Liam Delap | £30m release clause?

dannyrhinos89 said:
can’t muster even a little bit of excitement about this potential signing. Players like this aren’t going to take us into the top half of the table.
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“Taking us in to the top half of the table” is a bit of a drastic statement. This is the first season we’ve really truly fecked it, and made a European final. We had a change of manager, and a lot of turmoil and injuries to match.

We’ve got a very good chance of finishing top half next season with just a handful of changes, never mind adding in some high quality and hard fighting players.

Delap doesn’t excite me either, but it makes more sense than spending £60m+ on a striker that might not be what we need.
 
foolsgold said:
Yep, and these are the profile of players we need, experienced winners. A Zlatan or Cavani is just what we need. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be one out there
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Yeah the cupboard looks bare for experienced strikers who won't cost the earth this summer
 
Utterly De Ligt'd said:
And Belfast Rashford's isn't? I not sure I have seen many players at United with a worse attitude than Rashford.
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You must be about 5/6 years old then. Forgetting Pogba? Lingard, Martial? I’m not defending Rashford by any means I’m just saying if one of him or sancho stays it’s most likely going to be him.
 
DJ_21 said:
You must be about 5/6 years old then. Forgetting Pogba? Lingard, Martial? I’m not defending Rashford by any means I’m just saying if one of him or sancho stays it’s most likely going to be him.
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:lol: :lol:

recency bias i think its called.
 
Red in STL said:
Not quite as simple, the figures you give for Sancho and Antony represent a loss in PSR terms, that has to be taken in to consideration
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Do they?

Sancho has 1/5 years left of a £70m deal and Antony has 2/5 years left on an £80m deal..

Fraction of a loss at worst - savings to be made on their wages though
 
croadyman said:
Yeah the cupboard looks bare for experienced strikers who won't cost the earth this summer
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Jonathan David and Yoane Wissa. That’s about it really. Aside from that we’d be taking a punt in one way or another. Mateta’s output isn’t good enough. Schick already flopped in Serie A and comes with fitness concerns. And on and on…
 
I'm told Gyokeres is going to Arsenal. I think this is such a bad mistake from us. I guess we wouldn't have been able to tempt him here, but he's going to take them to another level.

Delap isn't guaranteed to get anywhere near this level. Basically we're looking at Charmander (with no guarantee of even the next evolution) while Arsenal get Charizard.
 
Von Mistelroum said:
I'm told Gyokeres is going to Arsenal. I think this is such a bad mistake from us. I guess we wouldn't have been able to tempt him here, but he's going to take them to another level.

Delap isn't guaranteed to get anywhere near this level. Basically we're looking at Charmander (with no guarantee of even the next evolution) while Arsenal get Charizard.
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Or maybe Arsenal are getting a Championship level striker who has padded his stats in a weaker league and turned into fools gold.
 
Utd don’t need a 1 season wonder. We need a striker with a decent tally for at least the last 2-3 seasons.
Gyokeres for me. Do a Chelsea and spread the cost over 6 seasons to comply with FFP.
 
Red Royal said:
A controversial take maybe, but we could have done with Rashford in the 2nd half of the season if he and Amorin could have just buried the hatchet.
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You mean if Rashford just did what his manager told him to do as he should? He didn't want to be here clearly and its fine.

We will move on and replace him in the summer simple as.
 
Leftback99 said:
Hopefully. But let's see when someone has to actually stump up a fee and wages for them.
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He will get the Sancho treatment if not. There is zero chance he is part of next seasons squad

As Sancho did he refused to follow the managers instructions and bailed on the club midway through the season. Zero chance that sort of character will be allowed back into the dressing room whilst the club is attempting to reset culture
 
Fortitude said:
Find this thread so surreal. You'd think this were a young Rooney or Benzema from some of the posts.

Also the "race" to sign him. Like it were a superstar Hazard choosing his big club destination.

Will be an interesting thread to look back on in a year or two. Perhaps this is the next great striker.

Manchester United being in the predicament where there's a chance we have to find out potentially the hard way makes me sad.
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I think the posts making it out he's anything even remotely close to this are very very much in the minority :lol:
 
DON’T PANIC ™ said:
Utd don’t need a 1 season wonder. We need a striker with a decent tally for at least the last 2-3 seasons.
Gyokeres for me. Do a Chelsea and spread the cost over 6 seasons to comply with FFP.
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They changed the rules because of Chelsea. Now you can only spread the cost for a maximum 5 years.
 
Red Royal said:
A controversial take maybe, but we could have done with Rashford in the 2nd half of the season if he and Amorin could have just buried the hatchet.
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Definitely, he would have helped massively. If only he hadn't gone running to the press to tell them he wanted out as soon as a coach challenged him about his application.
 
I've seen him play a handful of times and I think he looks like a decent young forward, no more, no less. He's not gonna be transformative in the way Osimhen or Gyokeres could potentially be, but they seemingly aren't available, and at £30m Delap is a no-brainer, as the remaining options are to get rinsed for £50-60m on Watkins or Mateta.
 
VP89 said:
How so
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Because people love to wallow in pessimism and then be 'right'.

hellhunter said:
Because he's just not that good?

Maybe he's a revelation and bangs them in, but it's not exactly hard to imagine the opposite considering our woes and what he's shown so far
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But he's been decent this season. It's hardly a huge stretch to think he'll improve us fairly significantly.
 
hellhunter said:
Because he's just not that good?

Maybe he's a revelation and bangs them in, but it's not exactly hard to imagine the opposite considering our woes and what he's shown so far
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I get the notion he won't be prolific but how does someone take a 12 goal striker for a relegated side and translate them to an 8 goal striker when there's more quality around him?
 
Red Royal said:
A controversial take maybe, but we could have done with Rashford in the 2nd half of the season if he and Amorin could have just buried the hatchet.
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Ofcourse we could’ve done with a motivated Rashford, but Rashford was the one that had to make that step. Rashford got challenged over his performances and general attitude, something that has been a common theme for a long period of time. You look at what’s been attempted in the past to rectify the situation and you see that it didn’t work so you try to apply a bit more pressure. Rashfords response was to announce his desire for a new challenge away from the club. Amorim tried to play it down by suggesting it was an ill-advised statement made due to negative influence from people around Rashford, opening up for Rashford to backtrack a bit, but Rashford never took that opportunity.

That was what, mid-december, and at the very end of the transfer window a loan deal with Villla, with an option to buy, was announced.

The manager depends on how the player reacts in order to bury the hatchet.
 
VP89 said:
I get the notion he won't be prolific but how does someone take a 12 goal striker for a relegated side and translate them to an 8 goal striker when there's more quality around him?
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1. He won’t be on penalties for us.

2. We aren’t far off the relegation zone ourselves.
 
VP89 said:
I get the notion he won't be prolific but how does someone take a 12 goal striker for a relegated side and translate them to an 8 goal striker when there's more quality around him?
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Like someone said, he won't be taking penalties for us. And he wouldn't be the first striker to crumble under the pressure of leading our line. We all hope he'll improve his tally if we sign him, but I don't think it's a certainty at all
 
EtH said:
1. He won’t be on penalties for us.

2. We aren’t far off the relegation zone ourselves.
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1. He's only scored 2 penalties.
2. The quality point stands and unless you think we're going to be a relegation side next season the point is redundant.
 
I think we aren't going to attract the big names for a while yet, suspect we need to find players that fit Amorins system and will suit his style of football he wants to play but will be on the cheaper end of the market, so yeah like your Delaps I guess.

If it stops Hoiland starting next season am all for Delap coming in, paired with Cunha and a few other signings that will all be better suited to the 343 system.
 
hellhunter said:
Like someone said, he won't be taking penalties for us. And he wouldn't be the first striker to crumble under the pressure of leading our line. We all hope he'll improve his tally if we sign him, but I don't think it's a certainty at all
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He's only taken 2 penalties for Ipswich.

This notion that Delap will go down from 10 open goals for a side that's not as strong in quality to 8 goals just out of fear is just weird to me.

Look at the player and how he suits the league. There's so many examples of his excellent carrying, hes very bullish and he strikes the ball very quickly before keepers have a chance to set themselves. He's an absolute pest at 22, youl struggle to find many strikers capable of doing this in their first year of PL football.

Mateta is an interesting comparison who was pretty shit before last season.
 
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