So tell me what was wrong there. Did you not make excuse for Ole's league position saying it was because of lack of crowd.
I think what Ole acheived in year 2 was impressive, but there has to be context with empty stadiums attached to that, because there was a narrative of choking around his squad. Entering cups, reaching the semis or the finals and losing them. I think he generally was a terrible manager for instilling winning mentality and let standards slip massively in training. That very good year 2 was sandwiched between a poor debut season and a terrible final season, despite having half a season's head start before.
We came back from behind to salvage a lot of games in the standout year, and it was never sustainable. We also overperformed the XG metrics in a bunch of those games, but weirdly people don't want to revisit the underlying stats there near as much.
If you are arguing PPG, isn't better metric league position?
No standalone metric is good enough - generally comparing across seasons is dicey because injuries, other team situations and other external factors can affect it. That's why I wasn't the one who started the point. But for me its clear Ole is worse than Ten Hag because of all the things I've mentioned.
Again talking about sensible views, isn't a sensible view to say Ole did better than EtH which is measure using lot of metrics, like possession, better xGD, better goal difference, better league position, more goals, less conceded. How can you ignore everything and then accuse others of not holding a sensible view.
All you are doing is being a caveman view, PPG, league cup, 20 shots conceded per game doesn't matter.
Ten Hag last season was very good. Ten Hag this season is terrible. Ole's final season was terrible. But Ole's final season did not have the concentrated injuries that our manager has. I think we'd be much, much worse if he was dealt with the same defensive problems.
Ole's last season was hands on hips football and players outright not bothering, that for me was more damning and embarrassing to watch than seeing our players fail to execute an ambitious system but still giving 100% for the most part.