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Good point BIG Ron.What's wrong with wanting more bang for your buck???
Good point BIG Ron.What's wrong with wanting more bang for your buck???
Jesus Christ lad. Read it all. There’s context.Onana wasn't dumb money either, that's my point. Raya was better value, but that doesn't make Onana's fee bad business, just worse value. You literally said "dumb money"
If he can show the same intensity in defending in his next few cameos I think he’ll be sticking around. The last game was obviously hard to draw any conclusions fromI know he scored a great goal at the weekend but he's yet to show he's a keeper, let's face it. Maybe he will (in which case ETH can have the credit)
Maybe they completely forgot he recently signed for Real Madrid, thus making him impossible to get Honestly, what a weird questionIt is.
If people are moaning about what he said, i hope they aren't the same people moaning previously that we paid too much for the likes of Antony, Onana, Sancho et al.
How many times do I have to state that the Raya deal unquestionably the BETTER VALUE deal for Arsenal, than Onana was for United? This is like the third time I'm typing this out, it's frustrating that you don't seem to comprehend what I'm saying. Both of us are in agreement regarding this.Jesus Christ lad. Read it all. There’s context.
- United are unequivocally the dumb money on the end of every deal.
- We pay too much, when we’re not competing with anyone for signatures.
Nobody else was offering the money for Onana that we were.
Are you honestly suggesting that paying £44m for a player new to the league, is a better bet than a £3m loan fee for a PL proven keeper that’s among the best in the league for everything we’re looking for?
It was a fecking insane decision and was dumb. It’s endemic in our club. We had no canny people doing smart things. That’s dumb money.
To close… I think Onana is a better keeper that Raya. But he’s paid 5x more. We paid £41m more to find out if he’d work here. He had AFCON commitments (admittedly we MAY not have know ). And… Arsenal are comfortably in the top 3 for a £3m outlay. His signing was not bad. He’s a great keeper. But it was properly nutty to spend £44m instead of £3m + a potential £27m to secure a ballplaying keeper.
You’ll be proven 100% correct if he stays for a decade and we win a PL/CL. But a team better ran than us, solved the problem cheaper. That’s evidence of being dumb.
It’s rammed home by the fact that he’s an EtH guy. If the new manager doesn’t rate him or want what he has… he’s Kepa, or any of the other keepers Chelsea have doubled a small fortune on.
Honestly, two things can be true at the same time. He is brilliant. But it wasn’t a smart way to fill that position, considering the state we are in.
I see what you did there - amazing.. =)"Would you sign a player that will cost approximately €500 million in total over 5 years which only includes transfer fees and salary while your club is in need of a new stadium and at least 6 new players to be competitive again?"
That's a dumb question I'd have to say. He's obviously unfit and I have no nerves.
I genuinely think ETH is really good with young players and that's another reason why we should keep him.If he can show the same intensity in defending in his next few cameos I think he’ll be sticking around. The last game was obviously hard to draw any conclusions from
He is. He has brought all the decent young players along nice and steady.I genuinely think ETH is really good with young players and that's another reason why we should keep him.
Well except SanchoHe is. He has brought all the decent young players along nice and steady.
True!Well except Sancho
We could have had Haaland for £20m if we'd had our shit together. It's reasonable that the next Mbappe isn't going to have had his dad kicked by Roy Keane (well... more reasonable anyway) either, which decomplicates matters.Didn't PSG sign Mbappe for a ridiculous fee when he was 18? The next Mbappe is going to cost an absolute fortune unless he has a low buy out or his contract runs out. This idea that we get an 18 year old for 20 mill that turns out to be as good as Mbappe is just nonsense. Signing Mbappe right now on a free won't be that much more since the next superstar striker will easily be 120 mill plus
Something he doesn't get too much credit for, especially in the media.I genuinely think ETH is really good with young players and that's another reason why we should keep him.
Coulda woulda shoulda. At the end of the day we never got him and the odds of us getting a world class striker for peanuts is miniscule. That's just a factWe could have had Haaland for £20m if we'd had our shit together. It's reasonable that the next Mbappe isn't going to have had his dad kicked by Roy Keane (well... more reasonable anyway) either, which decomplicates matters.
Not really relevant. Ratcliffe never said or implied it was easy. That's what good football clubs do, they beat the odds. On and off the pitch.Coulda woulda shoulda. At the end of the day we never got him and the odds of us getting a world class striker for peanuts is miniscule. That's just a fact