Seems as much an Antony decision as it does a club one
Antony under investigation by Brazilian authorities for domestic abuse | Back in the squad
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Excellent news, the club has acted quickly and positively. Probably a quick phone call telling him that the club didn’t need the same shitstorm as before and to stay in Brazil for now and go to the beach and enjoy himself, no cancel that just relax.
No point as we seem to go with public opinion anyway and as most of the public are anti-United it will be the same outcome here
He hasn't been charged with a crime. He's on bail from the police while the investigation continues.
So with Sancho in the bad books our only realistic options at RW are Bruno, Mount and Pellistri?
Fun times.
Fun times.
Would you have preferred an announcement done by the medium of dance?
When I said that last week I had seen reports that the girl had posted damming evidence in the Brazilian media.
I had also seen people discussing some audio evidence
Since then I looked to see if there was any smoking gun evidence like the Greenwood case and I haven't see any. Have I missed something?
So basically with Greenwood immediate suspension made sense as there was a lot of evidence. With Antony I don't see any public evidence at all so surely every allegation of a footballer cant result in them being suspended from football for years.
Basically the situations are quite different.
It's probably just got to the point where he needs a break from playing as it will be a distraction to Antony himself and to the club. There's been too much noise around this directly from the women and Antony himself that it's probably for the best for all involved to have a break. Suppose the question would be for how long, as this probably won't be resolved soon.
Well hopefully the club aren't paying him his salary while he has the time off he desires.
No public evidence. Therefore nothing United could know about.
Every allegation can't result in a footballer losing years of their career as that is treating people as guilty from the outset.
Good that they have found a mutual agreement. This is a personal issue and needs to be resolved. And it is not the same situation as MG unless there are some recordings.
On football note. Have been pretty poor to be honest. Not Sanchol-level but still not good enough. Lot of energy and good defensivly but you need your wingers to produce.
On football note. Have been pretty poor to be honest. Not Sanchol-level but still not good enough. Lot of energy and good defensivly but you need your wingers to produce.
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Seems like a good call to me.
Good move by the club, we must act decisively and correctly when these arise.
A perhaps silver lining is, this will also improve us on the pitch because the lad is utter toilet.
A perhaps silver lining is, this will also improve us on the pitch because the lad is utter toilet.
Up until Thursday you where saying it's looking worse and worse... So what's changed between then and now? Also mutual agreement on having time off isn't suspension.
Yeah, basically. We’ll be better off without him.
If the women involved in this only wanted attention they could just have used social media, couldn’t they? Why involve the authorities and risk being sued and drag through a lot of controversy?
If both the Brazilian federation and now United have left Antony to defend himself something must have happened.
And also, since the allegations has been ever present a couple of years now something can’t be right.
Also, I do think the club has known this a long while but hoped that it would go away without any kind of fuzz. But the world today won’t work that way anymore.
I really think this will be another £80m down the drain…sadly.
If both the Brazilian federation and now United have left Antony to defend himself something must have happened.
And also, since the allegations has been ever present a couple of years now something can’t be right.
Also, I do think the club has known this a long while but hoped that it would go away without any kind of fuzz. But the world today won’t work that way anymore.
I really think this will be another £80m down the drain…sadly.
The reactions would be massively different if the player in question was a fan favourite.
There was more evidence coming out. It was looking worse. But as I said since looking at those reports and everything there isn't anything near the likes of the MG situation.
Suspension, Mutual agreement. Doesn't really matter. If they are waiting for the police or court case to resolve this then it could likely take years.
That's a long time out.
Good decision.
What a waste of £85m this guy was.
What a waste of £85m this guy was.
He’s not suspended. He’s been given a bit of time to try and get it sorted out whilst he’s in Brazil
Of course, since our other options on the right are much better....
He’ll be back playing in a month.
Trial by media...not saying this is the right or wrong decision but this is just another mess to clean up.
Looks like the club are going to get hammered for everything they do on and off the pitch this season...as fans we just need to take it on the chin and try to stay neutral.
Looks like the club are going to get hammered for everything they do on and off the pitch this season...as fans we just need to take it on the chin and try to stay neutral.
Why have Women's Aid decided to put out a statement about Man Utd?? As if this is the only allegation of domestic abuse at the moment.
How come Arsenal have avoided coming under any scrutiny?
How come Arsenal have avoided coming under any scrutiny?
How has it not got worse since your initial statement? He's been dropped by his national team and had multiple women come out about alleged abuse. If anything it's worse and Greenwood's situation shouldn't be the bench mark for when the club should or shouldn't take action.
I’ve found some of the comments here astonishing.
This isn’t a witch-hunt against your club for pity’s sake, this is a very serious criminal matter which needs to be calmly investigated and a process followed. In my opinion your club have acted swiftly in light of the new allegations and I don’t see how else they could’ve responded.
I’ve seen some posts implying conspiracies to hold your club down, victim blaming, criticism of Rachel Riley (!!).
I understand the anger and disappointment that this has happened again so soon with one of your own, but the allegations deserve to be addressed - not least for the player himself, to have the opportunity to clear his name if free from wrongdoing.
A little perspective perhaps; guys? Let the private process happen.
This isn’t a witch-hunt against your club for pity’s sake, this is a very serious criminal matter which needs to be calmly investigated and a process followed. In my opinion your club have acted swiftly in light of the new allegations and I don’t see how else they could’ve responded.
I’ve seen some posts implying conspiracies to hold your club down, victim blaming, criticism of Rachel Riley (!!).
I understand the anger and disappointment that this has happened again so soon with one of your own, but the allegations deserve to be addressed - not least for the player himself, to have the opportunity to clear his name if free from wrongdoing.
A little perspective perhaps; guys? Let the private process happen.
It is the right the to do, but let's hope other clubs come under the same scrutiny in the future. Somehow I doubt it.
there is a post just above yours seemingly accusing women’s aid of just that
Good post.
I think the Partey case has frustrated many in how Arsenal have not bothered dealing with it but there’s a media blackout and zero criticism levelled. That’s fuelled the being treated differently angle.
That said United acted quickly to suspend Greenwood and now a leave of absence for Antony.
Would sooner the club act like this than do nothing and ignore it.
diallo might be an option soon?
Mount will take his place when he returns.
Oh give it a rest ffs. Cancel culture brigade
He's been rightfully given time off to sort this out. Do you really think he would've been in any kind of decent head space to play football right now? He would be a liability on the pitch with everything going on.
Seems to be a very polarizing subject. Some would call that astonishing in itself (I wouldn't disagree).
Anyway, the club could have acted more swiftly (yes, I'm being extremely critical but I honestly don't think they deserve to be cut much slack at the moment) given that it was inevitable how this thing would play out.
probably but unfortunately not much anyone can do about that as he will be protected under his contract. It’s a major life incidence so it will have to be dealt with. Not really something you can just brush under the carpet is it ? It’s real life and some things are bigger than football.
My personal experience was one where I was falsely accused but my default stance is to give credence to accusations. How does that equate to me being scarred by personal experience?
The poster I was replying to. Said 'Rubbish Post'. That's not nuance. It's the lack of nuance I have issue with. The first I post I engaged with in this sequence said the woman in question was telling a 'hideous' lie. Where's the nuance there?
On the sinister comment, yeah. My background is media. And the period of silence bookended by the disturbing video and the soft focus image of the happy family was jarring.
Your post reads well but it's not connected to reality in any way I dint think.
I don't engage with neutral posters, just problematic ones. That last poster was banned (not by me) for comments in the Greenwood thread. They were far from neutral.
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You’re always going to get a variety of viewpoints but I think the majority of comments in this thread have been reasonable.
It's part of their job to react to high profile cases of (alleged) domestic violence? They also put out a statement when the story of a "premier league footballer who can't be named for legal reasons" first came out in the media.
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To be fair its good move by the club. Antony has already been dropped by Brazil national team, and was under investigation in 3 different assaults.
Yes, Rachel and her social media torch and pitchfork mob are on the case!
Doesn't alter the fact that Arsenal still have a player in exactly the same situation freely plying his trade for the club.