The word gets thrown around a lot, but I think a proper striker and another attacker could be genuinely transformative for this team. Really hoping we can get the requisite quality over the line this summer
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The word gets thrown around a lot, but I think a proper striker and another attacker could be genuinely transformative for this team. Really hoping we can get the requisite quality over the line this summer
This is why I asked in the United transfer thread if rumours regarding Tah or perhaps another attempt at Branthwaite would fill (and/or suit) the role and answer the question of why we'd then still be looking for CBs.
We need another athletic ball playing midfield partner for Ugarte and a proper attacking RWB too. Get those four players and we will be a completely different side.
That's not how it should work but that'll most likely be the case.
Eventually the complainers were right so what does it matter anyway?
They are but not in this system or team. Wrong combination of players to be a PL team. They all have PL talent but the player profiles don't match.
Which ones?
Which ones?
Agreed, no point playing with wingbacks if they are more defensive than offensive or they just aren’t good enough at creating chances.
My understanding of 3521 is that the wing backs should be an equal threat as the 10’s. Ours are no where near that unless he plays Amad there which he should.
I wanna see Garnacho wide left and Amad wide right. If Amorim actually wants to play positive, attacking football I don’t see what the holdup is. We’ve had nothing to play for in the league for how long now ? Would also allow Mainoo to play through the middle since Ruben sees him as a 10.
No issue with that to try it out. No harm in the PL.
What a statement. One very good result in Spain does not make Amorim a success. He’s got a lot to do to win many United fans over and I’m still happy to standby my view he will be sacked about 10 games into next season. The league will be viewed more importantly next season and he just hasn’t got to grips with it at all.
If I have to come back on here next season and say I got him all wrong, I’d be fecking delighted as it means we are doing well, but in all honestly I’ve yet to see anything beyond one or two results that convinces me he is the right man for this team.
You’re absolutely entitled to your opinion.
It’s crazy that we are literally talking about sacking Amorim without at least one summer transfer window, but his results in the PL have been poor. I personally think it’s an INCOMPLETE for right now. If by Xmas we are in 12th, you probably need to sack him. No manager could do well with Hojlund as a striker IMHO.
I mean, he's not. Everyone knows the team is ill suited to his style of football and on top of that, as Ratcliffe said, many players just aren't good enough. Expect a big overhaul and some improvement on 15th next season, then hopefully a top four challenge the next one if everything clicks. I'm praying we start doing better at recruitment because it would be a shame to not get to find out if Amorim can make this work with good players who suit his system.
I find comments like this really really silly.
We have Nunez starting 26 games for the Champions, scoring just 5 goals (Højlund has 29 games and 4 goals).
Are we pretending Liverpool suddenly turn to an utter shitshow if they swap out Nunez for Højlund?
And the second placed team Arsenal… do they even have a striker?
Feels like the same kind of online nonsense that turned Harry Maguire into some league one meme who must have won a lottery ticket to play for United. It’s not fair on the lad.
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My God, you’ve gone all in on another ”manager needs 2 years and a team full of his own players to make top four” haven’t you?
You’re already thinking 9th next season is alright?
@Regulus Arcturus Black go touch grass mate, I can’t imagine how high your blood pressure is.
Will touching grass help?
Smoking it would probably help more
Personally I would like to see Amorim given a proper CF, someone who goes out and scores at least 20 goals across all competitions in a season.
I honestly don't think it's that much to ask for at United, and it's our apex priority this summer.
My intuition tells me when we start finishing chances, we'll shift through the gears.
I honestly don't think it's that much to ask for at United, and it's our apex priority this summer.
My intuition tells me when we start finishing chances, we'll shift through the gears.
I actually find the humour in laughing at quotes such as ”no manager could do well with Højlund” help alot.
Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and United have all failed to find one though right? So it probably is a big ask.
To be fair, your response is basically “a manager can do well with 10 other players” is a bit redundant no?
I don’t want to put words in their mouth but I think it’s pretty obvious that you’re meant to infer that what they mean is “with Højlund as their only striking option”. We don’t have anything like the attackers Liverpool have to compensate for Hojlund like they do for Nunes.
In fact I’ll reword that. We don’t have Salah. He’s responsible for something like 65% of their goals. Take Salah out of Liverpool, put Højlund in for Nunes and I say with absolute certainty that Liverpool aren’t close to Top 4.
No we don’t have Salah, nor do Arsenal mind.
Christ. Liverpool have Mo Salah, one of the greatest premier league forwards ever. What silliness.
Situation hasn't changed, he gets a reprieve if we win the Europa but if we don't we should start talking to other managers. The league campaign has been a catastrophe.
Not much to complain about today, considering the circumstances.
Before I get accused of backpedaling, he still needs to go if he doesn't win the EL
Before I get accused of backpedaling, he still needs to go if he doesn't win the EL
He's very lucky we're still in the EL because 6 wins out of 24 PL games is relegation form.
That's a fair assessment. Although he's not going even if we lose all our remaining games and don't qualify for the CL.
Amorim has made losing a regular occurence. How can we expect him and his coaches to instil a winning mentality after this disaster of a season? His league record is utterly appalling.
Just call a spade a spade, we have been duped by Amorim. A manager who went on about establishing standards getting slaughtered in the league every week.
And Arsenal don’t, nor do they have any decent CF.
The silliness is pretending Højlund makes it impossible to do well.
Exactly.
Playing a duff formation we haven't the players for, and losing a lot of games.
You fear for us if we don't win the Europa with the money at stake.
It'll be the difference between buying a couple of Dorgu's and bringing in a few hopefully gamechangers
We're so far off every team above us is astonishing. People can use the europa to excuse todays result, fair enough, but this has been a run of form that would get almost every manager of any team in the league sacked, let alone man utd.
Nunez is streets ahead of Hojlund. He hassles, he chases, he harries and he impacts games. Sure, he's poor infront of goal, but when you have Salah coming in from the left and Gakpo or Jota from the right, he's providing a platform them.
I'm not going to get on at Hojlund because he's a young lad and he didn't even play today, but his biggest problem isn't his lack of goals, it's his ability to even get on the ball and effect games.
You seem more sure than I am.
Takes from today:
- Amass, Frederickson and Obi are far from ready.
- Shaw is done.
- Garnacho goal and assist, hopefully great boost for him.
- Amad back with a goal!
- Bayndir couple of good saves, shaky throughout.
Brentford's best player - the refereeing team.
Only games that matter are the 2nd leg and hopefully the final.
Don't bottle it we need to fight for every blade of grass this Thursday.
- Amass, Frederickson and Obi are far from ready.
- Shaw is done.
- Garnacho goal and assist, hopefully great boost for him.
- Amad back with a goal!
- Bayndir couple of good saves, shaky throughout.
Brentford's best player - the refereeing team.
Only games that matter are the 2nd leg and hopefully the final.
Don't bottle it we need to fight for every blade of grass this Thursday.
You might well be right of course. But Jim might also get impatient, he's done it before.
It's a game of percentages at the end. He might come good, in my opinion it's more likely he won't though. So I'd prefer a transfer window for someone who (in my opinion) has a higher chance of success than failure
If we weren’t in the EL we probably wouldn't have played a heavily rotated team, and we’d have likely won it today. We still came close away from home against a good team.
As with last season, a decision shouldn't be made on the basis of a single win/lose game. They either think he's the guy to be successful long term, or they don't.