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Yeah I agree. Think Eubank had some skills and ability but held himself back most of his career with his attitude and things like that. He maybe could have been better but he is just a B level in the grand scheme.

What did his dad say about him?
Quite a lot but essentially that he thought he was devoting too much of his attention to the fame side of stuff and not taking his training seriously enough and that he doesn't listen to trainers.

Pretty brutally open interview on talksport.
 

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Shite from Smith but I still think the trilogy sells if Eubank/Benn doesn't get made next.
 

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Shite from Smith but I still think the trilogy sells if Eubank/Benn doesn't get made next.
I reckon Smith retires honestly. Especially as I reckon the PPV will do terribly so the payday isn't going to be life changing for the trilogy.
 

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Eubank was much better this time. He’s never really put in the graft with any discipline and it’s previously showed with lazy spells in fights. He punched constantly last night and once he hurt Smith it was over. I think he said inI the build up he’s been getting up at 8 and has used a nutritionist for the first time whereas he was previously lying in and training in the afternoon. I’m guessing the earlier starts has led to Bo Mac giving him extra sessions.

For his part,Smith cited having to drop 3 stone after his injury led to him being flat. He normally has to warm into a fight but last night was particularly placid; for large parts he was literally throwing nothing.
 

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I went to the fight and i can't believe how many people were supporting Smith and also how many were certain he'd win again.

There was obviously alot of scousers there but I met people from Brum, Sheffield and even Manchester who wanted him to win. Such a one-sided crowd. Made me laugh when they played two oasis songs just before Liams walk out. To be fair though I've never heard a scouser sing along to wonderwall in all honesty. I was cheering Eubank so loud in front of loads of Smith fans. Amazing how i left the arena in one piece.

For me Eubank didnt look on it in the first fight, not sure whether Benn cut was a factor but he was not 100%. He looked good tonight. Even from the start. Could tell he trained well and had a good camp and wanted to make a statement.

Respect to Smith though. He took a variety of punches for a while and did his best.
 

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Eubank won every round, a bit disappointed in Smith thought he would have had a bit more, Eubanks jab was finding the target the guy wasn't even in the fight at all, comfy win.. if there's a 3rd and Eubank has the same quality only one winner again.
 

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Looks Crawford and Eubank are on the lookout for a new trainer. Bomac decided it was a good idea to carry a loaded gun when boarding his plane in Manchester :wenger: thats just beyond dumb. On remand now until his Oct 9.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/66705001
 

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A never-nude? I thought he just liked cut-offs.
Looks Crawford and Eubank are on the lookout for a new trainer. Bomac decided it was a good idea to carry a loaded gun when boarding his plane in Manchester :wenger: thats just beyond dumb. On remand now until his Oct 9.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/66705001
Silly bastard. I'm intrigued as feck about this though. Did he somehow manage to get the gun from America into the UK through airport security at both ends when he was travelling over here? Alternatively, how and why would he buy a gun illegally in his brief stint in Manchester? And why on earth would he attempt to bring it back to America with him illegally, when he could probably have bought the same gun legally as soon as he landed in America?
 

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Silly bastard. I'm intrigued as feck about this though. Did he somehow manage to get the gun from America into the UK through airport security at both ends when he was travelling over here? Alternatively, how and why would he buy a gun illegally in his brief stint in Manchester? And why on earth would he attempt to bring it back to America with him illegally, when he could probably have bought the same gun legally as soon as he landed in America?
So many questions. I had the same thoughts. On the face of it doesn't make much sense at all.
 

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Maybe one day in my lifetime boxing will unify to have one belt for each weight class, and mandated fights done by rank. A man can dream.
 

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Maybe one day in my lifetime boxing will unify to have one belt for each weight class, and mandated fights done by rank. A man can dream.
Too many fingers in too many pies for that to happen, I think. It's a ridiculous sport at this stage. It's seemingly set up to keep the best guys away from each other.
 

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Too many fingers in too many pies for that to happen, I think. It's a ridiculous sport at this stage. It's seemingly set up to keep the best guys away from each other.
It could happen, it needs a new promotion that is structured differently and more popular. If there is more money in it the fighters will flock there.

It's very difficult though when you've got fecking youtubers making a mockery of the sport and getting PPV purses after one or two training camps under the current status quo.
 

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Silly bastard. I'm intrigued as feck about this though. Did he somehow manage to get the gun from America into the UK through airport security at both ends when he was travelling over here? Alternatively, how and why would he buy a gun illegally in his brief stint in Manchester? And why on earth would he attempt to bring it back to America with him illegally, when he could probably have bought the same gun legally as soon as he landed in America?
You think it’s a set up Pat?
 

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A never-nude? I thought he just liked cut-offs.
You think it’s a set up Pat?
Who knows mate? My brief digging suggests that the illegal handguns floating around the UK are more likely to be European brands than Smith and Wessons. Plus you'd need to have someone who was willing to part with (I hope) a fairly hard to come by commodity just to frame Bomac, and they'd need to have had access to his hand luggage at very short notice. It all seems unlikely, but then so do the other explanations.

The most plausible to me is that he took it into the UK with him, either not knowing or not caring that it was illegal. He apparently arrived here via private jet, so maybe the security in American airports is far laxer for private jets than commercial?
 

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Silly bastard. I'm intrigued as feck about this though. Did he somehow manage to get the gun from America into the UK through airport security at both ends when he was travelling over here? Alternatively, how and why would he buy a gun illegally in his brief stint in Manchester? And why on earth would he attempt to bring it back to America with him illegally, when he could probably have bought the same gun legally as soon as he landed in America?
Apparently he brought it over on a private plane which has lax security
 

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Fury really is a fecking moron isn't he.

Assuming Ngannou has already secured a hefty guaranteed purse I really hope people boycott this sham.

I'd love if Fury turned up and fecked around and got KO'd too, albeit the chances of that happening are almost zero.

He can get fecked, Usyk is the #1 HW on the planet and Fury is an overrated bum until further notice.
 

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Joyce is terrible, so slow and ponderous. Also has zero head movement. Zhang will KO him soon.
 

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Nasty knockout there
Should never have taken the rematch, it’s this bad habit British boxers / promotors have of thinking immediate rematches keeps them on track career wise after a loss.
 

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Terrible performance from Joyce. So laboured and cumbersome, was eating punches from the first bell and was it only a matter of time before he was out on the deck.
 

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Unfortunately Zhang is gonna be a bit of a boogieman after this win. Can't see anyone wanting to fight him.
 

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Joyce was incredibly poor, never really rated him and that should be his career done to be honest.
 

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Dig up stupid!
Joyce looked scared from the off, maybe this rematch was too soon as I doubt the eye was 100%. Not that I think he had much of a chance anyway

Zhang confident and clinical, great finish
 

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Zhang barely gave a feck and still won. Joyce should retire
 

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Not sure why the commentators want to discuss Zhang v Fury. We all know that ain't happening.