They've also actually begun the Rafah ground invasion a day or so ago anyway:
Pics are from Al Jazeera but article here - Recent Israeli strikes signal start of Rafah operation, says Palestinian foreign ministry | Middle East Eye
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Pics are from Al Jazeera but article here - Recent Israeli strikes signal start of Rafah operation, says Palestinian foreign ministry | Middle East Eye
It's not a ground invasion though but yeah they have been killing civilians and destroying their homes for some time in Rafah now.They've also actually begun the Rafah ground invasion a day or so ago anyway:
Pics are from Al Jazeera but article here - Recent Israeli strikes signal start of Rafah operation, says Palestinian foreign ministry | Middle East Eye
That's fine but I'm still at a loss as to how the statement by itself is an anti semitic one?
The problem for me is that the fundamental premise of it is irrelevant.
I don't accept the premise that Rachel Riley or Stephen fry can fly to the land tomorrow and move to Jerusalem or Ariel or Hebron and have instantly more rights than a Palestinian who lives in Jerusalem, Jericho or Hebron. This is regardless of whether Ashkenazis originate from Khazars or from the same genetic ancestors as the mizrahi Jews (which is my own understanding).
Could you give us a summary of your issues with his comments about the Hebron massacre, as opposed to a 42 page essay?
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Your friend is lucky that he lives in a time and place that is relatively safe. Although in the past couple of months, I wouldn't be so sure about that too. Maybe he would be speaking differently if he had lived during the Roman Empire, 14th century Spain, 19th century Russian Empire, Ottoman Empire, or basically anywhere during WWII, Hungary, Poland, Belarus just to name a few (not to mention the Arab world after 48). There lies your answer why your friend has the "right to rock up to the land of Israel tomorrow".
Regarding what is disputed here I will say this. Both sides have legitimate claims and neither will be able to get absolute justice. Ever. Both sides have to accept that the second one is going nowhere and a model of coexistence must be found.
On Ethiopian Jews, I am no expert on genetics and anthropology, so I will ask a stupid question. How did they become Jews in the first place? How did they discover Judaism?
It’s a fecking disgrace what Israel has got away with and the national communities has stayed silent on the issue.
The analysis regarding 1929 is approx. 5 pages. I am not going to make summary of that. I already said, it is the way he use his sources. I think I spent already enough time on Chomsky.
Ah, I missed the asterisk and footnote on my kindle. I agree the footnote is a problematic framing of the context of the Hebron massacre, although not to the same degree as Cohn. I don't see any problem with framing the violence of 1929 in terms of, and at that point the most serious manifestation of, Palestinian resistance to Zionism, or as Chomsky puts it, to Balfour's "point of view". It's unclear why exactly Cohn does - the Shaw Commission which he goes on to cite favorably reached a similar conclusion.
I'd agree with him that Jewish designs on the Wall, while undoubtedly provocative, were just one element fueling the escalating tensions in Jerusalem that summer, and it's dishonest of Chomsky to leave his brief account at that and omit all mention of Palestinian politics, the Mufti, and the events of the previous summer in the matter. Likewise for Chomsky to emphasize the influence of interwar fascism on the Revisionists while ignoring analogous developments among Arab nationalists of the same era.
I have no opinion on the credibility or otherwise of Vincent Sheean as a witness, but Cohn seems especially troubled by Sheean's linking of events in Jerusalem to the Hebron massacre that occurred days later (and presumably by Chomsky's supposed implication that ultimately Jewish actions in Jerusalem produced the massacre). However, the most recent and thorough account of 1929 (which I highly, highly recommend btw) makes it clear that rumors reaching Hebron and elsewhere from Jerusalem absolutely played a role in the violence:
"The attackers in Jaffa, Hebron, and other places in 1929...were not part of a professional force on a mission and had not been trained as fighters. Rather, they were a large group of people who were driven to act after learning (or hearing rumors about) what had happened in Jerusalem...
...Reports that Arabs had been murdered in Jerusalem reached Hebron on Friday afternoon. Highly exaggerated, the rumors claimed that Jews had killed huge numbers of Muslims...
...The Arabs of Qalunya beset Motza at the very same time that Hebron's Arabs attacked that city's Jews...The hyperbolic rumors [that Jews had attacked Muslims when they emerged from prayers at al-Aqsa Mosque and had killed hundreds of them] incensed the village. The inhabitants began to plot an attack on their Jewish neighbors.
...The skirmishes over the Western Wall and al-Aqsa caused tension and discord in Safed as well. Rumors about events in Jerusalem reached Safed much elaborated, describing a Jewish attack on al-Aqsa and the city's Muslim community."
More broadly, Cohn presents Chomsky's brief analysis of 1929 as an example of his "anti-Zionism", but it's not clear to me that Chomsky is necessarily an "anti-Zionist". While he is of course scathing in his account of the actions of the early Zionist movement and subsequent Israeli policies, his deepest critique is reserved for the US role in facilitating those policies, and this is in line with his belief in focusing one's critical attention on the power you might actually have the capacity to influence. I think this approach is pretty dumb in some ways, but it is also a feature of his approach to, for example, modern day Turkey and its Kurdish question. In any case, last I checked Chomsky was still wedded to the two-state solution as the only realistic settlement, so perhaps "non-Zionist" might better describe him than "anti-Zionist", although that's not too important to dwell on. In any case, I don't see how any of this is representative of any kind of antisemitism on Chomsky's part.
Yes, I agree with bolded part, that is not antisemitism. I should have put it into the same category as Zizek criticized him.
A good CNN piece about the growing movement to reestablish pre-2005 Israeli settlements in Gaza.
These people are sick, but what really amazes me is the gaslighting. That Weiss lady in particular sounds like a dangerous basket case - "We're not cleansing them, they're cleansing us, so we need to re-settle Gaza to stop that".
Good poll for Israel: https://www.pewresearch.org/2024/03/21/views-of-the-israel-hamas-war/
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e - the stalled Ukraine bill criminalises private donations (like I have made) to UNRWA
Also some Palestinian polling published yesterday -https://www.pcpsr.org/en/node/969
35% of all Gazan buildings have been destroyed.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...-gazas-building-destroyed-un-says-2024-03-21/
https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...-gazas-building-destroyed-un-says-2024-03-21/
And then he will give s strong stern look at bad bad bad netanyahu. Who he doesn't phone since last weekend
Depressing reading.
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Madness. And then they wonder why us children of refugees have a strong dislike for USA and their machinations around the world.
amazing how politically/nationally/religiously conscious they are. other national struggles have been ended or demoralised much faster and with less casualties.
game recognize game...if israel is to become a project as successful as the US, it needs to do a good cleansing.
a century later they can catch up to the modern US and do the land acknowledgements.
No appartheid at all
What is wrong with these people? disgusting.
Al-Jazeera has just published a leaked drone footage of the IDF executing 4 civilians by bombing them from the drones. They had no weapons on them, the images are so graphic I will not post it here. If anyone wants to see the video, check it on twitter or Al-Jazeera.
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Religious fanatics are the root of evil.
There was tweet a few week back showing a side by side of a native land sales from the 1800’s America and 2024 land auction in the West Bank.
Really bleak.
Imagine what the cameras haven't caught.
Alex Jones posted a tweet about that footage stating that Israel is committing genocide.
Finishing what their missile from months ago couldn't.
Saw it, beyond disturbing.
I lost a few days of my life arguing against someone on here who had the stance that, no you actually can't compare this to apartheid
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Well, that someone doesn't know the meaning of it. He might well say that a chair is called a table
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Eylon Levy has been suspended due to this.
U.S. Gaza ceasefire resolution vetoed by China, Russia at UN Security Council
https://www.axios.com/2024/03/22/us-ceasefire-resolution-veto-un-security-council
I have seen another video showing a similar incident, it's beyond sickening. This isn't about Hamas or even revenge, it's a genocidal game for a depraved entity.