The alleged photo of Bradley Lowery circulating on Twitter.

[Rhyme Animal]

It looks fake to me.
But that story about Bradley....man, saddest story in history of football. Tears just come out everytime when i see pictures of him with Defoe and him on the football pitch.

Deeply sad, but also deeply beautiful.

From the grit and spirit shown by Brad to the sense of community and care from the whole nation to the incredible role that Defoe played in making that little angel’s life more magical and hopefully taking an edge off his suffering.

Ok, I’m welling up.

Btw, Jermain Defoe, what a fecking player and what a solid bloke - would’ve LOVED him at Utd as a squad striker, had ‘Fergie player’ written all over him.

 

[Rhyme Animal]

Are we sure that he wasn't just roleplaying?

Not needed on this topic mate.

 

[horsechoker]

Not needed on this topic mate.

It wasn't needed on the other one either

 

[Red00012]

Let's for one moment assume that picture isn't fake can any body from England actually confirm what these guys could be charged with for this act , if it really happened this might be deplorable and in real bad taste but does it actually hold any legal implications .

What happened that guy at the cup final wearing the 96 t shirt ? Banned for life I presume ?

 

[Cascarino]

Oh, you were rather pleased with that, weren't you? Although when you nick a famous saying and try to adapt it for your own purposes, it generally works best if you manage to transpose the basic structure of it, which in this case rather relies on contrasting a temporary state with a permanent one. That's sort of the whole point.

Anyway, never mind about arrogant. Try inattentive in reading, lackadaisical in counting (there were 16 posts before duffers, but then you'd already know that if you paid attention to what you read) and generally unpleasant.

It was anti-humour, was trying to lighten things up between us, it's why I did the Jim Jones/Duffer thing. (Maybe calling you odd again didn't help with that purpose), anyways enjoy your Sunday fella

 

[AndySmith1990]

The vile behaviour that humans are capable of never ceases to amaze me. It's just appalling

 

[VorZakone]

The vile behaviour that humans are capable of never ceases to amaze me. It's just appalling

Imagine waking up, having breakfast, brush teeth, take a shower, and deciding "today I'm gonna display a photo of a kid who died from cancer to opposition fans."

I mean...what the hell is wrong with them?

 

[NicolaSacco]

Are we sure that he wasn't just roleplaying?

Dude!!!!

 

[justsomebloke]

It was anti-humour, was trying to lighten things up between us, it's why I did the Jim Jones/Duffer thing. (Maybe calling you odd again didn't help with that purpose), anyways enjoy your Sunday fella

Not really mission accomplished there, no. But it's the thought that counts - and I reckon I wasn't in the most receptive of moods either.

 

[glaspalast]

I hope the photo is genuine, because maliciously faking it is even worse.

 

[Eric_the_Red99]

That’s what I was thinking too. On what grounds they could charge them? You see fans mocking and chanting about the Munich and hillsborough tragedies all the time without any implication.

Ban them from all football grounds for life, sure. Name and share them so they will have to live with this for the rest of their lives - absolutely.

But a police matter? I don’t think so. Laws exist, correctly imo, to prevent people being targeted on the basis of protected characteristics, like race, sex or age, but I don’t know how something like this, or the Munich/Hillsborough mockery, can be included in that. I felt the same about the guy who was charged over the Captain Tom tweet. Once you start classing stuff like this as a public order offence, it seems like a very slippery slope, where tabloid-fuelled outrage is enough to land someone in prison.

 

[Cascarino]

Not really mission accomplished there, no. But it's the thought that counts - and I reckon I wasn't in the most receptive of moods either.

I'm glad we're cool, I'll work on my Churchill inspired one liners too.

 

[mu4c_20le]

It wasn't needed on the other one either

Agreed, it was only raised as a possibility when some of the mob was demanding an explanation. Despite it being absolutely none of their business.

 

[Penna]

Ban them from all football grounds for life, sure. Name and share them so they will have to live with this for the rest of their lives - absolutely.

But a police matter? I don’t think so. Laws exist, correctly imo, to prevent people being targeted on the basis of protected characteristics, like race, sex or age, but I don’t know how something like this, or the Munich/Hillsborough mockery, can be included in that. I felt the same about the guy who was charged over the Captain Tom tweet. Once you start classing stuff like this as a public order offence, it seems like a very slippery slope, where tabloid-fuelled outrage is enough to land someone in prison.

The ancient offence of "outraging public decency" has been used for things such as urinating on war memorials and burning poppies during the two minute silence on Armistice Day, if I recall. It used to be used for lewd acts which had been seen by two or more people in a public place, but now I think it's more nuanced.

If something makes the average person recoil and feel disgusted, you might say that public decency has been outraged. There was a case in the 1980s where an artist made and displayed earrings made from real dried human foetuses, and that was judged to have outraged public decency - I think most people with a healthy moral compass would agree with that.

 

[The Cat]

You know what’s actually funny about that?

The notion that they think by holding up a photo of a beautiful, strong human being with more fierce bravery and gnarly grit than they’ll ever have displayed is somehow an insult to opposition fans.

‘Look, this person was THIS much better a human than I am!’

Congrats, you must be really… proud!?

* In no way is this directed at your post I'm just picking out two words here*

"They think" is probably beyond them if this is true. Sub human.

 

[The Cat]

Looking back i think i actually cried when the news came out he'd died.

I know you hear things every day in the news but he must have inspired something in me to do that.

 

[MrMarcello]

The ancient offence of "outraging public decency" has been used for things such as urinating on war memorials and burning poppies during the two minute silence on Armistice Day, if I recall. It used to be used for lewd acts which had been seen by two or more people in a public place, but now I think it's more nuanced.

If something makes the average person recoil and feel disgusted, you might say that public decency has been outraged. There was a case in the 1980s where an artist made and displayed earrings made from real dried human foetuses, and that was judged to have outraged public decency - I think most people with a healthy moral compass would agree with that.

Did the video nasties fiasco fall under?

 

[Eric_the_Red99]

The ancient offence of "outraging public decency" has been used for things such as urinating on war memorials and burning poppies during the two minute silence on Armistice Day, if I recall. It used to be used for lewd acts which had been seen by two or more people in a public place, but now I think it's more nuanced.

If something makes the average person recoil and feel disgusted, you might say that public decency has been outraged. There was a case in the 1980s where an artist made and displayed earrings made from real dried human foetuses, and that was judged to have outraged public decency - I think most people with a healthy moral compass would agree with that.

More likely a section 5 public order offence? At least in the eyes of the police. I don’t think it fits any actual offence - statutory or common law.

 

[Norman Brownbutter]

I know it's said to have been authenticated, but it still looks fake as feck to me. What kind of phone has a screen that can get that bright?

 

[The Cat]

I know it's said to have been authenticated, but it still looks fake as feck to me. What kind of phone has a screen that can get that bright?

It just doesn't look right does it?

 

[Cloud7]

I wonder what possesses someone to think that doing this would be funny? I presume the intent was to be funny, or wind up the opposition or something, but choosing this of all things, surely you can't seriously think that this would go over well? Unless outrage and shock value are what you are after, but even then, why choose this?

 

[KiD MoYeS]

For those saying the image looks shopped - surely the 'original' image would have surfaced by now.

 

[Plant0x84]

Between this pair of cnuts and the tosspots who cut down the sycamore gap tree it’s not been a good week for humanity in the UK. Just absolutely braindead. Oxygen thieves, the lot of them!

 

[mu4c_20le]

For those saying the image looks shopped - surely the 'original' image would have surfaced by now.

Not if it was taken by the shopper.

 

[Jules_T]

From the BBC,

Dale Houghton, 31, from Rotherham, has been charged with a public order offence after being arrested on Saturday.

He is due to appear in court on Monday.

 

[redshaw]

Some phones have good oled screens that you can turn brightness and contrast up quite far. I guess you would do that if wanted people far away to see. The white bar at the bottom of the phone looks maxed out and the light levels changes between the 2 pics seem commensurate brightness and contrast of the phone images. I get what people are saying though it does look shopped, hopefully they've verified it with other shots or video feed.

 

[ROFLUTION]

We're going to (or already live) in a world where photographic evidence is about to be meaningless very soon. I'm not familiar enough with metadata (and EXIF info) but in this case you'd need corroboration by getting ideally the original photo (with said EXIF data) and some witness corroboration.

That's probably why people should hold off on "doxxing" or directly messaging before getting some verification. Well I thought it was true always, but doubly so no.

Yeah that'll be a huge problem the coming years. This is not even done good, but either with AI or with just a better photoshopper this could look like a small sentence for the lads.

I use midjourney.ai and some of the stuff is just mindblowing - All of this is AI generated for example. The possibilities are endless and you need more verification. Doxxing could go (even more) wrong in the future.

 

[André Dominguez]

They should had learned with the humour industry: You can make humour with the subject of cancer, but you can't make fun of a specific target, unless the person is some serial killer/rapists/etc.

But let's see if this ends up being real.

 

[Ekkie Thump]

These have been doing the rounds on twitter, but with the numbers still attached. Here's a redacted version. Looks to be the accused doubling down:

Spoiler: Big Pictures

 

[Santos J]

Pleads guilty. Sentenced next month.

 

[horsechoker]

Pleads guilty. Sentenced next month.

What an absolute whopper.

 

[Fr. Todd Unctious]

Pleads guilty. Sentenced next month.

Throw him into the home end at Sunderland. Let's see if the big brave man still thinks it's "funny" then

 

[AbusementPark]

I hope the photo is genuine, because maliciously faking it is even worse.

If it was faked it certianly is worse, this could happen to anyone of us at anytime at all. Trial by social media follows and you're automatically guilty, life is ruined after that, even if it was proven to be fake the damage has already been done and you will always be remembered for it.

 

[horsechoker]

Throw him into the home end at Sunderland. Let's see if the big brave man still thinks it's "funny" then

Throw him into a load of black cats (by which I mean panthers)

 

[Berbaclass]

Pleads guilty. Sentenced next month.

Well done to all the photoshop experts in here

and good. What an incredible pair of cnuts.

 

[horsechoker]

Well done to all the photoshop experts in here

and good. What an incredible pair of cnuts.

It's amazing how off the mark people are on here about most footballing matters, photoshop and body language.

 

[V.O.]

Apparently I'm just a peasant that has never actually seen a good phone then, fair enough.

Hopefully the pond life involved has the book thrown at him then, by both the court and the club. Still extremely uneasy with the "let's all ruin this fella's life" social media doxxing and pile on, mind.

Nice to see the charity foundation getting an uptick in donations off the back of this.

 

[Port Vale Devil]

Well done to all the photoshop experts in here

They we’re absolutely convinced it was photoshopped

 

[Judas]

what a sad little life must you lead to be doing that sort of shit at 31 years old? What use to society is someone that thick and nasty.

 

[evil_geko]

Well done to all the photoshop experts in here

and good. What an incredible pair of cnuts.

Experts or not, that photo looked real dodgy and fake, been working in PS for 20 years, it being real in the end doesn't negate that fact, but keep mocking everyone. No one said that is is 100% fake, just that it looks like that, which it does.