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One here tooWe don’t have any Aussies in this thread?
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One here tooWe don’t have any Aussies in this thread?
I’d say plenty do. It’s huge hereThat's the thing. Nobody from Australia actually gives a shit.
Few old cricket fans saw it coming tbh. The fact that the template India followed was built around two batsmen carrying the bat was their downfall in the end even though Rohit successfully did what he has been doing.I agree that we have been bat shit in knockouts for quite some time but this team really was playing exceptional cricket. The fact we absorbed Hardik's loss so easily was a testament to it. Both limited overs team now will require re-build or refresh so tough to see us replicate a similar run so soon.
You forgot Green who would be starting for almost all other teams.India have a bit of a problem with the type of players they're producing. Too many bowlers who can't bat at all, and too many batsman who can't bowl at all.
They've got a double of good all-rounders in Hardik and Jadeja. But the rest of the team are hopeless.
This Aussie team and the england team from the last WC bat deep. Thats why they're not reliant on someone carrying the bat. Australia also had the option of getting overs from not only Maxwell but Marsh as well. And they left Stoinis on the bench.
I feel the indian management have already started to realise that and you are seeing younger talents like Tilak Varma and Jaiswal being groomed, both of them can bowl.India have a bit of a problem with the type of players they're producing. Too many bowlers who can't bat at all, and too many batsman who can't bowl at all.
They've got a double of good all-rounders in Hardik and Jadeja. But the rest of the team are hopeless.
This Aussie team and the england team from the last WC bat deep. Thats why they're not reliant on someone carrying the bat. Australia also had the option of getting overs from not only Maxwell but Marsh as well. And they left Stoinis on the bench.
When they last won the WC, Dhoni and Raina were the 6th and 7th options for India. And Yuvraj got them 10, with Raina also chipping in with a few.
Pretty much. Over reliant on the top order. I honestly would've dropped Siraj and Kuldeep for Thakur and Ashwin.India have a bit of a problem with the type of players they're producing. Too many bowlers who can't bat at all, and too many batsman who can't bowl at all.
They've got a double of good all-rounders in Hardik and Jadeja. But the rest of the team are hopeless.
This Aussie team and the england team from the last WC bat deep. Thats why they're not reliant on someone carrying the bat. Australia also had the option of getting overs from not only Maxwell but Marsh as well. And they left Stoinis on the bench.
When they last won the WC, Dhoni and Raina were the 6th and 7th options for India. And Yuvraj got them 10, with Raina also chipping in with a few.
Thakur is pretty much useless. Don't think he would have made any difference. In fact today had nothing to do with selection. Our approach was bad. Australia brought their A game while India brought their C game.Pretty much. Over reliant on the top order. I honestly would've dropped Siraj and Kuldeep for Thakur and Ashwin.
Well I have the passport so ......@Wibble is one of the few Aussies on the caf.
Thing is, our approach when quick wickets go down is extremely limited. Having some batting down the order would definitely help but we didn't have the security. Plus, Siraj and Kuldeep were underwhelming this tournament.Thakur is pretty much useless. Don't think he would have made any difference. In fact today had nothing to do with selection. Our approach was bad. Australia brought their A game while India brought their C game.
Fantastic all round cricketer as well. Delivers with the bat at no. 9 whenever his team needs it.Congratulations to the Aussies - what a six months for Cummins.
WTC? Check
Ashes? Check
ODI WC? Check
Being an all round nice guy and hero? Check
You could tell nerves got to the players, and it started in the SFs. The sheer amount of extras you gave away in these knockout games, wides going for fours, byes from Rahul etc. they're all signs of a nervy team, where there was no sign of that in the previous 9 games. It's also like a big release when you're trying to build up pressure and turn the screw on the opposition. These byes / wides were coming after a few dot balls and just allowed the batters to rotate the strike.India are unlucky that all the small issues they had somehow got exposed today. Maybe Australia just did a great job of exposing these issues
- Long tail
-5 bowlers with Siraj slightly off
- Iyer dodgy against pace
- Middle order tendency to struggle on slow wickets
-KL being a part time keeper
India had this tournament set up for them,Hindsight is easy but I feel that Rohit’s new style is always a huge risk with a short batting lineup. He batted very well this tournament but the whole team batting well & Kohli having an exceptional tournament kind of didn’t let this being an issue. If you have 6 batsmen and Gill is already out then you are asking for trouble playing so many shots.
Those who write for the gutter press here. He is too woke as he asked not to have to personally do Alinta adverts, and some of the team took the knee with the West Indies team before the Perth test. This has been affecting the team's performance apparently. This post from Feb hasn't aged wellWhat bloke doesn't like Cummins
And in the end it is a single game which in this case turned on 2 batsmen having a very good day at the office. It happens.India are unlucky that all the small issues they had somehow got exposed today. Maybe Australia just did a great job of exposing these issues
- Long tail
-5 bowlers with Siraj slightly off
- Iyer dodgy against pace
- Middle order tendency to struggle on slow wickets
-KL being a part time keeper
I don't get the toss argument though. Did toss really favor india as they apparently only won 4 tosses thos whole tourney. England won 7 tosses.India had this tournament set up for them,
They really couldn't have asked for better circumstances.
Pitches, tosses. and circumstances had felled in Indias favor, yet they still fell short.
I agree having capable lower order batters help. I feel pandya's injury meant we were not able to play Ashwin. Do I think he would have made a difference? I don't. But in hindsight he would have been better than SKY.Thing is, our approach when quick wickets go down is extremely limited. Having some batting down the order would definitely help but we didn't have the security. Plus, Siraj and Kuldeep were underwhelming this tournament.
Gotta love Cumdog making the murdoch press seethe at any given moment.Those who write for the gutter press here. He is too woke as he asked not to have to personally do Alinta adverts, and some of the team took the knee with the West Indies team before the Perth test. This has been affecting the team's performance apparently. This post from Feb hasn't aged well
The game ended at like 4am AEDST,We don’t have any Aussies in this thread?
like everyone watching marnus.The game ended at like 4am AEDST,
I was soundly asleep for our Innings.
Travis Head has had massive abuse on his social media following the win yesterday - fans saying they want to rape and kill his wife and daughter (she's 1 year old). iirc, Kohli copped the same abuse a year or two ago.
He plays for New Zealand. How is he even being trolled? But look at the comments of Australian players and their families and it's the same. Leading to Glenn Maxwell's wife to speak out about the abuse because it is bordering on being properly threatening. Online fans don't represent the majority of people thankfully but it happens too often from Indian fans and a real shame that a bunch of people writing like 12 year olds blow up comments sections and ruin it for everyone else because they have insane amounts of jingoism and can't accept it's just a game at the end of the day.
That's horrendous. Gosh.Travis Head has had massive abuse on his social media following the win yesterday - fans saying they want to rape and kill his wife and daughter (she's 1 year old). iirc, Kohli copped the same abuse a year or two ago.
Some Indian fans (not all obviously) are horribly toxic and their accounts should be disabled.
I think it is just a coincidence because the better team has been batting second in most of these finals.The last 4 WC finals have now been won by the chasing team.
I think contrary to popular belief it probably is better to chase in these big high pressure games. You have a bad over bowling because of nerves, and you'll just go for runs. You have a bad over batting first, and you could be 2-3 wickets down quite quickly. It gives you more of a chance to settle into a game, and the batsman are under pressure to put up a total at the same time.
(Yes I'm ignoring the super over).