Hes absolutely terrible. Just an awful player - I really hope chelsea dont back out because nobody else is spending 25 million on him
Jadon Sancho - Chelsea (loan) watch | £5M opt-out fee
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Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) discuss United's fantastic win away against Athletic Club in the semi-final of the Europa League.
They also pick out the positives of United's 4-3 loss away at Brentford, and Nik reviews a day out at Old Trafford watching Manchester United Women qualify for the Champions League.
There is no zip or drive or angry running to him. It's just jog a bit with the ball, shimmy and feint to the inside and then he either loses it or lays it off harmlessly. All fart and no shit.
Imagine a front three of Grealish Zirkzee and Sancho
Cut inside lose it, cut inside lose it.
We don't really though? Madueke is just coming back from injury, Mudryk is banned, and Tyrique George is still effectively a youth player.
At the end of the day he started another big game for them. And they’ve got about a 100 other players in their squad they could have picked ahead of him. I don’t rate him myself but I’m not seeing much evidence that he isn’t rated at Chelsea.
Maresca should be safe if Chelsea qualify for CL. But it won't be easy with Newcastle, Villa and possibly few other clubs in the race.
On Sancho: he's playing the way he did for United it feels. Shame about that chance towards the end of half, really good save from Vicario.
Or it doesn't say a whole lot about the other players.
Not trying to be anti-Sancho but the guys a muppet.
Another 70-minute blank. feck me, he's coming back.
Surprisingly daft and reductive from you.
He's just so lacking physically and mentally at this level of football. I still believe Antony's work rate makes him a slightly better player.
I can only see us endlessly sending him out on loan until his contract runs out.
I can only see us endlessly sending him out on loan until his contract runs out.
On a bright side his contract expires in 2026, so would mean one loan left before he's gone (unfortunately on free). That or selling him for 15m or something this summer. But let's see what Chelsea decide first.
Do we have to?
He's playing like an 80k a week player, tops. You guys think he'd accept that?
He has another year on the Manchester United gravy train, and will be lucky to get even 80k anywhere once his contract with us is over.
But he's gonna make 200k a week with you. Even if he finds a club at 60k a week afterwards, he'd make more money that way
He's got a good first touch
That first word makes this the nicest thing you’ve ever said about me.
1st shot on target in the league in over 3 months, he's rounding into form. There's just no threat with him at all.
He does seem to be starting every week.
That’s a positive depending on how you look at things.
That’s a positive depending on how you look at things.
Not sure I’ve seen a more pusillanimous player in the adult game. He has no appetite for football.
I learned a new word today.
And yes I agree - surprised he even made it as a pro in the first place.
Rumours of attitude problems have followed him his whole career. We're still a badly run club but I don't think we'd sign him today, we were just hopelessly naïve and inept back when we did.
I thought it was 2028 for some reason, fair enough I guess we won't be seeing much more of him thankfully. Free transfer to Dortmund in 2026 would be my prediction, what a blinder they pulled.
We could have a front 3 of Sancho Zirkzee and Garnacho at some stage next season
What’s his stats like 25-30 appearances 2 goals?
Is that any worse than a front 3 of Garnacho, Hojlund and Zirkzee?
A false three!
I feel like I've roughly spent ten years watching this kind of performance from varying wingers and forwards at the club. So, so, so sick of it.
But isn't some part of it down to evolvement of tactics in general? Teams get better tactically and physically and therefore less open and more compact, making it harder to break them down and isolate wingers in a 1-on-1 situation against a fullback. Only teams who are very astute tactically or rely heavy on a counterattacking approach has a way around it.
It’s probably better.
It's because we keep signing players who don't fit the league. Amorim hit the nail of the head with his discussion on physicality, in most other leagues you can play the bottom half and have acres of space to operate but it's not so in the PL. If you can't beat your man you're in trouble.
If you go back and watch his goals and assists from his best Dortmund season it's obvious he isn't the type of winger we required. Ironically if he was the same player he was then he'd be a great option for one of Amorim's 10 positions. Not that I want him back now.
Not often but sometimes Dortmund played exactly Amorim's current system with Sancho in that role. So that's the only tactical role during Sancho's United career that he really fulfillfed before in Dortmund.
I was at Stamford Bridge yesterday. Sancho had so many chances, the ball in so many good places. He just insists on running into defenders. Even when he gets past one or two he has no decision making capability to speak of. Just awful. Don't want him back. Maresca should have subbed him off at half time
Yeah. Could've left better impression if he scored but good save from Vicario.
Possibly if they qualify for CL, Chelsea will be willing to keep him as it's not that big a fee and they'd be ready to pay his wages (he'd have to accept bit lower than at United). That's what I'm hoping for. He's still an okay as squad option, though failing to at least score in Conference League doesn't look good for him.
You should never even throw out the possibility that it was mental illness, because there is no evidence that it was the case. This is exactly the point I was making by suggesting it could be punishment for bad behavior, again, something just invented out of whole cloth because no one knows the truth. But implying mental illness suggests sancho is in the right, suggesting punishment suggests he was in the wrong, you only seem to have an issue with hypothetical when it doesn't suit your desired outcome.No I didn't, you'd need to read that post again mate. I didn't invent the idea Sanco went to Holland for mental health issues nor did I claim that was definitely the reason. I actually offered up several possibilities, much like yourself.
Yeah my last post really came across as protecting Sancho.
You are right there his English isn't great. Maybe he should have spent more of the 2+ years he lived in England working to improve it.
That team is heading straight to relegation. They ain't scoring more than 20 goals all season and I'm being generous in my assessment.
It was widely reported and Ten Hag misinterpreted or not said he went there for mental issues. So yeah I'm ok putting that up as a possibility as to why he was sent there.
I don't see how that makes Sancho 'right' and to be honest I couldn't give a monkeys why he was sent there either way. I don't know or more importantly don't care if Sancho was in the right or the wrong.
Go on then, tell me what my desired outcome is then Professor X?
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Watched the second half of Brentford-Chelsea.
Genuinely didn't realise Sancho was still on the pitch until he was fouled on the 83rd minute. Thought he'd gone off with Madueke on the hour mark.
Completely non-existent when Chelsea needed a spark in the second half.
Genuinely didn't realise Sancho was still on the pitch until he was fouled on the 83rd minute. Thought he'd gone off with Madueke on the hour mark.
Completely non-existent when Chelsea needed a spark in the second half.
Yeah, that would be something. And am saying that as someone who thinks Zirkzee can be good in certain setups and with certain wingers.
But that trio would be an absolute killer to any hope for goals.
Part of that is surely the way Maresca wants to play though. He is so boring and turgid and encourages his players not to take risks with the ball. Even Palmer looks handcuffed with him.