Hojlund has been terrible all season, including when ETH was here. So it was under ETH that this drop in performances started, and I'd actually be tempted to say that it's been this last month or so that has been Hojlund's best performances of the season (which shows just how low that bar is).
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 52
- Goals
- 10
- Assists
- 2
- Yellow cards
- 2
It will never end that excuse for some because they either don't understand the position or don't want to acknowledge what they're seeing. He is poor and going into this season with him as our number 1 striker again wrote off our season along with keeping Ten Hag in place. It's akin to making Kleberson and Djemba Djemba our starting mids and not addressing that in the summer. A good striker creates service through their movement, anticipation and positioning, there's a reason they cost the most and it's not because they just need to tap in the fantastic service that everyone else provides for them.
I pray that we do not start him in the semi final games because it is like playing with 10 men. Even if he has a good game now, it is an anomaly and he is easily one of our worst ever signings and definitely the worst striker to have such a big role and play so many minutes.
The thing is, he's low on confidence because he's a bad player putting in bad performances.
He's not unlucky hitting the post or up against a keeper playing a blinder.
He's not scoring because he's incapable of good movement off the ball.
He's not unlucky hitting the post or up against a keeper playing a blinder.
He's not scoring because he's incapable of good movement off the ball.
I think people forget just how bad Ronaldo was in his last season here. Worse than Wout that season, worse than Rashford when he played striker that season, worse than Hojlund last season, and worse than Zirkzee this season. Admittedly better than Hojlund this season, but it's almost impossible not to be. As such it was quite easy to replace the player that he had become.
Ronaldo in 22/23 was a very different player than he was in 21/22 and looked completely finished at the top level (which was also starting to show when playing for Portugal). There'd already been signs of it in 21/22 as well when he had a month or two in the middle of the season where he was terrible but managed to get back into form at the end, but by 22/23 his deterioration had gone way too far.
It is the wrong move to sell him now. Buy high sell low? It's not the right tactic. Best thing we can do is loan him and get his wages covered. Either that or at least get a couple more strikers in so he isn't playing every game. Selling him now is very foolish, we will lose a lot of money.
Yeah.. I did too. Almost like Peter Kenyan joining Chelsea after the Ronaldinho deal failed
Can anyone recall a time he's received the ball and hasn't been simultaneously in the process of falling over?
But conversion rate is a useless stat to be fair. It just shows over all the minutes he played he barely took a shot.
It is probably the only metric that makes him look good. A defender could have a good conversion rate.
Exactly. His conversion is inflated as he doesn't take shots. Most strikers demand the ball around the box and fire shots off, Rasmus avoids taking shots
He needs taking out of the firing line but we got no one to be able to do that.
That chance where he was too late just sums him up, I do think there’s a player in there but we haven’t got time to find him.
That chance where he was too late just sums him up, I do think there’s a player in there but we haven’t got time to find him.
Rasmus doest have the basics to be a top striker. His first touch is awful, he cannot hold the ball up. His positioning is shocking. His heading is useless. His composure is poor.
He has to be replaced.
He has to be replaced.
McTominay would play so much better in Hojlund's position, and we don't even want McTominay. Hojlund just isn't a EPl player. Maybe championship at best.
Anyone think he’d benefit from a loan or 2? Amad benefitted and came back a lot stronger. Gyokeres became a monster after being at different clubs. It made him stronger and better mentally. I don’t think 1 big club as a 21 year old leading the line. It’s probably the most position where you need an experienced head there.
Has to be sold, clearly nowhere near good enough.
Feel for the lad, but it proves yet again recruitment needs to be better if United are ever to get out of this mess.
As soon as Atalanta started hiking the price United should of backed away.
As an understudy to a starting CF he might have had a chance, but as the main man playing in front of the current midfield crop…he was destined to fail from the beginning.
As soon as Atalanta started hiking the price United should of backed away.
As an understudy to a starting CF he might have had a chance, but as the main man playing in front of the current midfield crop…he was destined to fail from the beginning.
Loan, sell, put him in U18. Don't really care. Don't want him to play first team. He has enough chances already and he hasn't grabbed them. We can't make an entire club suffer just because we feel bad for him.
He doesn't hold up the ball well either. Always falling on his feet or barging into players and fouling them. I know he did slightly better in the last couple of games for his linking play. But average isn't what we are looking for.
No loans. Sell and move on. Simple
I think part of the reason you don't see it much under Amorim is because that's just not the way we play.
His goal against Leicester showcased it. I understand that Leicester are a bit shite but he did really well to get in behind the defence and took the chance brilliantly.
He is simply not good enough. Or do you think he'd score 15 goals if he played for a different club? If he can only play well if he can run behind defenders, then it means he is a very limited CF.
We ain’t selling him. Who’s buying him? Let’s be real here. A loan improves the chances of selling him
Serie A had some interest. Will see in the summer anyway, he should definitely not be at the club in the next campaign.
Oh, I entirely agree with you. My post wasn't meant as a criticism of Amorim.
The main people worthy of criticism for the Hojlund debacle are the ones who decided to spend 70 million on him on the basis of what was decent output at best. Even at Atalanta, his goalscoring record in Serie A was 9 goals in the equivalent of around 20 full matches worth of football. It's perfectly respectable for a player of his age but nowhere near enough to make him the first choice striker at a side with such pressure as United, and certainly not for such an astronomical fee.
I can't honestly be mad at Hojlund himself because I honestly just think he's showing his limitations as a player. It's not at all that he isn't trying, he just isn't capable of producing to nearly the level we need him to because he's a very limited player right now. As I say, the fault lies with our recruitment team for making the frankly ridiculous decision to spend such a sum on him. He should be playing for a club where the weight of expectations on him is much lower right now so he could hone some of the skills he's massively lacking in without such a heavy burden on his shoulders.
I feel like there is a lower limit of transfer fee, where we might as well keep him as third option behind a new striker (hopefully) and Zirkzee. Would you take £10m for him just to get rid, for example?
We wouldn't be able to that though. Seen we'd need to sell him for at minimum 40 odd million to break even on psr (figures aren't accurate) and no ones doing that.
Ederson has more goal contributions (G+A) than Hojlund in less appearances. Mental.
Yeah. I think people expecting Højlund to go are in for a rude awakening. It’s also much more important to get someone in ahead of him, rather than selling him. Thankfully it has to be crystal clear to everyone that it is sorely needed.
Thanks for your opinion, I beg to differ, but each to their own.
Was told he didn’t have a decent conversion rate, simply pointing out he did last season and backing it up with the stats.
Mazraoui has played this type of ball a few times in the last game and many more times over the season. It's just that Hojlund can't make much of it against the vast majority of PL defenders. Even that goal he takes too many touches to get the ball under control. If Faes weren't such a shocking defender, he would've gotten close to him and stopped him from getting off his shot.
Is he the worst striker in the league?
Genuinely.
Genuinely.
Mind blowing the amount of money wasted on ETH transfers
Initial response was surely this is hyperbole but going down the league it's tough to argue against. Not watched much Saints and never rated DCL so maybe them two?
Not only that, but he genuinely felt that adding Zirkzee instead of a experienced goalscorer alongside Højlund was going to be enough
I hear you, it scarcely seems believable that our starting striker could be that bad, but when you actually think about it, he's one of the worst in the league.
A fit DCL is probably more of a physical handful than Hojlund.
I agree. And if we can’t sell him then loan him and improve the chances the year after or he may get a breakthrough like Amad did.
I don't know, he has about the same amount of minutes played as Zirkzee and they are both on 3 PL goals so it will be a photo finish. I think we can safely assume it will be a United player.
Thats fair enough but its context which is why I wouldn't call it decent.
I thought the Wolves game was one of the better games he has played for us recently.
Held the ball really wall. He was 1 inch away from scoring a goal with his slide. And he created a nice chance for himself when he did a clever turn and sprinted towards goal.
But not surprised at the barrage of criticism given the lack of goals
Held the ball really wall. He was 1 inch away from scoring a goal with his slide. And he created a nice chance for himself when he did a clever turn and sprinted towards goal.
But not surprised at the barrage of criticism given the lack of goals
not only is he bad at scoring, his pressing/defense is very bad as well
After 27 appearances he only registered 3 tackles and 1 interception. So one defensive action per 7 games
his "pressing" is basically non-existent.
Cristiano Ronaldo, at 36 years old, got 8 tackles + 2 interceptions in 30 games. (1 defensive action in 3 games)
Ibrahomovic, at 35 years old, got 10 tackles + 10 interceptions in 28 games (around 2 in 3 games)
Marcus Rashford, known for his laziness, got 19 tackles + 4 interceptions in 33 games last season. (around 2 in 3 games)
Meanwhile Welbeck got 22 tackles and 5 interceptions with 26 appearances (around 1 per game)
Marmoush got 11 tackles and 5 interceptions after just 11 games (around 1.5 per game)
Isak got 12 tackles + 3 interceptions in 30 games (around 1 in 2 games)
Rooney got 36 tackles + 29 interceptions in 14/15! (more than 2 per game)
After 27 appearances he only registered 3 tackles and 1 interception. So one defensive action per 7 games
his "pressing" is basically non-existent.
Cristiano Ronaldo, at 36 years old, got 8 tackles + 2 interceptions in 30 games. (1 defensive action in 3 games)
Ibrahomovic, at 35 years old, got 10 tackles + 10 interceptions in 28 games (around 2 in 3 games)
Marcus Rashford, known for his laziness, got 19 tackles + 4 interceptions in 33 games last season. (around 2 in 3 games)
Meanwhile Welbeck got 22 tackles and 5 interceptions with 26 appearances (around 1 per game)
Marmoush got 11 tackles and 5 interceptions after just 11 games (around 1.5 per game)
Isak got 12 tackles + 3 interceptions in 30 games (around 1 in 2 games)
Rooney got 36 tackles + 29 interceptions in 14/15! (more than 2 per game)
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