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Mckenna could be interesting and ballsy choice .
Ballsy is an understatement. He's only really into his full second season as a full time senior manager.Mckenna could be interesting and ballsy choice .
I actually think lack of experience as Manager shouldn't be a deal breaker if we believe candidate has other attributes we are looking for in our new coach .Ballsy is an understatement. He's only really into his full second season as a full time senior manager.
Flashbacks from him teaching Ronaldo and co how to angle their runs. We have some big egos and they won't listen to a nobody like McKenna. He needs to prove he's got it and come up the pyramid like any regular manager.Mckenna could be interesting and ballsy choice .
I wouldn't mind him - he did about as well as De Zerbi during Brighton days. On an interim we can't get anyone better.Slightly concerned about the Potter links. INEOs will lose abit of belief in the fanbase if they were to bring him in.
Yeah I keep pleading with a mid table team to hurry up and appoint Potter so he's off the marketI would have thought there would be a separate Graham Potter thread about this as it was rumoured previously but this is quite a convincing story. It’s becoming quite a real thing now
i woukd have serious concern. Looked like a deer in the headlights at Chelsea and if we think the pressure at utd will be any less….if anything it will be more
but feck all I can do about it. I will hope he succeeds if they bring him in
Not too hard?Yeah, it's certainly not impossible that he does, and it's hard to find reliable information on things like that, but it'd be a big question mark for me.
Outside of Varane and Casemiro what exactly have any other player from United have achieved to warrant big ego's , yes Mckenna is virtual nobody apart from being just another promising young manager but same is true for most of United's squad they are also nobody in grand scheme of things .Flashbacks from him teaching Ronaldo and co how to angle their runs. We have some big egos and they won't listen to a nobody like McKenna. He needs to prove he's got it and come up the pyramid like any regular manager.
Ten Hag being a failure most definitely doesn't mean we should have stuck with Ole. Both have no business managing a top club. Back then, the choice was between Pochettino, a known bottler and a subpar manager, and Ten Hag, an unknown. It was worth it as a calculated risk, but it didn't pay off. We just need to know when to cut our losses and move on. Have him finish the season to reduce his compensation, while making plans for the next manager, then get rid and replace as soon as possible. And I believe that is what Ratcliffe is planning to do. Ten Hag is finished here, rightfully so, it's just a matter of time.Should have stuck with him. To think all those people who wanted him out criticising lack of playing style and who wanted Ten Hag in promising he would be so much better.
Instead we are playing worse football as bad as the Van Gaal days with no sign of any game plan We get outplayed by every team we face.
Every day we don't sack Ten Hag we just slip further back and further and further from every getting back to where we want to be.
unfortunately at man united players are given huge contracts for not really doing much. They can go (at the age of 21) from playing in the German league on a fairly humble (in footballing terms) wage to being one of the premier leagues highest earners. Also we still have players in this squad, in this dressing room that were here 6 years ago. The younger lads (rashford) have also grown up learning from these players. It’s a continuous cycle.People have been saying similar for 6+ years. In that time the squads been turned over at least twice.
It's about Inzaghi, not Maldini.
I think you are right and he doesn't speak a lot of english, one of his players mentioned it. In searching for this I also saw that us and Chelsea have been linked with him.It's about Inzaghi, not Maldini.
Richard Keys had this narrative going a year ago, too, maybe we should pay closer attention to unspecified commentary coming from attention-seeking media pundits.Just seen what Fabregas said about alarm bells ringing at Old Trafford and that we looked like we had more of a plan under Solskjaer
Seems the media and those not watching us each week have finally had the penny drop and they're seeing what most of us are seeing.
Maybe they're right in some ways. Not saying that Ole had a winning formula, as he didn't, but the signs have been there with ETH. Just because they're pundits, it doesn't make their opinion less valid than yours or mine. And Fabregas was a top class footballer.Richard Keys had this narrative going a year ago, too, maybe we should pay closer attention to unspecified commentary coming from attention-seeking media pundits.
Ole was the epitome, the very top of Manchester Uniteds top brass ineptitude. He had good ideas but like all ex top player jumped in top club manager in the space of 2 years, he failed miserably everytime he came up against a manager that could adapt to his basic counter setup. Ole flipped every tactic, changed 3 or 4 times shape sometimes in one game, went from 5-3-2 to 3-4-3 to 4-3-3. But when he finally did somehow manage to make it work with a young and fast forward line, here come whatshisname and sign Ronaldo in his tractorspeed years.Funny feeling it might be Ole back.
I somewhat agree with that as is the case of someone like Xabi Alonso who probably has had a similar amount of managerial expereince as McKenna. I think the point I wanted to make without being obvious at all (my bad, apologies) is that I feel he lacks the experience of managing big players and was never a big name himself unlike the likes of Xabi Alonso, Zidane etc who came in from relative managerial obscurity. I dont think he would have the same sort of respect and there's a real threat I feel with the culture that we have at this club of players undermining him.I actually think lack of experience as Manager shouldn't be a deal breaker if we believe candidate has other attributes we are looking for in our new coach .
Surely we've learnt our lesson with Moyes.Would Potter be that terrible? He was highly rated at Brighton and though he tanked at Chelsea, everyone does that especially under Boehly. I think that Ashworth is a good judge of character and talent
Surely we've learnt our lesson with Moyes.
Potter's best achievement is finishing 9th in the premier league on 51 points... And then flopped at a big club. In what universe would he be the #1 candidate to take the biggest job in English football. He shouldn't even be on the top 10 list.
LVG was an elite coach, Mourinho also. Popular opinion was that ten Hag was elite when he came to us.We need an elite coach. McKenna is not one. Potter is not one.
Project coaches sound good in theory, but noone is getting time. It's a results business....one season at best to build like Erik got.LVG was an elite coach, Mourinho also. Popular opinion was that ten Hag was elite when he came to us.
Maybe we do need a “project manager” to go with the INEOS plan. Elite coaches aren’t in it for the long term possibilities, it’s the short term successes. This club is not in for any short term successes I fear, it needs a root and branch clear out. IMHO Lindelof, Dalot, Varane, Maguire, Evans, Malacia, Casemiro, Eriksen, McTominay, Fernandes, Rashford, Sancho, Antony, Amad, Pellistri, Van de Beek, Martial, Greenwood, Williams, Heston, Bayindir all have to go. That’s more than 20 players needing replacing, no elite coach wants to oversee that. Arteta wasn’t viewed as an elite coach when he got the Arsenal gig, he had to oversee a similar overhaul, he is now on his way to being an elite coach.
I'm shocked Devilish, a reasonable take on two British managers!Moyes was in the worst situation imaginable. He was thrown as SAF's replacement (who was United's manager, assistant manager, DOF, Sporting director and head of recruitment all rolled in one) in an arrogant United who thought that they had the knees bees when all they had was a mix of ageing legends and workhorses and was also stripped by the brilliance of David 'I stay until SAF stays' Gill. We've seen it afterwards that no manager can get this shit sorted on his own.
I am not a big fan of Potter but I've recently watched a video from Athletic which revealed what a shambles Chelsea was during his tenure. I would prefer Inzaghi to him but United need to hit the ground running and getting a 'transitional' manager that the sporting director trusts and who would allow changes to be made without any fuss isn't the worst of plans either
20 players! Just brilliant.LVG was an elite coach, Mourinho also. Popular opinion was that ten Hag was elite when he came to us.
Maybe we do need a “project manager” to go with the INEOS plan. Elite coaches aren’t in it for the long term possibilities, it’s the short term successes. This club is not in for any short term successes I fear, it needs a root and branch clear out. IMHO Lindelof, Dalot, Varane, Maguire, Evans, Malacia, Casemiro, Eriksen, McTominay, Fernandes, Rashford, Sancho, Antony, Amad, Pellistri, Van de Beek, Martial, Greenwood, Williams, Heston, Bayindir all have to go. That’s more than 20 players needing replacing, no elite coach wants to oversee that. Arteta wasn’t viewed as an elite coach when he got the Arsenal gig, he had to oversee a similar overhaul, he is now on his way to being an elite coach.
Funny feeling it might be Ole back.
I believe that a post is a snapshot of what that person would know at the time. As new information emerges then we, as posters, should be humble enough to change our opinion accordingly. There's no chance in hell that Moyes was going to be able to replace SAF but that applies to any other manager. That's because SAF was not just a brilliant manager but also a brilliant Sporting director, a brilliant head of recruitment, a brilliant DOF, a brilliant technical director and and a brilliant assistant manager all rolled in one/I'm shocked Devilish, a reasonable take on two British managers!
I think there's no doubt the Chelsea job was and still is a huge poisoned chalice. Boehly as DoF led to loads of money spent and a completely unbalanced side, ill equipped to deal with the PL in the short term. Perhaps some of their players can be salvaged but introducing so many young players at once has killed them. They've got some ageing players to lead but they're all past their best on the pitch. And that's just this season, they've spent considerably since Potter was sacked and are still struggling.
In hindsight he was set up to fail and I can't understand people who want to use that season to define what had been a very promising career prior.
Do you think they are good enough? Maybe you didn’t watch that drivel today.20 players! Just brilliant.
You realise Arteta has brought in over 20 players in 3 years yeah? It’s not that ridiculous.20 players! Just brilliant.
I would say yes, even though I never liked Tuchel's style.Would people here like Tuchel?
I think he will be a great short term option. He's a tactical genius but kinda troublemaker and usually loses his players quickly. He can give us a solid one or two years until a more long term option is available. We should be ready to move on from him quickly when things go south though.
We aren't going to make a squad overhaul in one summer.I wouldn't touch ETH until summer anyway.
If the new manager comes in right now, a bunch of players who are proven to be not good enough will start putting a shift and actually look decent. Then we won't sell them in the summer and they story will end the same way it does every year.
Get new manager in may, do a complete squad overhaul QUICKLY and move on to preseason. Best thing we can do now.
We had a really easy run of fixtures coming up and Ole would've bounced back.Ole had utterly lost the plot / dressing room in his last season. It was worse anything we've seen since - worse than Rangnick (with the same players), worse than ETH. Ole absolutely needed to go.
Maybe. But I don't like they idea of a bunch of people continuing next season. And we know them. And we know they'll give their all in the next 2 months to impress the new manager and then revert to being awful.We aren't going to make a squad overhaul in one summer.
Is what we hear every summer. At some point it will be neededWe aren't going to make a squad overhaul in one summer.