with low frame rate. Opposition fans cheering when he comes on just goes to show what an utter dreadful signing he has been.

Low frame rate with a massively high ping

 

[Desert Eagle]

Piece of trash

 

[George Owen]

Looking at Arsenals second goal watch Maguire. He stays frozen with his hand up instead of closing on Rice.

Also he doesn't have the instinct to close the gap on the closest post. He moves to the center where it's fully crowded.

I don't know if I'm reading to much because it's Maguire but I think he should had done way way better.

Both, Evans and him should have done better. They had an eternity of time to close Rice down. 100% on them that goal.

 

[SAFMUTD]

Both, Evans and him should have done better. They had an eternity of time to close Rice down. 100% on them that goal.

Rice even miss controls the ball with his chest but he still has time to correct it and shoot. How did we manage to give him so much time alone in the box after a corner is beyond me. Calamity defending as stupid and naive as it gets.

 

[Ole'sgunnarwin]

People really are naive enough to think that it's a bad thing that we could put on England's number 1 centre back today instead of will fish or dalot centre back.

We need the cover. Saying that players need to leave and that 'anybody would be better' is so childish

I'm naive and childish so.

 

[Crashoutcassius]

We should retitle the thread 'why having backup international standard defenders in a injury crisis is a bad thing'

 

[Devil_forever]

feck me, you just knew once he came on we would concede. Evans was bad but tried to defend at least. Maguire stood still for the arsenal goal. Our academy defenders wouldn’t be this shit.

 

[InfiniteBoredom]

We should retitle the thread 'why having backup international standard defenders in a injury crisis is a bad thing'

Said back up international standard defender has been wank at club level for 24 months and cost 190k/week, and is 30, not a hill I’d die on. At least with a kid you can hold out hope that he would improve.

 

[Rightnr]

We should retitle the thread 'why having backup international standard defenders in a injury crisis is a bad thing'

Stop spouting shite. The guy is a liability and today's awful ending proves just that.

How he's still got defenders outside of his delusional family is absolutely beyond me.

 

[Trophy Room]

Our 4 first choice centre backs are now injured. God save us.

 

[MrMarcello]

I don't know what he and Dalot were doing for that second goal. All they had to do was maintain their position as the next best option, but they chose the 3rd option (the worst one), which is to leave the near post open.

Geezus, I had noticed Maguire doing his stupid defending but didn't notice Dalot moving away from the ball. Wtf is he thinking there? He stays in that space and probably blocks the shot or forces Rice to take more time which allows Evans to probably change up the result. Same if Maguire defends versus just ball watching. Evans is making a move towards the ball while Maguire just stands with his arm up, ffs.

This club has an unimaginable collection of low football IQ players.

 

[croadyman]

Please someone in Portugal sign him I beg you

 

[Kaos]

And to think we could have brought on Pavard when Martinez got injured, cheers Slabhead.

 

[TsuWave]

His value is just going to tank. He’s horrible

 

[Devil You Know]

This isn't the performance thread.

But if it was, he played well today.

Posting in his transfer thread won't "manifest" his sale.

 

[plex]

And to think we could have brought on Pavard when Martinez got injured, cheers Slabhead.

Big mistake by ManUtd imho. Inter bought Pavard for 30M € + 2M € bonuses. I guess Bayern would have asked for about ~40M € in case a PL club was interested, but that's still a steal for a defender like Pavard. Well, good luck with Maguire

Anyway, this guy is still a mistery, I mean before he became a ManUtd player he wasn't that sh*t. I guess it's also a psychological problem, maybe the pressure and expectations are simply too much for him to handle.

 

[golden_blunder]

feck me, you just knew once he came on we would concede. Evans was bad but tried to defend at least. Maguire stood still for the arsenal goal. Our academy defenders wouldn’t be this shit.

Let’s stop saying this nonsense. We’ve just sold the best of our academy centre backs to Luton

 

[golden_blunder]

Both, Evans and him should have done better. They had an eternity of time to close Rice down. 100% on them that goal.

I thought Evans was fouled whilst trying to get out to Rice

 

[George Owen]

I thought Evans was fouled whilst trying to get out to Rice

Not a foul for me. Both fighting for positioning but is Evans who gets frustrated and hugs/wrestle the Arsenal player to the ground. And instead of reacting and trying to close down to block, he just stays there hoping for the referee or a miracle.

Imagine we get a goal canceled for that. We would be fuming and rightly so.