Who replaces Ten Hag?

[Gopher Brown]

The problem Zidane would have is that he would probably still be the best player in training

 

[Telsim]

I’m going to enjoy our first home game for a few years in the champions league, whilst remembering Ten Haag inherited a team in 6th that was in a downward spiral and took them to 3rd. Despite the start to the season. A massive achievement.

Solskjaer inherited a team that finished 6th that was in a downward spiral and took them to 3rd next season, and then 2nd. A massive achievement. How did that end up?

 

[NoPace]

Hard to get excited about anyone but De Zerbi as a replacement.

 

[Laurencio]

Hard to get excited about anyone but De Zerbi as a replacement.

He's the obvious candidate, and we always go for the obvious candidate, so that is a safe bet. For once the obvious candidate also has the same tactical needs, so at least that's an improvement. However, he'll run into a lot of the same issues unless the club starts recruiting better.

 

[Esquire]

Solskjaer inherited a team that finished 6th that was in a downward spiral and took them to 3rd next season, and then 2nd. A massive achievement. How did that end up?

So the suggestion from you is to fire ETH, rinse and repeat. What seems to be the common theme here is that for a lot of you, firing the manager solves everything. ETH has not been perfect this year but he is far from the biggest problem we have at this club.

 

[Esquire]

There isn't a managerial recruitment solution to the problems at the club. EtH is at least as good as any option available. If United are ever to shake themelves out of this 10-year funk, it will be because the owners have been replaced. Until that day, it'll be more of the same, yo-yoing between 2nd and 7th places and winning little/nothing.

Completely with you. Enough said.

 

[city-puma]

People have to accept the fact that we have to lower our expectations of this season significantly.
Let ETH find solutions and he should also play youngsters more. Everything will eventually work out I feel.

 

[york_cole_99]

If we don't get De Zerb it will haunt us for the next decade.

The art of coaching players who earn 200-300k a week requires a specific set skills.

Modern footballers who are set up financially for life need to believe in something beyond the win/loss or as Ten Hag puts it 'working hard' & 'high standards'

Every player who has worked under De Zerbi speaks glowing about him. How he seamlessly links life and football together. Every pass and movement you make has a purpose. Players are not just asked to make certain movements or actions but they understand the 'why'.

Ten Hag hasn't been able to link hard work and high standards with an overarching purpose in his coaching philosophy. That is why players look lost and disinterested when they rock up on the weekend.

 

[Dazzmondo]

Don't care about the 6-1 loss. I still think De Zerbi's very special and he's definitely the one I'd want to take over. The style of football he plays is what I want to see from Utd. That being said, I want us to have a new structure in place to give him the chance to succeed. If we brought him in now I don't see him being able to make the impact we need. We need the DOF (a real one) in place and this stupid takeover which might not end up even being a proper takeover sorted first.

 

[croadyman]

Really? It was clear nobody at the club was listening to Ralf because they didn’t like what he was saying.
With that as the context it’s understandable that Erik wanted a clean break.

Yeah they weren't listening because our board didn't want an outsider who knew a good player when we saw them. Would have exposed them for the clueless clowns everyone knows that they are.

 

[Amsterdam Devil]

If we don't get De Zerb it will haunt us for the next decade.

The art of coaching players who earn 200-300k a week requires a specific set skills.

Modern footballers who are set up financially for life need to believe in something beyond the win/loss or as Ten Hag puts it 'working hard' & 'high standards'

Every player who has worked under De Zerbi speaks glowing about him. How he seamlessly links life and football together. Every pass and movement you make has a purpose. Players are not just asked to make certain movements or actions but they understand the 'why'.

Ten Hag hasn't been able to link hard work and high standards with an overarching purpose in his coaching philosophy. That is why players look lost and disinterested when they rock up on the weekend.

The same was said about Potter.

 

[Dr Foo]

If we bring in the likes of De Zerbi now we would be setting him up for disaster too. No players that can fit his style of play, no structure to identify the correct players.

 

[Adebisi's Hat]

I am sick of the rinse and repeat with managers as it always ends up the same sh&t after a season of optimism. We cant just keep doing this so i'm all in with Erik even if it stays crap this season to give him a chance to finally clear out the remnants of the toxic players. However real change can only happen when the parasitic owners are finally gone, I think it will be like a cloud lifting over the entire club and will boost everyone right the way down to the admin staff.

 

[USREDEVIL]

Who replaces the person that replaces ETH? Let's start discussing this. Never too early innit?

 

[Eleven-Eighteen]

You lot are out of your damn minds! This thread jeez

Ten Hag is going to be the Manchester United manager for years, and when he does leave will have a redecorated our trophy cabinet.

He is the man for the job

 

[Oly Francis]

You lot are out of your damn minds! This thread jeez

Ten Hag is going to be the Manchester United manager for years, and when he does leave will have a redecorated our trophy cabinet.

He is the man for the job

Based on?

 

[Oscar Bonavena]

People have to accept the fact that we have to lower our expectations of this season significantly.

I think most already have, mate!

 

[Laurencio]

If we don't get De Zerb it will haunt us for the next decade.

The art of coaching players who earn 200-300k a week requires a specific set skills.

Modern footballers who are set up financially for life need to believe in something beyond the win/loss or as Ten Hag puts it 'working hard' & 'high standards'

Every player who has worked under De Zerbi speaks glowing about him. How he seamlessly links life and football together. Every pass and movement you make has a purpose. Players are not just asked to make certain movements or actions but they understand the 'why'.

Ten Hag hasn't been able to link hard work and high standards with an overarching purpose in his coaching philosophy. That is why players look lost and disinterested when they rock up on the weekend.

This is literally the argument people made here about Ten Hag two years ago...

 

[Eleven-Eighteen]

Based on?

Resume - his time at Ajax and the football he played was quite special
Signings - Amrabat, Mount, Casemiro, Licha, Hojlund
Tough decisions - Ronaldo, Sancho, De Gea
Results - trophy in his first year here, that home record last year
but mostly...vibes!

Yeah he has blind spots and he's no Pep or Alex Ferguson, but he's easily the most competent Manager available right now and the best one United have had since 2013

 

[Eleven-Eighteen]

This is literally the argument people made here about Ten Hag two years ago...

Exactly. Except wtf is a De Zerb compared to Ten Hag. Let's just fecking stick to a man for once.

Until we have owners, CEO, or a technical director who actually has a vision and the ability to execute against it, we cannot afford to trade managers like we do playes.

 

[Cantonagotmehere]

I think ETH will be here for a while.

For those mentioning Zidane, there is no way he would join this dumpster fire.

 

[christinaa]

Until the present owners go away no manager will be able to be successful.

 

[Redstain]

If we don't get De Zerb it will haunt us for the next decade.

The art of coaching players who earn 200-300k a week requires a specific set skills.

Modern footballers who are set up financially for life need to believe in something beyond the win/loss or as Ten Hag puts it 'working hard' & 'high standards'

Every player who has worked under De Zerbi speaks glowing about him. How he seamlessly links life and football together. Every pass and movement you make has a purpose. Players are not just asked to make certain movements or actions but they understand the 'why'.

Ten Hag hasn't been able to link hard work and high standards with an overarching purpose in his coaching philosophy. That is why players look lost and disinterested when they rock up on the weekend.

The reality is that Eriks coaching credentials have been overestimated and overstated due to what he presumably personified at Ajax. So whatever promise he showed in the Netherlands is 100% not reminiscent to what's being displayed at United.

That tells me that he's more in the mould of a manager than a prolific coach. Unfortunately too many managers at United of recent have illustrated the same pattern. Remains to be seen if the coaching can improve.

 

[James35]

League loss percentage since SAF.

Moyes 32%
EtH 29%
LvG 22%
Ole 22%
Jose 17%

The boss really needs to turn that around sharpish. His GD is by far the worst also.

 

[fallengt]

What has De Zerbi achieved?
Some odd win against big clubs here and there then lost 6-1 to midtable teams?

 

[Red Star One]

whoever it is, can we please hire DoF and have a transfer committee independent of manager.

 

[United Hobbit]

We are basically Liverpool in their barren spell

No manager will succeed under this structure. We need a proper DOF put in place before any decisions are made and a proper revamp put in place. No more jobs for the lads unless they have a proven CV

Remember how long it took Liverpool to get out the wilderness? We are at risk of the same

I am having serious doubts about ETH, but on one hand don't want him sacked as it means the snakes in the dressing room have thrown yet another manager under the bus, only to get yet another clean slate before rinsing and repeating. How I wish I knew what Ralf's assessment of them all was...

I think the injuries are on his side look how Liverpool toiled last season due to injuries. But how much blame should be appointed to him for them?

Also I can't think of a stand out replacement candidate. I'm just numb at this point really was excited when we appointed him

But why oh why are we not drilling the basics we give the ball away so easily, so many sloppy passes which constantly put us back under the cosh

Let's not forget it's not just this season we've been poor, it's particularly shocking but it was downhill from the league cup win

 

[Blood Mage]

Whoever it is should be hired by Ratcliffe or Jassim. The Glazers shouldn't get to make any further decisions about this club.

 

[NotoriousISSY]

The problem is, they've invested so much into what he wanted that sacking him almost automatically renders the big outlay on transfers as useless.

Onana, Martinez, Mount, Antony and Hojlund are his guys, players he wanted and all commanded excessive fees.

How do you replace him with 80-85% of the season left to play and make use of that?

The squad is an absolute clusterfeck and the club are responsible for giving him such influence on the personnel. No elite club in Europe operates like this, and it could be the nail in United's coffin.

 

[Robbie Boy]

Until the club moves away from an early 2000's model, it's a redundant question.

 

[IrishMcD]

People think he’d get Rashford putting in the effort of Mitoma? Or have the balls to drop Bruno? No one is getting a tune out of this current crop of absolute useless cowards. Someone might get a little reaction to start with but that just earns these players more time. I’d honestly rather see 90% of the squad gone before the manager, and I’ve lost faith in the manager months ago

 

[BorisManUtd]

What has De Zerbi achieved?
Some odd win against big clubs here and there then lost 6-1 to midtable teams?

De Zerbi is a nobody

 

[Ayoba]

Simeone

 

[thegregster]

Its just going to be a caretaker till the summer. God knows who that will be. Maybe Steve Bruce. Then we will appoint a flavour of the month manager. Probably the manager of whoever is this seasons CL surprise package or Amorim from Sporting.

 

[gaffs]

If we bring in the likes of De Zerbi now we would be setting him up for disaster too. No players that can fit his style of play, no structure to identify the correct players.

From what I have read about him at Brighton and Sassuolo, he drills his players to play in his way. His training sessions are really slow and meticulous.

It would be a massive change for these players who seem to play off the cuff with little to no direction.

Wouldnt be a good man to bring in mid season.

 

[gaffs]

De Zerbi is a nobody

Who is Ten Hag? Won a few leagues with Ajax, who massivly outgun everyone in Holland.

 

[gaffs]

Whoever it is should be hired by Ratcliffe or Jassim. The Glazers shouldn't get to make any further decisions about this club.

They are not picking managers anyway.

 

[TheNewEra]

Nobody just hope the Glazers sell, the problem isn't ETH

 

[lsd]

Nobody just hope the Glazers sell, the problem isn't ETH

The problem is very much both.

Ten Hag is not the man for United. We need a manager who actually understands where he is and what the task is.

Ten Hag thinks he just has to do the same thing he did at Ajax including surrounding himself with the same players.

It doesn't work that way.

 

[Marcus]

Which coach is successful with flash players? Zidane?