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Good riddance to a pointless useless arrogant petulant deluded little ring piece.
 

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Every day when I wake up at 6am to do my shitey job, I do a quick browse of redcafe and end up cursing Jadon Sancho.

Imagine having so much potential and talent and fecking it all away because you won't apologise to your manager. A manager who did feck all wrong, btw. Picking up £350k p/w to sulk, when all you have to do is say sorry. Most people would nosh off ETH for a chance at 350k. Nearly every poster here would go to absolute town on ETHs second bald head just to be a sub for Man Utd. Then you had Jadon Sancho who is is just throwing it all away to prove to the world that he is a massive, massive bellend.

feck Jadon Sancho. I hope the United twitter hits the "You love to see it" tweet first because I certainly will love to see the back of this selfish, entitled, arrogant, lazy wankstain.
 

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€3.5m covers I think roughly half of his ridiculous wage for the rest of the season.

Under the circumstances, I think that’s the best we could’ve hoped for. Fingers crossed Dortmund can get enough out of him to convince someone else to offer a decent enough wage so he can agree to part ways in the summer.

I’d say everyone has accepted that his transfer fee should just be written off as a bad cost and a clean break is best all round at this stage.
This could easily be the Maguire, Casemiro, AWB, Mount, Antony, and Onana thread.
 

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Had such high hopes when we signed him. But i'll be glad to be rid of him now. What a disappointment.
 

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Unmovable, bloated, cancer-riddled contracts where we end up paying a bitter little child probably the equivalent salary of an entire league 1 team, not to play for us.

I hate this club hierarchy so much.
 

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They are laughing at us. Sold him for 85m. Get him back for free and pay him only half his wages.
They are paying 30% of his wages plus a ridiculously low loan fee, every time laughs at us !
 

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I wouldn't get my hopes up, Dortmund have been a bit like United this season, minus the CL embarrassment, but in no way a team that made its attackers shine.
Sancho might be what you’re missing in attack. I’ve seen your creating quite a lot of chances.
 

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They are paying 30% of his wages plus a ridiculously low loan fee, every time laughs at us !
Dortmund have sold United some of their best players and taken some of their deadwood. How could they be any nicer?

Sancho might be what you’re missing in attack. I’ve seen your creating quite a lot of chances.
I'm genuinely wondering what games you watched.
 

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I'm genuinely wondering what games you watched.
Just guessing: Newcastle

Didn't Dortmund look quite good against them? But on the other hand having watched more than that of Dortmund this season I can safely say that Newcastle was the weakest team Dortmund had to play (of those that I have seen).
 

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What ever happened to selling players. All we seem to do is loan out.
we need to sell so we can spend another loan is depressing. Sancho Greenwood DVB et al.
 

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What ever happened to selling players. All we seem to do is loan out.
we need to sell so we can spend another loan is depressing. Sancho Greenwood DVB et al.
This. We got fecked so badly with the high wages that we can't sell a single fecking player.
 

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Some of the stick Jadon has received on here are unjustified, He goes out of his way to talk to staff, unlike some players, always in a happy mood and since he was moved out of the first team he has gotten his head down and got on with it, he was moved into the academy for months then in the past couple of weeks he was moved back into the u21s, we all thought he was getting ready to be moved back into the first team due to antonys performances, hope he does well in Germany and comes back in the summer when ETH has left the club
 

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What ever happened to selling players. All we seem to do is loan out.
we need to sell so we can spend another loan is depressing. Sancho Greenwood DVB et al.
This is because our players are mediocre and on high wages.
 

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What ever happened to selling players. All we seem to do is loan out.
we need to sell so we can spend another loan is depressing. Sancho Greenwood DVB et al.
Stop giving out high wages and you might be able to sell
 

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Some of the stick Jadon has received on here are unjustified, He goes out of his way to talk to staff, unlike some players, always in a happy mood and since he was moved out of the first team he has gotten his head down and got on with it, he was moved into the academy for months then in the past couple of weeks he was moved back into the u21s, we all thought he was getting ready to be moved back into the first team due to antonys performances, hope he does well in Germany and comes back in the summer when ETH has left the club
And you know all of this how?
 

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Stop giving out high wages and you might be able to sell
Yup. Going to be a few more years yet before we can filter out players who are overpaid and underperform. So long as our new hierarchy start working towards this anyway!
 

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Some of the stick Jadon has received on here are unjustified, He goes out of his way to talk to staff, unlike some players, always in a happy mood and since he was moved out of the first team he has gotten his head down and got on with it, he was moved into the academy for months then in the past couple of weeks he was moved back into the u21s, we all thought he was getting ready to be moved back into the first team due to antonys performances, hope he does well in Germany and comes back in the summer when ETH has left the club
TBF, it's not his fault that he was bought to play in a system/position that doesn't suit him. But his lacklustre performance is on him.
Maybe the frustration is more on the people who sanctioned his transfer at such high fees & wages.
 

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Fully expecting the Dortmund twitter admin to have the you love to see it tweet ready to send already.

Except this time we actually will love it because hes their problem for the rest of the season.
 

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Now that we have established he is eager for the move we should decline Dortmund's offer until they offer to pay his full wage, that will in turn force him to take a pay cut or stay with the reserves. Make it cost him substantial money if he wants to play high level football again. It's a loan move its not like we are rejecting 30m like we did with McT.
 

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Now that we have established he is eager for the move we should decline Dortmund's offer until they offer to pay his full wage, that will in turn force him to take a pay cut or stay with the reserves. Make it cost him substantial money if he wants to play high level football again. It's a loan move its not like we are rejecting 30m like we did with McT.
Dortmund would never pay his full wages in the current situation. They are not in dire need of a winger currently, but they would like additional squad depth. Sancho taking a pay cut is of course a different thing, United could try to do that to Sancho.
 

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Some of the stick Jadon has received on here are unjustified, He goes out of his way to talk to staff, unlike some players, always in a happy mood and since he was moved out of the first team he has gotten his head down and got on with it, he was moved into the academy for months then in the past couple of weeks he was moved back into the u21s, we all thought he was getting ready to be moved back into the first team due to antonys performances, hope he does well in Germany and comes back in the summer when ETH has left the club
Is this The Zol's burner account
 

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Every day when I wake up at 6am to do my shitey job, I do a quick browse of redcafe and end up cursing Jadon Sancho.

Imagine having so much potential and talent and fecking it all away because you won't apologise to your manager. A manager who did feck all wrong, btw. Picking up £350k p/w to sulk, when all you have to do is say sorry. Most people would nosh off ETH for a chance at 350k. Nearly every poster here would go to absolute town on ETHs second bald head just to be a sub for Man Utd. Then you had Jadon Sancho who is is just throwing it all away to prove to the world that he is a massive, massive bellend.

feck Jadon Sancho. I hope the United twitter hits the "You love to see it" tweet first because I certainly will love to see the back of this selfish, entitled, arrogant, lazy wankstain.
i think part of him knows that he won’t make it at united. So he decided to go against the manager and unofficially force his way out. He’ll go back go dortmund and might actually do well. Disregarding his attitude, he has actually failed as a footballer at united
 

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Now that we have established he is eager for the move we should decline Dortmund's offer until they offer to pay his full wage, that will in turn force him to take a pay cut or stay with the reserves. Make it cost him substantial money if he wants to play high level football again. It's a loan move its not like we are rejecting 30m like we did with McT.
The only positive we're getting from this transfer is the possibility of his value increasing. No team will pay his wages or anywhere near the fee United paid for him. As bad as it looks this might be the best offer for him at the moment.
 

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And ended up being just as shit. He got some nice pay out of his stint in England though. Can't fault his hussle.
Or his persistence in getting his fitness and form back. Following his Chelsea loan he returned to Monaco and started banging them in again, being a major reason they won the league in his first season back.

From Monaco’s point of view, it must have been one of the most successful loan spells ever. United and Chelsea might not agree.
 

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Or his persistence in getting his fitness and form back. Following his Chelsea loan he returned to Monaco and started banging them in again, being a major reason they won the league in his first season back.

From Monaco’s point of view, it must have been one of the most successful loan spells ever. United and Chelsea might not agree.
It was a bit more complicated than that. He didn't come back to Monaco in shape or with any confidence, it took him 6 months. Where these loans worked for Monaco is that it humbled him, when he cameback he admitted that he was wrong in the way he dealt things, he put both Monaco and himself in a bad spot by pushing for an exit at the last minute. He then worked hard to reach a very good level.
 

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Dortmund would never pay his full wages in the current situation. They are not in dire need of a winger currently, but they would like additional squad depth. Sancho taking a pay cut is of course a different thing, United could try to do that to Sancho.
That's what I am suggesting, put the ball in his court and tell him, 'the moment you are playing for another club we won't pay a dime of your wages and it's up to you to agree a wage with them'. If Dortmund don't want to pay his full wage and if can't take a paycut to get his career going then keep him stuck in the reserves for the duration of his deal.

We make upwards of 500m a year, paying him 250k won't break us but him not playing football for 2½ years will end his career. We can't continue to let these mercenaries get their way with us and get away with it. Some sacrifices are worth more than money and I believe this is a ideal scenario to put our foot down.

If he wants to play football again it has to cost him. Bending back over backwards for a chance at a fee that will never come, face it no one is buying him at those wages, is foolish and sets a bad precedence.
 

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The only positive we're getting from this transfer is the possibility of his value increasing. No team will pay his wages or anywhere near the fee United paid for him. As bad as it looks this might be the best offer for him at the moment.
There is no positive because even if we get someone to offer us a fee like 40m his wage demands will still torpedo any deal, haven't we seen this in precious bad transfers. There is literally zero chance of getting something for him unless a Newcastle or some Saudi club bites and keeping him, even if he returned to form, will be counterproductive because his wage will be a reference point for each renewal.

We need to break him so that he is desperate to get out and will take any offer that comes along. Whoring ourselves out hoping for a possible fee will only make us a laughing stock. Set a reasonably high loan fee, no wage contribution from us and tell his agent - find your player a club or he will play in the reserves until his contract expires. If he wants to play top level football again he will sacrifice, we shouldn't make it easy for him.
 

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I think he's been hard done by to be honest. He's not set the world alight but he's got a higher ceiling and his performance levels have been par/ better than anyone other than streaky Rashford and Bruno when he's on it.

His first season was very poor - I always think seasons are going to start poorly for new players when managers just keep them benched at the start and start talking about adapting...just throw the lad in.

His second season, he averaged a goal contribution every 2 games in the prem...which is far above the levels of Antony or Martial (and Bruno this season), who seem to be getting pass after pass tobe consistently poor and play.

This season, he looked good in the False 9 in pre-season and then got 70 odd minutes of football across 3 games...barely any time to do anything before getting outed by Erik after forcing us to watch Rashford and Martial lazily jog about in the opening games.
 

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Again another deferred decision till the summer along with Greenwood. Its absolutely crazy how things could have been so different if these two hadnt fire bombed their careers in different ways...
 

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I think he's been hard done by to be honest. He's not set the world alight but he's got a higher ceiling and his performance levels have been par/ better than anyone other than streaky Rashford and Bruno when he's on it.

His first season was very poor - I always think seasons are going to start poorly for new players when managers just keep them benched at the start and start talking about adapting...just throw the lad in.

His second season, he averaged a goal contribution every 2 games in the prem...which is far above the levels of Antony or Martial (and Bruno this season), who seem to be getting pass after pass tobe consistently poor and play.

This season, he looked good in the False 9 in pre-season and then got 70 odd minutes of football across 3 games...barely any time to do anything before getting outed by Erik after forcing us to watch Rashford and Martial lazily jog about in the opening games.
Ask yourself why ETH singled out Sancho and hasn't done the same for any other player.

I don't care about his performance level or ceiling at all anymore. Neither of them are remotely high enough to justify his actions this season
 

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Joao Felix wasn't suspended indefinitely by his coach though, so it's a bit apples and oranges.
And the business can't just operate on the same feelings of hate as you seem to. They are getting a (little) bit of money and the chance that he will leave next summer, maybe even for a little fee. The difference could be like 30m.
It's not coming from a place of hate. Ultimately, it's coming from a place of doing better business. Assuming Sancho is on 200k a week and is as insubordinate as we've been told, he would also be desperate to get out of the club. If Dortmund can only pay him 100k a week (assuming hypothetical figures here), why should he earn the entire Man United wage if he doesn't want to stay and fight for his place here. And that is how this situation is similar to Joao Felix. The player wanted to leave and was desperate to play there. So Atletico told him that they wouldn't pay him a single penny and he's getting what he's getting from Barca.

If the club subsidizes his wages, there's no guarantee that it'll be good business for the club in the long term. Look at our previous loaned out players. We got nothing for Sanchez, nothing for Bailly, nothing for Van De Beek (when at Everton) and nothing for Martial. The players who aren't cutting it out for us should not be getting their full United wages if the clubs who loan them aren't going to pay it. If they want to sit around and let their careers stall, so be it. Ultimately it would come down to the player and I'm quite sure that the player would bend.
 

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It's not coming from a place of hate. Ultimately, it's coming from a place of doing better business. Assuming Sancho is on 200k a week and is as insubordinate as we've been told, he would also be desperate to get out of the club. If Dortmund can only pay him 100k a week (assuming hypothetical figures here), why should he earn the entire Man United wage if he doesn't want to stay and fight for his place here. And that is how this situation is similar to Joao Felix. The player wanted to leave and was desperate to play there. So Atletico told him that they wouldn't pay him a single penny and he's getting what he's getting from Barca.

If the club subsidizes his wages, there's no guarantee that it'll be good business for the club in the long term. Look at our previous loaned out players. We got nothing for Sanchez, nothing for Bailly, nothing for Van De Beek (when at Everton) and nothing for Martial. The players who aren't cutting it out for us should not be getting their full United wages if the clubs who loan them aren't going to pay it. If they want to sit around and let their careers stall, so be it. Ultimately it would come down to the player and I'm quite sure that the player would bend.

Because he can decide to sit his comtract out?
 
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