crossy1686
career ending
On a side note, I’m so glad we never made a bid for Richarlison. Was painfully obvious he was never good enough, had about 6 months of decent form and people were talking about him like he was Romario.
I suspect he’d have gotten the same result if he just asked ETH to leave. He’s been shit since he arrived so if he had an offer that might make both he and the club money, I can’t imagine they wouldn’t have listened.He basically engineered this move after getting an offer. Nobody shows such dissent as he as if they don't want out. Can't wait to see the back of him.
The club received a bid of £60m for him from Saudi Arabia right after his twitter post calling Ten Hag a liar. United accepted it and told his people but he fecked off to New York and had no intention of speaking to them.I suspect he’d have gotten the same result if he just asked ETH to leave. He’s been shit since he arrived so if he had an offer that might make both he and the club money, I can’t imagine they wouldn’t have listened.
*PedanticI'm extremely pathetic, will you fly me to Japan?
Can’t say I’ve heard that before. The story that seemed to be knocking around was we’d had a Saudi bid for a loan deal but they wouldn’t commit to a mandatory buy clause.The club received a bid of £60m for him from Saudi Arabia right after his twitter post calling Ten Hag a liar. United accepted it and told his people but he fecked off to New York and had no intention of speaking to them.
99% of caftards were delirious when he signed -- with an air of smugness due to the heavy discount from the summer before too.Classic caf.
It seems that my post missed the mark.*Pedantic
Not entirely due, there were some fairly clear issues with attitude from his time at City and Dortmund, and thats just the ones that were public. Plus German league stats need to be heavily discounted, then I read recently he prefers to play on left when we signed him to play on the right.99% of caftards were delirious when he signed -- with an air of smugness due to the heavy discount from the summer before too.
It only goes to show how hard it is to get transfers to integrate right. All his performance data points were legit and world-class. And yet...
Only 20/20 hindsighters here would criticise the transfer when looking back.
We've had an entire decade of staring contests every time TonyV got invited to turn left by his fullback. Now the opposite with Antony, passing back whenever he is shown onto the byline.Brilliant news. Sell him and buy a proper staring RW.
No, my response was tongue in cheek!It seems that my post missed the mark.
Yeah it's not like we panic bought him, it took two years of him playing fantastically well and THEN we got him. It was such a long transfer saga and it was really really hard to argue with it, because it felt like he was going to complete that front three of ours with Greenwood, Rashford and Sancho together.99% of caftards were delirious when he signed -- with an air of smugness due to the heavy discount from the summer before too.
It only goes to show how hard it is to get transfers to integrate right. All his performance data points were legit and world-class. And yet...
Only 20/20 hindsighters here would criticise the transfer when looking back.
An offer from who? He hardly blew up his chance at United to go to Saudi at 23. It'd be the end of his career at the top level.He basically engineered this move after getting an offer. Nobody shows such dissent as he as if they don't want out. Can't wait to see the back of him.
And also trueNo, my response was tongue in cheek!
Sounds like the exact profile of several United playersHe's never looked like a United player; shows next to no fight, seems totally un-arsed and sometimes unfit
Liverpool game last season, thought he was going to move on from there, sat I think VVD on his arse before finishing it calmly. Others would have shot it first time. Never thought after seeing that happen, that we would be here.Honestly cannot remember one memorable game from him here.
I mean the debate of who's better/worse would be akin to Guardiola and Ten Hag fighting over a comb.
I reckon that they'd have to sack Eddie Howe first, Sancho doesn't have the work ethic that Howe requiresWouldn't surprise me.
What do we reckon, little bit of time there before loaned to Newcastle on the cheap?
I think we all thought he’d go on to be a mainstay in the England team and be brilliant for us but his general application has been so poor that it’s hard to see how he will ever be the player we thought he could be.Would be brilliant really. I'm gutted how it's turned out as I thought he'd be a massive player for us and was buzzing when he signed. But I got that horribly wrong, abject failure of a signing.
Indeed, and he never will be as you say. His attitude is stinking, and anyone demanding hard graft and application will struggle to get anything from him. Between this transfer, Antony, Mount to name but a few, we seriously have to start getting our act together in that department.I think we all thought he’d go on to be a mainstay in the England team and be brilliant for us but his general application has been so poor that it’s hard to see how he will ever be the player we thought he could be.
I still remember the palpable disappointment in here when we wouldn’t pay £120m for him that summer. Could have been worse I guess.
We're seeing enough daft red cards without anyone doing that.We've had an entire decade of staring contests every time TonyV got invited to turn left by his fullback. Now the opposite with Antony, passing back whenever he is shown onto the byline.
I'd rather try something different and two-footed for once.
We have such ridiculous posts on here these days, it's difficult to tell if people are being serious, or having a laugh.We could have just kept Dan James and not bothered with either Sancho or Anthony.
Yes it is interesting and on a similar note I never felt Mata produced anywhere near his Chelsea best at this club. It seems if you're not blessed with pace or if you're not a big or powerful guy like Sheringham, Rooney or Cantona then attacking 10s with a lack of pace really struggle at United for some reason. Obviously Sancho is more of a winger but he lacks that dynamic quality too.Yeah it's not like we panic bought him, it took two years of him playing fantastically well and THEN we got him. It was such a long transfer saga and it was really really hard to argue with it, because it felt like he was going to complete that front three of ours with Greenwood, Rashford and Sancho together.
.... But it felt the same with Mikhataryan.
... And Kagawa.
The Premier League seems to just be a graveyard for Dortmund no10's and maybe no10's from Germany in general given Keita's trouble at Liverpool.
There are a few really good young English players who’d have been much better and infinitely cheaper signings for us with the benefit of hindsight. Eze, Olise, Gibbs-White to name three. Huge transfers rarely work out. Even more rarely from the BL. Doesn’t mean the BL is a bad source of players, just means I would hardly ever spend big money on a BL player unless they were unequivocally brilliant. Haaland, De Bruyne, Lewandowski level.We could have just kept Dan James and not bothered with either Sancho or Anthony.
TBF there were plenty of warning signs that most of us wanted to ignore. Including me. Was signed to play right wing, because that was our problem position, despite everyone knowing deep down he preferred the left. Never, ever possessed any extraordinary physical gifts, in that he wasn’t rapier quick or strong. Just a moderately quick acceleration. If you looked at a lot of his highlights from the BL, he tallied up great numbers taking advantage of space he wouldn’t be afforded in the PL, especially playing for a top team against low blocks. He also had lots of fitness issues at Dortmund, not so much with injuries, but returning from the off season in poor shape, being overweight etc. He was also admonished a few times for poor discipline and time keeping.He was phenomenal at dortmund. I can’t explain how you can look so good at that level and then be so flat. He was explosive there too, hasn’t shown any of thy here.