I just worry about his physicality, I think right now you need to be able to physically compete in the Premier League or you're just toast. It's not even a reflection on the quality of the league or the players, it's just the style that's prevalent at the moment.
Rayan Cherki
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I think it's just stamina that I'm unsure on. Cherki seems strong enough to hold his own, and while he's not lightning quick and going to be constantly running in behind the defence I wouldn't say he's actually slow. Feel like he has the dribbling and technical ability to deal with the increase in speed and power in England, unlike Antony and Sancho. Neither aspect is something that would be an outright strength and bring up our base level (actually he probably is stronger than most of our #10's), but I wouldn't consider them weaknesses either. I'm just not sure about his stamina and ability to cover a lot of ground all match. Which might be an issue since Cunha seems to be the same.
I shouldn't do it to myself as I doubt we're signing him and I very rarely jump on the muppet bandwagon anymore, but I've got to say Cherki would be the most hyped I've been on a signing for a long time. Admittedly I haven't seen 'that' much of him so I could easily be wrong, but something tells me he's ready to explode and become a Ballon d'Or challenger in the next few years. I just hope he doesn't come to anyone else in England.
Looked a united player to me when we faced them, especially in that second leg. Direct, entertaining, dangerous.
For the fee it's a no brainer.
His contracts expires in 12 months and he's said he's leaving, i reckon he will cost about 30 million quid.
Ive responded to this above. It always amazes me that people decide to take things so literally. No two players in the world are absolutely identical in any single metric, and that should go without saying. Cunha for example, is a technically talented and creative player who is far more physically imposing. Mbuemo, Eze, Gibbs White, just off the top of my head and just from the Premier League, are all creative players who could play in the 10 role and offer far more athleticism and physicality which we lack to a crazy degree.
I think Garnacho might be unfortunately sacrificed if we get another "10" in as well as Cunha.
Like the look of this fella - good fee as well
Like the look of this fella - good fee as well
I thought he was very good against us but had spells of looking languid and casual, like he decided when to get interested. Its very clear to me what type of players we need this summer - our squad simply cannot compete with most PL teams.
From the limited time I've seen him play, he reminds me of Eden Hazard. I could be very wrong about that though but if he turns out anything like Hazard at Chelsea then we would be a very exceptional player.
Him and Amad on the right would have most left backs on toast.
I don't see how Cunha & Cherki kind of match.
They are kind of the opposite type of players on either side.
Maybe that's a good thing?
Us going for 2 AM pretty much means we won't go for wingbacks because Amorim prefers wingers in that position.
They are kind of the opposite type of players on either side.
Maybe that's a good thing?
Us going for 2 AM pretty much means we won't go for wingbacks because Amorim prefers wingers in that position.
He's nowhere near as good running with the ball as Hazard, like... not even close. Although tbf there's very few people who ever have been.
Him, Cunha, Delap and another striker, plus a Cm. Jesus, that would be incredible.
Shame that won’t happen.
I think just the first 3 plus a midfielder could happen though!
Cherki drawing players to him and having them vacate areas of the pitch for someone like Cunha to shoot or dart into for Cherki to either play in or pick someone else out could be poetry in motion, on the offensive end, at least.
Even that would address quite a lot!
And than you have Onana on goal and it makes me cry...
On a serious note, yes those 3 additions would be great, and even someone like Delap would make it a solid trio.
And than you have Onana on goal and it makes me cry...
On a serious note, yes those 3 additions would be great, and even someone like Delap would make it a solid trio.
Very true! Although I’m confident from the bits and pieces recently that we’re looking at the GK position. Sounds like we’re keen on that Lammens, or Martinez if he’s cheap.
And I agree, if Delap is cheap then he’d be a good option and we can revisit it in 12 months if needed.
Yeah, I think the main aim of this summer has to be adding goals to the team. The other positions are a bonus in my opinion, but if we can beef up our attack then suddenly I think other areas look less urgent because we’ll be scoring goals. Then it’s just adding the rest of the pieces over the next year or two.
This might be all a pipe dream though if we don’t have the money to do any of this, but it feels like we’re intending on getting this attack sorted this summer, if you can believe the rumours in the media.
Don't see why we need to accumulate players for the sake of it. We are already have garnacho, amad, Bruno, mount , zirkzee and maybe Cunha who can play the no. 10 role. Additionally, we are looking at getting a striker. Where is the squad space for Cherki when we have so many other priorities like GK, RWB and CM to address.
Lloris is from OGC Nice. And regarding your point about Fékir, he was a top prospect and very good but he did his knee and was never the same.
Mount and zirkzee are just bodies, we need players that actually contribute.
He only has one year left on his contract, a 60-75m fee won't happen.
Yes, we will have to rationalize our -#10s if we sign both Cunha and Cherki.
My view - I like Zirkzee but we should sell him as he has not looked like a natural fit in either position. He probably will have a buyer too.
Mount - we should use his period of fitness to sell him. We can’t rely on him for a seasonz
Amad - use as RWB. Occasionally as 10 if required.
That leaves Bruno, Cunha, Cherki and Garna as #10s. Cunha can get the odd game as #9 and Bruno in CM. We will also need to rotate Bruno a bit more which will help him.
I would rather keep Garna. Best years to come and he has show enough adaptation this season that he can function as a #10.
Our entire attack has been atrocious all season (bar Amad), and by far the biggest problem in our side. Our attack being so blunt instantly puts significantly more pressure on every other aspect of our team. Not only has there been many games where we've been the better side but just been unable to put the ball in the back of the net, but even in many of the other games it's noticeable the complete lack of respect the opposition give our attack which then plays a part in them getting the advantage elsewhere.
Obviously striker is the priority and the single biggest contributing factor, but our other attacking players haven't been much better.
We've got players who can play the position, but we've also got players who can play CM or RWB. Doesn't mean that they are good enough. I can see arguments for all of those positions to be of higher priority than the others.
This. "Can you feel it, can you feel it, CAN YOU FEEEEL IT"....
I don’t get the argument that just because we have bodies in the ten role we shouldn't keep searching for the right fit. Are we really saying the current options, Amad aside, have delivered in terms of creativity, assists, goal output or general influence in that area?
Yes, we clearly need a good striker, along with reinforcements in other areas like GK, CM and at least one more fullback. But bringing in someone like Cherki doesn’t block that — it strengthens a weak spot. And if a few underperformers need to be sold or loaned to create space, so be it. That’s how serious clubs move. You don’t pause on better talent just to babysit players who haven’t earned the shirt.
manchester?
No, Scunthorpe
makes sense
I don't think it'll be much more. Lyon are desperate for a sale and need to move him on. The only way they get more than 25M is if multiple PL clubs are interested in him and it gets into bidding war territory. No one from Spain / Italy / Germany is going to pay much more than that.
On the PL side, there's some vague interest from Pool, Newcastle and us but I don't think concrete enough
Cherki Cunha in the 10s in front of Bruno as one of the base midfielders and Amad at rwb would be perfect vs the smaller low block teams. Would be on paper our most creative team in a long time.
With Hojlund leading the line.
Depends if we get a striker or not but can see one of Zirkzee/Garnacho playing their too.
Probably academic at this point but if we signed Cherki instead of Cunha we’d have an extra £20-30m to spend elsewhere. I think we are missing a trick yet again with this one. He’s the biggest talent on the market this summer IMO. The sort of player that takes his team up a level like Hazard did for the Chavs.
We can fund him with maybe sell on from Alvaro
if we add Cunha and some how manage to add Cherki....won't fecking matter much who teh striker is because even a half decent forward like Hojlund could score goals with those two lads playing underneath him
Yeah fair point. We should be able to make it work somehow considering his contract situation. I hope we give it a go at least.
Please be true..
Lyon are in serious financial trouble, they don't have much of a choice.