Bruno Fernandes Out?

One problem with selling Bruno to fund a rebuild.

I doubt we can attract the sort of quality we'd need.

For a while we were in and out of CL spots and players viewed our lack of success as a temporary blip.

These days, we're relegation fodder and everyone knows it. And there's no signs we'll ever get back to the top in the next few years.

I'm not sure why any player with a profile would come here, and our recruitment team are nowhere near good enough to find under the radar quality players that don't have a lot of suitors.
 
I think this could happen. If you look at the transfer system from a business point of view it makes sense to sell before your asset's value drops (and Bruno's will, and soon). But it's a viable move only if the fee is high enough to help our awful financial position. I'll be sorry to see him go, if he does, because he has been our one real quality player (yes, often infuriating as well) for a while now. But if we are sticking with Amorim and 3-4-3 it may make football sense as well - though only if we buy well. That central midfield 2 is only going to have a chance of working in the PL if you can field a pair of strong, fit, hard-running players who can break up the opposition and start our own moves. Bruno's not that, and with him there we get the forward passing but we also consistently get outmuscled and outfought. And in the wide front 3 you need pace and athleticism again, with players who can get into the box and get on the end of crosses and knock-downs. He's not that, either.
 
Just seen the interview with him saying with him or not, think he’s had enough of the club and wants to move on and pursue trophies. If he does leave then how does that strike confidence in the fans that Amorim is the right man to lead the team forward if the captain wants out.
 
If we get an 80m+. offer we should take it. Hes 31 next season and we need the money sadly.

Hes performed whilst being in this circus and will probably never get the recognition he deserves
 
He obviously wants to stay but said he’ll leave if the club wants to cash in on him.
 
AbusementPark said:
Just seen the interview with him saying with him or not, think he’s had enough of the club and wants to move on and pursue trophies. If he does leave then how does that strike confidence in the fans that Amorim is the right man to lead the team forward if the captain wants out.
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I don’t think he wants out. He’s always said he wants to make this club great again. He said if the club wants to cash in on him then he’ll leave.
 
Dominos said:
One problem with selling Bruno to fund a rebuild.

I doubt we can attract the sort of quality we'd need.

For a while we were in and out of CL spots and players viewed our lack of success as a temporary blip.

These days, we're relegation fodder and everyone knows it. And there's no signs we'll ever get back to the top in the next few years.

I'm not sure why any player with a profile would come here, and our recruitment team are nowhere near good enough to find under the radar quality players that don't have a lot of suitors.
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We can easily get a replacement and still have money left over from any potential sale. There’s a guy from river plate who I’m sure would love to come to us even without CL football. He’s young aswell and will be hungry. We need to be smart in our signings.
 
Time to cash in. Honestly do feel his input and assists are compounded by his turnover rate - he seems like such an easy player to mark out of the game. Can’t hold onto the ball for toffee.
Club would be mad not to entertain good offers.
 
He's by far our best player, but basically he's 31 and we have no choice but to rebuild. If you can get a big fee, you pretty much have to, sadly.
 
FujiVice said:
He's by far our best player, but basically he's 31 and we have no choice but to rebuild. If you can get a big fee, you pretty much have to, sadly.
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I’d be amazed if you sell him, even for a big fee. When you have a team bereft of leaders, bereft of confidence, a player like him becomes even more valuable. Plus his wage demands will massively limit who can buy him.
 
If we can get 100 million in for him you probably have to take it at this point. Especially if we are sticking with this manager, as I don't see a way of it playing to Bruno's strengths.
 
Shinjch said:
If we can get 100 million in for him you probably have to take it at this point. Especially if we are sticking with this manager, as I don't see a way of it playing to Bruno's strengths.
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I’d say Ruben sees him as part of a midfield 2. Will be his downfall if so. Bruno needs to be behind the striker in a free role, that’s his strength. So we’d need to go 4411, which isn’t going to happen.
 
NicolaSacco said:
I’d be amazed if you sell him, even for a big fee. When you have a team bereft of leaders, bereft of confidence, a player like him becomes even more valuable. Plus his wage demands will massively limit who can buy him.
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The problem is that he has shown no ability to lead, provide confidence or have any value when it comes to the squad performances. I know that it's harsh because he quite obviously talented and his stats are very good but they don't actually lead to any sort success, his presence doesn't lead to any consistent and good performances. I think that I made that comparison before but he reminds me Van Der Vaart, in isolation he is talented, he has good stats but it's futile for his club. The same was kind of true for SCP, Bruno was their best player, he had incredible stats but it led to very little.
 
JPRouve said:
The problem is that he has shown no ability to lead, provide confidence or have any value when it comes to the squad performances. I know that it's harsh because he quite obviously talented and his stats are very good but they don't actually lead to any sort success, his presence doesn't lead to any consistent and good performances. I think that I made that comparison before but he reminds me Van Der Vaart, in isolation he is talented, he has good stats but it's futile for his club. The same was kind of true for SCP, Bruno was their best player, he had incredible stats but it led to very little.
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Disagree. He's the player everyone around looks to when the chips are down. He's absolutely a leader and pretty much everything teammates have said about him would back that up. Also, just because he's played in poor teams doesn't mean he can't work in good ones. It's faulty logic to assume that.
 
I think if the offer of €100 million for Bruno Fernandes is on the table we should accept it. He's nearly 31 and we’re getting to the point where his value and performances will decline over the next seasons. Yes, he’s been a key player for us, but it’s probably the last chance we have to get that kind of money for him.

The club is nowhere near winning major titles in the short term nor medium term. I don't think we'll win anything major before Bruno declines/ retires.

It doesn’t make sense to focus on players who are edging toward the end of their prime when we need to be thinking long-term.

That €100M could go a long way in reinforcing areas of the squad that are extremely urgent, hoping build a team that can challenge in a few years.

For anyone that watched Bruno's after match interview it was clear he's tired about the clubs situation. He came 5-6 years ago, he's spent his prime years here and all he has to show for it are a couple of mickey mouse cups.

Also for him a move to a club in the Middle East or means he would secure a massive wage increase. Secure his future and play another 5+ years in a much less demanding league. I'd take it without a doubt if I was him.
 
Yesterday was one big disappointment but Bruno really did have a stinker. Not at all a captain's performance. Even leaving aside the fact he couldn't make simple passes (but did a couple nice long balls) his mentality was all wrong. Constant whining. No gee'ing up the players or crowd to raise the level.

Thanks for sticking with the team but I think it's best we sell and rebuild.
 
It feels the right time to cash in and for Bruno to move on
The issue is not what money would get , it’s how it’s spent
 
ThanksBoss26 said:
Agreed, I think if a decent European club comes in for him, he’ll see it as time and ask to go.

Still don’t see him going to Saudi, backed up by what he said there.

Any offers from Europe will naturally be for a lower fee for us you’d have thought.
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Don't sell in Europe as we need major funds for rebuild
 
Bruno is obviously a good player but he gets bigged up more than he should do because he's the focal point of everything this team does because it's so crap.

Have to sell him while we can. This is like PSG with Messi/neymar, both were obviously still very good players but you can get rid of good players and still get better as a team. And before anybody chirps up and says we look worse when he doesn't play, that's because it's the same team as he hasn't been replaced.

I would rather have a Xavi Simons/Cherki playing in the number 10 over him for the next three seasons or a Baleba/Wharton playing in CM over him for the next three seasons as well for example.
 
Hope we can good money for him from the Saudis while we still can. Even if we manage to do a complete rebuild in the most optimistic estimate of let's say 3 years, he'll be 33 approaching 34, and he won't be getting any better.
 
reddev3 said:
Bruno is obviously a good player but he gets bigged up more than he should do because he's the focal point of everything this team does because it's so crap.

Have to sell him while we can. This is like PSG with Messi/neymar, both were obviously still very good players but you can get rid of good players and still get better as a team. And before anybody chirps up and says we look worse when he doesn't play, that's because it's the same team as he hasn't been replaced.

I would rather have a Xavi Simons/Cherki playing in the number 10 over him for the next three seasons or a Baleba/Wharton playing in CM over him for the next three seasons as well for example.
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Our track record for replacing players is diabolical is the problem
 
there is only the domestic league and cups for next season.....cash in on him now if the saudis want to come in with a 100m+ offer

with that monies and the sales of rashford, garnacho, antony and sancho....that will give Amorim the monies needed to rebuild the squad with players that can fit the system
 
Where does this idea of a £100m+ Saudi bid come from?

So far the biggest transfer they've made was £76m for Neymar.

I'd be amazed if we got an offer of more than £80m.
 
MaMa given red said:
Where does this idea of a £100m+ Saudi bid come from?

So far the biggest transfer they've made was £76m for Neymar.

I'd be amazed if we got an offer of more than £80m.
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Not saying they’d offer that for Bruno, and I doubt he goes there anyway if he did leave, but they were willing to pay a lot of money for Salah. So it’s not beyond their means.
 
El-Manos said:
Our track record for replacing players is diabolical is the problem
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This does seem to be changing with the new management as they seem to recognise that going for the most talented younger players is the way forward and was only highlighted by the fact they went all in in their pursuit of Yoro even when it meant going head to head with Real Madrid and Ratcliffe saying he wants to find the next Mbappe rather than buy Mbappe.

I think if we sold Bruno the players I mentioned would be the sort of player we would go for to replace him, Cherki was even linked yesterday.

I also think watching PSG sell them the limited Ugarte so they can replace him with the superior teenager in Neves would have opened their eyes a little in the way they need to go.
 
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