How sadAbramovich could have made his money saving kittens from burning buildings and it wouldn't change anything.
How sadAbramovich could have made his money saving kittens from burning buildings and it wouldn't change anything.
From a financial perspective it absolutely is. The money they’ve pumped into a club that was struggling hugely financially prior to their investment in contrast to every other club in the league is definitely comparable. The fact that the money comes from two very likeable actors makes it much less sinister though.It's absolutely nothing like those 2 clubs and unless they've broken rules, it's particularly nothing like City.
I wonder if it hurts Neville to see them come into their league and go up instantly while they've been scrapping in there for a while now.
Would be good to have them on the overlap.
What is earned success?
You can pick apart any clubs rise, they will at some part have benefitted from some advantage. The most extreme examples like Luton are few and far between, to get anywhere in football you need some fortune at some point.
Signing Mullen for the National League was like signing Haaland for the Championship, as close to cheating as you can get.
It’s basically City or PSG situation on a smaller scale but with likeable actors instead of corrupt oil states so there’s just a certain fairytale element to it I guess.
League 1 is surely a whole other kettle of fish though. Mullen and most of their best players had already done it in league 2 but not league 1.
It's fine if it's done within the confines of applicable rules and if the source of funds is not State backed or from illegal activities. Self evident but probably hard for partisans of whataboutery to reckon with.Oh I'm just being glib, that's why I put the word in quotes.
I agree with you. The issue is deciding that some advantages are ok and some are not ok. Is external bankrolling good or bad?
Salford isn't a mining town, it was a textiles town just like Manchester. And it had a famous gas works.Maybe he could have tried to get on the documentary bandwagon before Wrexham did, then reap the bigger sponsorships when Salford were riding the wave of publicity. That he didn't might hurt, and it's too late now as it's already been done.
It literally wouldn't have been as Hollywood though, the only way to do it would have to get Beckham really on board but even then I'm not sure it would have all had the same pulling power. Doubt it would have got the American interest the way Wrexham have.
Salford being being a naturally smaller club is another big difference. They'd never get those attendances even if the stadium was big enough. There's a bit less romance/mystique with Salford too if you were trying sell their story, the hard-working mining town whose club has fallen on difficult times versus the never-were-anythings, albeit from a very working class background as well.
Salford isn't a mining town, it was a textiles town just like Manchester. And it had a famous gas works.
What is earned success?
You can pick apart any clubs rise, they will at some part have benefitted from some advantage. The most extreme examples like Luton are few and far between, to get anywhere in football you need some fortune at some point.
The queen has just died and he's singing that?https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_...s-mcclean-defends-singing-anti-monarchy-chant
My new favorite footballer
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c4n1wegp847o
Wrexham owners aim for up to 55,000-capacity Racecourse
This seems too high for a club that may not get to the Premier League.
How often would they sell out?
It would put them level with the cheatyhad and more than St James' Park, Villa Park and Stamford Bridge.
It's absolutely nothing like those 2 clubs and unless they've broken rules, it's particularly nothing like City.
This seems too high for a club that may not get to the Premier League.
How often would they sell out?
Eh, they are both just spending a lot more money than most of their rivals. They are both using their owners advantages to let them spend more than their rivals by means of questionable fairness (sponsorships which are possible due to their ownership etc...).
Different rules in different leagues but the same basic principle.
I wonder if it hurts Neville to see them come into their league and go up instantly while they've been scrapping in there for a while now.
Would be good to have them on the overlap.
Depends on how they are going to do it. If the expansion can be done in stages, nothing wrong with that. Build a stand with further expansion in mind would be a good move.https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c4n1wegp847o
Wrexham owners aim for up to 55,000-capacity Racecourse
This seems too high for a club that may not get to the Premier League.
How often would they sell out?
It would put them level with the cheatyhad and more than St James' Park, Villa Park and Stamford Bridge.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c4n1wegp847o
Wrexham owners aim for up to 55,000-capacity Racecourse
This seems too high for a club that may not get to the Premier League.
How often would they sell out?
It would put them level with the cheatyhad and more than St James' Park, Villa Park and Stamford Bridge.
Lazy BBC writers again.https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c4n1wegp847o
Wrexham owners aim for up to 55,000-capacity Racecourse
This seems too high for a club that may not get to the Premier League.
How often would they sell out?
It would put them level with the cheatyhad and more than St James' Park, Villa Park and Stamford Bridge.
It’s BBC doing 2+2=105.It's a daft pipe dream.
This idea that they're somehow going to be the club of North Wales is bizarre, and a lot of the goodwill they had when they escaped the National League has already fallen away.
If you're travelling to Wrexham from Bangor, Llandudno, Holyhead, Caernarfon, wherever, you may as well drive a few extra miles to Manchester or Liverpool, which is what the majority of match-going football fans in the area already do. These fans aren't going to switch allegiances because of Ryan Reynolds and a Disney + show.
Fans of League Two (and now League One) clubs seem to have grown quite disdainful of them and their rise. Some of it is probably through jealousy, but it must be quite galling to support a team that's languished at that level for a while, then a club comes from the division below, vastly outspends everyone around them, then celebrates their promotion like some sort of fairytale miracle.
The last census had the urban population at around 45,000, and the borough at about 130,000. They're never filling a stadium that large, even with PL football.
Where’d you get that from?They should probably focus on owning their own training ground first and foremost (they currently rent at Colliers Park) they have been trying to strong arm their way in permanently and trying to oust the university who co owns it with the FAW. All a bit grubby.
It’s BBC doing 2+2=105.
Two of my mates supported Everton and United respectively. Both got fed up with the lack of attachment they felt to their clubs and the PL in general a few years ago.. cost came into it I’m sure.
Both started going to Wrexham 5-6 years ago and are loving it.. feel joined up again. Yes, I’m sure the recent success helps but so what? It did for a lot of United fans too at various points.
Owners don’t really want that size of stadium but 20k is doable. They also host concerts and there’s some potential there too.
Surely they're in real trouble if the documentary stops getting extended? And I gather it's only getting extended one season at a time which seems to put it in a precarious position?
They posted a loss last year in the National league of £5m and more this season. Also Ryan Reynolds has only 'loaned' the club money, currently £9m and he's charging 3.5% interest above bank of England rates on this. It could all get a bit messy if he gets bored and calls the debt in.they've done a hell of a job with that club building it up without taking on too much debt
now with this second promotion, they'll have a much bigger influx of cash
if they can manage to stay league one next year and then invest in the squad for a promotion push, they'll have done really well.
What TV show doesn't get extended one season at a time? Very few get an order for several seasons.
I don't think they'll be in trouble without it, though it may halt their growth. Eventually, though, the show will be over and the football will continue.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c4n1wegp847o
Wrexham owners aim for up to 55,000-capacity Racecourse
This seems too high for a club that may not get to the Premier League.
How often would they sell out?
It would put them level with the cheatyhad and more than St James' Park, Villa Park and Stamford Bridge.
Wonder what championship level players they’re gonna prize away this summer as replacements.Some of the their key players in the promotions have been released.
Aaron Hayden, Rob Lainton, Ben Tozer, Jordan Tunnicliffe and Luke Young all released at the end of their contracts.
Wonder what championship level players they’re gonna prize away this summer as replacements.
Lindelöf, Antony, Casemiro, RashfordWonder what championship level players they’re gonna prize away this summer as replacements.
Oh I could definitely see some loans actually. Hadn’t considered that! Maybe we could offload a couple of promising players onto them for their development?I'm 100% sure they will grab a few of those. Easier to get PL players on loan too in League One.
If Parkinson came to us wanting a loan I'd hope we tell him to get stuffed after his comments towards Bishop in the pre-season game.Oh I could definitely see some loans actually. Hadn’t considered that! Maybe we could offload a couple of promising players onto them for their development?
I hope they do. They are doing what most of us dream of. Buying a club and watching it get better and bigger every year. It’s almost if not better than having the money to buy a big established club. Watch people moan when players want to come to them from the Championship.Wonder what championship level players they’re gonna prize away this summer as replacements.
About 70 games between them this season, hardly key players that (this season anyway).Some of the their key players in the promotions have been released.
Aaron Hayden, Rob Lainton, Ben Tozer, Jordan Tunnicliffe and Luke Young all released at the end of their contracts.