Depending on how much money will available, I think a move for someone like Adam Wharton from Palace would be a step in the right direction. He also wouldn't come cheap.
Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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If we had an attacker like Salah or Diaz then teams would back off us for fear of being caught one on one with them. This would alleviate a lot of pressure on our midfield. Top of our list this summer has to be a young highly rated forward player.
I think the best way forward to improve the team is to focus on three priority signings with two further signings on the cheap. Personally I'd prioritise a CB, midfielder and a winger like Quenda and bring in a GK and a additional forward on the cheap for the short-term.
Simple points but they say it all. United should have won but under the circumstances I`m relieved we had a 1-1 draw. I also think some are underestimating how much the experience of going through all this will help the young players in the longer run - you`ve got to go through it to get to it.
We need somebody like Steve McLaren around to help Mainoo and others develop the positive, winning mentality they need.
I'd be fine if he morphs into Nuno for a little bit while we get our signings going. But the worrying thing is we don't even have good counter attacking players anymore. Zirkzee - Garnacho - Eriksen - Bruno is so much weaker than Rashford - Martial - Greenwood - Bruno.
We already have one, he is injured.
fecking Hojlund with his dick in his hands on that one
Credit where credit is due, coming up against the 2nd best team in England that just scored 7 in the champions league he sent the team out in the right way to not get embarrassed and could have won the game. Wasn't a resounding success because they still conceded but defending was good for the most part.
It's good he's not an zealot like Ange. The rest of the season should just be about playing with that back 5 and not conceding, that would be a good foundation to bring into next season with hopefully some goal scorers added in the summer.
It's good he's not an zealot like Ange. The rest of the season should just be about playing with that back 5 and not conceding, that would be a good foundation to bring into next season with hopefully some goal scorers added in the summer.
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Under Mourinho as well. Except for LvG (don't remember anymore how it was under Moyes) we've been a counter attacking team mostly in bigger games. Haven't had players and quality (or manager) to dominate and control games for a long time. Ten Hag gave up on his football after 2 games and went for similar in 22/23.
On today: credit to Amorim for making those 2 changes right as Arsenal scored. Players didn't go into panic mode but actually took initiative and were proactive after conceding and we could've won it. We've been definitely good enough against 3 rivals in City, Liverpool and Arsenal (another game vs City coming in April) so don't have many complaints about that. However, against all the teams that are above us and aren't those 3 clubs we've been struggling a lot.
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I know the results are still not there but it feels like we’ve been much easier on the eye the last few weeks. It’s not perfect by any means and goalkeeper mistakes and poor finishing doesn’t help but it’s not as turgid as it was.
Small improvements at least. Please can Garnacho to Hojlund find a goal. It’s killing me watching those two.
Small improvements at least. Please can Garnacho to Hojlund find a goal. It’s killing me watching those two.
This is going to be a much quieter thread until Thursday now that all the usual suspects can’t moan as usual 
My impression as well. Didn't watch the Everton game but all the others since Spurs (including that one) found positives given our current injuries situation. Doesn't have to mean much but we'll see.
No it was not a tactical masterstroke, I don't think I claimed it was.
However, you did mention that low block and counter is the best we look - I partially agree. However, I do not think that is necessarily how Amorin wants us to be set up, but that is how we have been playing for quite some time - probably due to the calibre of players we have at the club.
If playing out from the back is the metric you utilize for progress, then fair play. But do keep in mind we had Lindelöf and De Ligt as part of the back 3, along with a 19 year old Yoro who was replaced by an 18 year old Premier League debutant. If you couple that with the starting midfield today and the shaky keeper at the back, that is not necessarily the best crop to have such an expectation regarding playing out the back.
As bad as it was perceived, we definitely dropped 2 points.
Onana, our ball playing Gk, made 29 long balls with only 4 being a success. So that equals to 25 times ball turnover just by our Gk who wasn't part of creative passers. Just imagine that, 25 times turnover caused by United goalkeeper.
I don't think his 25 turnovers was part of Amorim's strategy. And this turnovers has feck all to do with midfielders and CBs. More than often, our 3 CBs did offer him options to pass. He just fancied to twat the ball up front.
I don't think his 25 turnovers was part of Amorim's strategy. And this turnovers has feck all to do with midfielders and CBs. More than often, our 3 CBs did offer him options to pass. He just fancied to twat the ball up front.
I think they just watch cartoons and eat pizza.
I don't mind us playing low block for now. At least, not after he spend 200+m on players.
That was good, more of this please.
Definitely credit to Rice , but if you watch the replay closely don't think Hoijlund is looking to shoot even as he gets tackled. Pretty sure he's taking another gd touch. Definitely low on confidence at the moment.
Give Amorim a proper striker and I am sure we will see marked improvement to the results.
Amad and a number of other players being out injured has start stopped the progress of the team. I am actually happy that whoever comes in, seems to know their job somewhat.
Amad and a number of other players being out injured has start stopped the progress of the team. I am actually happy that whoever comes in, seems to know their job somewhat.
People can’t stand being quiet. There will be ten pages full of whining, arguing, debating which have filled 800 pages again and again. Ok. In three days, let’s see what will happen.This is going to be a much quieter thread until Thursday now that all the usual suspects can’t moan as usual
Agreed. All true about the squad and manager.
This is going to be a much quieter thread until Thursday now that all the usual suspects can’t moan as usual
If we had lost, this thread would have been on page 850 already.
Some very noticeable posters missing, I can name 2-3 who would have been on their 20th post.
Gotta admit, I will miss reading about Benitez and Zidane the next three days.
Would agree with this. They only had confidence because we scored a goal against the run of play. That's the same like against Everton. We only got into the game after Bruno's late goal then.
They clearly have no trust in themselves unless we somehow manage a lead. Otherwise, they're hopeless and have no faith in themselves and the coach.
Slowly making improvements and spotting players being better in certain positions such as Yoro on the left and Garnacho on the right. We obviously need more quality as we’re to predictable at the minute. Everything goes down Garnachos side whether he’s on the left or right.
Decent result that keeps the heat off for the time being. It was nothing new to see us doing reasonably well in a low block. It is no surprise that de Ligt, Casemiro, Bruno, Maz, Eriksen, our entire defense, Garnacho on the counter - all look solid when they had to sit back and be compact. Our issue is that we cannot break out of this cycle. Amo isn't very happy playing in the low-block either and it was very evident from his post match comments. The challenge remains to perform well when we try to play with authority. Every manager from Ole to him (so far) has failed when they have tried to play on the front foot.
Our last 10 games are realatively tough. 6 against teams in the top 10 and one of the remaining four vs Brentford, against whom we have struggled off late. It would be interesting to see what approach he adopts in those games.
Whatever he does in those games, I hope he is ready to deploy a low to mid block in the Europa games. Winning that competition will make our and his life (if he survives) much much easier for the next season. He'd need money and recruits if he wants to play his style of football. CL and the additional sponsorship money would be a blessing in that regard.
Our last 10 games are realatively tough. 6 against teams in the top 10 and one of the remaining four vs Brentford, against whom we have struggled off late. It would be interesting to see what approach he adopts in those games.
Whatever he does in those games, I hope he is ready to deploy a low to mid block in the Europa games. Winning that competition will make our and his life (if he survives) much much easier for the next season. He'd need money and recruits if he wants to play his style of football. CL and the additional sponsorship money would be a blessing in that regard.
Had to slip that little dig in eh? There's nothing that shows the players have no faith in the coach, if anything quite the opposite. Quite apparent that they are trying their hardest to carry out his instructions but either aren't good enough or fall into bad old habits (dwelling on the ball, checking back, shooting when they should pass).
What does that even mean? GK going long or not is absolutely part of the strategy. In this match against a technically and tactically better Arsenal, I agree with Amorim that it's better to punt it upfield than have the CBs lose it by passing among themselves and inviting pressure. Also, not that Onana's kicking was particularly good, but retaining possession after long balls absolutely hinges on the FWs winning duels and MFs winning second balls, which they aren't.
I think these games are always false dawns because we are a counter attacking team so playing a team that wants to play in our half benefits us. Our issues almost always come from teams who sit back and play a low block, we don’t have the physicality or the ability to break a team down and defend counter attacks.
Stop acting clever mate.
Amorim has not won 2 league games on the bounce since he came.
He has managed 17 league games since he came in. He has accumulated 19 points.
We are on half a season games for him, he has sub 20 points by half a season of games.
That means he draws every game or losses every other game or wins 1 and losses the next 2.
How Hojlund and Onana can't win 2 games on the bounce then what can Amorim with 'other inferior' players.
Yesterday was the first time since December 1st we have had FIRST HALF lead in PL.
If this squad cant have a first half lead in PL in 3 fcking months, then we are dead.
We will be here when Amorim will leave us, he has found us as United fans, and when he will leave us here, thats when people will open their eyes. Same as i complained about ETH since January 2023.
We will spend alot of money, time, opportunity cost to just get back to where we were with other coaches.
Which is the right thing to do?
This is very fair. To give Amorim some credit, we look fairly solid in a low block setup, and by now it's no coincidence that we look better vs big teams. Unfortunately, the league isn't filled with big teams, so we're only halfway there
Back again to, when we play well against big games is Amorim credit but when we play poorly against other teams is players are relegation standard.
The irony continues.
We've got 9 CBs. Why would you prioritise a CB when we are clearly shorter in the other areas?
I'd love to know the gymnastics you've used to find NINE centrebacks in that squad!
I'd count 7 at best, of whom two are leaving in a couple of months and one who has done his cruciate. Even if you assume that Heaven is good enough to start regularly (and I don't think you can know either way), you have four. No manager should start a season with four centre backs for three positions. A single injury would leave you absolutely screwed.
Eh you're likely running in open doors, I'm not exactly the forums biggest Amorim supporter. Still think it doesn't hurt to give some credit. We're largely extremely poor, so I like to focus on small segments where we look capable, and that's playing big teams so far.
You also won't find me talking down our squad anywhere
I'd love to know the origin of this phrase, it's not one I've heard before.
Lindelof and Evans are leaving, Martinez is out until Christmas at best, Shaw is always injured.
That leaves for 3 CB positions De Ligt, Maguire, Maz, Yoro and Heaven thats only 5 players for 3 positions in the 1st team and if we want to play a high line Maguire is not suitable therefore you then only have 4 players
Maybe it's just German? Assumed it'd make sense in English as well
This man has a plan unlike many of his predecessors.
The management isn’t stupid, if this time next season he’s still struggling, he’s a goner but in the same vein, they will surely back him in the summer with a few key signings and give him the best chance possible because Amorim definitely is the profile of coach we need to take United forward.
The management isn’t stupid, if this time next season he’s still struggling, he’s a goner but in the same vein, they will surely back him in the summer with a few key signings and give him the best chance possible because Amorim definitely is the profile of coach we need to take United forward.
We could have had 99 and we'd still need one central CB with good physical attributes, ability on the ball & pace to cover large spaces. Unless we get that player we won't be able to play a highline and make the pitch compact higher compared to in a low block.
A CB of that ilk, an agile CM with passing ability, a #10 and a striker are top most priorities in the summer. We'll struggle again if don't get those four signings right.