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Define who a top manager is, who isn't past it and would actually accept the job?Can you please mention top any recent one,Capello was past it before becoming england manager
Define who a top manager is, who isn't past it and would actually accept the job?Can you please mention top any recent one,Capello was past it before becoming england manager
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I absolutely hated Maguire 9-12 months ago and wanted him out, but credit where it's due, he has really turned things around and shown tremendous resilience and leadership. I'd happily keep him in this team (where set pieces are important) ahead of basically a nobody in Colwill and Braithwaite (the new Maguire at best)But that's one of the problems he has made for himself with Maguire. His persistence in those lows and when he's not even been playing has hampered the development of many others like Tomori and is now going to hamper the development of the next cohort like Colwill and Branthwaite.
I'm not sure the job is half as enthralling to "top managers" as you're suggesting to think they're going to attract one. The pool of international managers is nothing special.England is the Country Version of post Sir Alex United. England appoints either past it or Average Managers.
One would expect a country of England's status in football to hire top Managers.After Southgate,they will still hire another average/past it Manager
I don't know if Mainoo is the answer. Don't get me wrong, he looks to be a great talent, but more he's more In the Paul Ince mould than the Michael Carrick.Agreed, completely, however on the point the Henderson/Phillips/Gallagher all competing for the same position it does seem likely that Southgate will turn to Mainoo. And when he does, England’s midfield will dramatically improve.
You'd actually be surprised by their league passing stats this season:Well yeah I think all those would be interesting options well worth a look. Mainly because they can pass a ball if nothing else.
Garner is better than Phillips and Gallagher for sure.
He reminds me of a young Roy Keane or even a Bryan Robson and Paul Ince. A typical box to box player.Your assessment concerns me in no way. I see Mainoo as having the ability to be both a productive risk taker and a metronome, as circumstances require. Early days and we all know about potential not realized, but we are witnessing the budding of an United and England legend.
What? Did he actually wear his RM jersey? Can't find anything on it.It was also nice of Bellingham to report for England duty in his Real Madrid jersey. The lad seemed more at home with his Brazilian club mates than his English teammates.
It's a fecking friendly. And he's for all purposes still a young kid.It was also nice of Bellingham to report for England duty in his Real Madrid jersey. The lad seemed more at home with his Brazilian club mates than his English teammates.
In fairness, Britain is England.1771095558976938403[/MEDIA]
Yeah, people with no knowledge.In fairness, Britain is England.
Lots of people think of Scotland, Wales and N Ireland as regions of England.
You're right, and it's not like England need a top level manager to finally win a tournament either.I'm not sure the job is half as enthralling to "top managers" as you're suggesting to think they're going to attract one. The pool of international managers is nothing special.
If England get rid of Southgate the best sort of name they'll get is someone like Eddie Howe reeling from his inevitable sacking. Which would probably be a slight upgrade.
Top managers want to challenge themselves in top competitions which means club football not babysit England at tournaments once every couple of years. It's only when they're over the hill they go into it.
Capello was hired 1 year removed from winning a hyper competitive LaLiga with Real Madrid over Ronaldinho-Messi Barcelona, Valencia of Villa and Sevilla(winners of EL)Can you please mention top any recent one,Capello was past it before becoming england manager
This. Though I don't see Pochettino or Mourinho being interested either. Poch is working at Chelsea and Mou is pretty clear he still wants a club, not a national team. Howe, maybe...You're right, and it's not like England need a top level manager to finally win a tournament either.
Tactics don't matter that much in World Cups and Euros. You just need to give your team a good balance and more likely than not, you'll go deep with a squad that England have. If Southgate leaves without winning anything, they'll just need to appoint someone like Pochettino/Mourinho/Potter/Howe, and they'll be even bigger favorites than before.
Granted he has played well in the big tournaments and is particularly valuable at that level where it's more of a set-piece game. However, international managers often run into trouble when they persist with their declining stars from previous tournaments. We can see some of the signs with Maguire making mistakes that lead to goalscoring opportunities fairly frequently now for England. I don't think Southgate has done the succession planning well at all there given the number of low-risk games he has inbetween tournaments to bleed in the next generation. And it's pretty much too late now.But that's one of the problems he has made for himself with Maguire. His persistence in those lows and when he's not even been playing has hampered the development of many others like Tomori and is now going to hamper the development of the next cohort like Colwill and Branthwaite.
I completely agree.Granted he has played well in the big tournaments and is particularly valuable at that level where it's more of a set-piece game. However, international managers often run into trouble when they persist with their declining stars from previous tournaments. We can see some of the signs with Maguire making mistakes that lead to goalscoring opportunities fairly frequently now for England. I don't think Southgate has done the succession planning well at all there given the number of low-risk games he has inbetween tournaments to bleed in the next generation. And it's pretty much too late now.
To be honest when I saw England's line-up it was clear they would struggle against Brazil. Same old broken midfield that gets found out against the big teams. And no vision to come up with fresh solutions to resolve this persistent issue. He has no ability to mirror the successful tactical principles that most of these players relish for their clubs.
Seriously what's with such absolute takes , let's Ignore Southgate competence or lack of it for a moment so you really believe England are so much better than other teams participating in Euro's that any thing less than a win would be failure and a disaster .If you can’t get a tune out of this star-studded England team, you really should be managing in the Championship. Anything less than a Euro victory would be an abject failure for Southgate.
Injured isn't he? Best option but I don't think Southgate thinks he can rely on him.Anybody knows why Luke Shaw is around the team? Has he been called?
Yeah, that's why it's was a bit odd seeing him next to Kane in the stands wearing England clothes. I also saw a video of him meeting Andreas after the game.Injured isn't he? Best option but I don't think Southgate thinks he can rely on him.
In what universe did that happen?After the 2-0 victory over Germany, England fans were hailing Southgate as this tactical mastermind. Emotions are part of football. But people should try to keep things into perspective especially if they want to literally broadcast their opinions. Southgate never had the proper induction to be a top, top coach.
One of the multiverses where England fans aren't entitled?In what universe did that happen?
Hmmm... I'm gonna need exact coordinates to the phantom zone in which Southgate was hailed a tactical mastermind. Even typing that out has given me a giggle.One of the multiverses where England fans aren't entitled?
Please Google the result.In what universe did that happen?
Would rather you back the claim.Please Google the result.
Well I am a fan of live football more than an armchair statistician, and a frequenter of twitter least. But I distinctly remember the doom mongering over the 'defensive' selection turning to shocked glee after the match. Even media not called the Sun were hailing Southgate as a world class coach.Would rather you back the claim.
Methinks you've thrown that in to give your post more gravitas, but have overshot with the embellishment. Tactical genius!
I want to see which cabal did so call the grey man a tactical genius. What were their aims? demands?
While I agree he doesn't have the ability, and even if he did, he wouldn't have the time, to get England to play like the best PL teams, I would say that even if he had the time and ability, he still shouldn't try. Liverpool play in a way that's really only possible for them, while City and Arsenal have Rodri, Jorginho and Odegaard. England don't have anybody like those 3. Most of England's best players - really, everyone but Foden - is at their best in fast paced, transition heavy football. There's pretty much no CBs that are good in a high line(are there? Am I missing anyone?), no midfielder that's really good at moving the ball forward, controlling the tempo and organizing the attack. Their best bets are, what, Branthwaithe and Mainoo, or Alexander-Arnold in midfield? Two teenagers and a guy who barely has any experience in midfield?To be honest when I saw England's line-up it was clear they would struggle against Brazil. Same old broken midfield that gets found out against the big teams. And no vision to come up with fresh solutions to resolve this persistent issue. He has no ability to mirror the successful tactical principles that most of these players relish for their clubs.
You haven’t travelled around these shores much have you?In fairness, Britain is England.
Lots of people think of Scotland, Wales and N Ireland as regions of England.
Poor. Try harder.In fairness, Britain is England.
Lots of people think of Scotland, Wales and N Ireland as regions of England.
Unfortunately that's the majority of peopleYeah, people with no knowledge.
The One (no pun intended) where Jet Li killed LawlessHmmm... I'm gonna need exact coordinates to the phantom zone in which Southgate was hailed a tactical mastermind. Even typing that out has given me a giggle.
Team get together, he's currently injured but unless he's still injured he's going to the EURO'sYeah, that's why it's was a bit odd seeing him next to Kane in the stands wearing England clothes. I also saw a video of him meeting Andreas after the game.
Need a chef's kiss emojiThe One (no pun intended) where Jet Li killed Lawless
Underrated movie
I agree. Henderson has no place in that England squad.Any team would fear him being their coach. No balls or any kind of forward thinking. Not that I want Harvey Elliott on the squad but to exclude him in favor of a player who hasn’t done anything is just ludicrous
I agree Henderson should be out too. But Henderson was one of the best players on England somehow. Anyway I hope Southgate isn’t picking players to gain favor with certain clubs as a future reference.I agree. Henderson has no place in that England squad.