ESPN: Amorim prioritising, Pace, Power and Atheticism this summer

dinostar77 said:
According to ESPN theres a distinct lack of pace, power and atheticism in our midfield and tbose attributes are key for our summer midfield purchases

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_...tising-pace-power-man-united-signings-sources

So who do we think Utd will target other than Mbeumo and Semenyo who have already been linked to us?
Click to expand...

I hope we also prioritise technical ability because it's kinda useless to have fast strong players who can't keep or pass a ball
 
dinostar77 said:
According to ESPN theres a distinct lack of pace, power and atheticism in our midfield and tbose attributes are key for our summer midfield purchases

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_...tising-pace-power-man-united-signings-sources

So who do we think Utd will target other than Mbeumo and Semenyo who have already been linked to us?
Click to expand...
loan swap Hojlund for Luiz to push the issue down the road, along with bringing in a 'passer' on a permanent (like Stiller, if the rumour about Madrid wanting him isn't true) or one of the more hybrid Ligue 1 guys like Camara (even though he's not the tallest)
 
I do this in football manager too, just search people interested with greater than 15 for all those attributes. Probably more effective than our scouting has been in recent decades.
 
We could do with players who are decent at passing and shooting too, as well as some players whose decision making isn't utter dogshit.
 
Hopefully he's thinking about when he clears his office, I don't think he will want to hang around too long so those three attributes may come in handy.
 
Only good thing I’ve heard from the news post final loss.
 
After spurs kicked the piss out of us in the final and clearly had more power and pace, this has to be addressed
 
I find it amazing the signings we had under Ole and EtH were often so poor in this regard, especially when the latter and also Ralf described it as a problem.

Maguire
VdB
Telles
Sancho
Ronaldo
Zirkzee
Martinez
De Ligt (kinda)

Not exactly the quickest players in world.
 
Irwin99 said:
I find it amazing the signings we had under Ole and EtH were often so poor in this regard, especially when the latter and also Ralf described it as a problem.

Maguire
VdB
Telles
Sancho
Ronaldo
Zirkzee
Martinez
De Ligt (kinda)

Not exactly the quickest players in world.
Click to expand...
Under Ole we were rapid. Rashford, James, Martial , Pogba (was really pacy for a midfielder) , Mason and Bruno.

Shame that we couldn't build on it or fell of a cliff.
 
I'm curious as to who the potential targets would be, especially at CM other than Ederson whom we have been linked to for a very long time.

id presume with our financial limitations that players who are free transfers or going into last year of their contract would be of interest to us.
 
bond19821982 said:
Under Ole we were rapid. Rashford, James, Martial , Pogba (was really pacy for a midfielder) , Mason and Bruno.

Shame that we couldn't build on it or fell of a cliff.
Click to expand...
But the spine of that team was Maguire, Lindelof, Fred and McTominay and a goalkeeper that wasn’t great at playing out from the back.

I mean it wasn’t weak but it was very basic, not particularly quick or technical and pretty uninspiring. The forward players had plenty of pace to counter but that foundation behind them was not powerful or all that quick.
 
Dyche does too. Hope we are also prioritizing some technical ability too. We're obviously lacking in pace and physicality, but we can't have a lot of Dorgus in the team either (with all due respect). We need a balance
 
Last edited:
Got to find players in the Vitinha and Neves mould. Technique is as important as physicality if we’re aiming for success.

I don’t know why I’m hoping we do that though. It’s been a billion years since we signed an actual top class midfielder. It really is criminal.
 
Swedish_Plumber said:
Got to find players in the Vitinha and Neves mould. Technique is as important as physicality if we’re aiming for success.

I don’t know why I’m hoping we do that though. It’s been a billion years since we signed an actual top class midfielder. It really is criminal.
Click to expand...
Checks Arsenal, City and Liverpool midfield ohhh pace and power…. Of course you need technical quality but you also need to understand your league. You need both of these things in a PL midfield now.
 
Surprised people are complaining about this, it's one of our biggest weaknesses, ruthlessly exposed in the league.

It's encouraging that the club/Amorim appear to have identified this glaring weakness, hopefully they can start to patch it up.
 
feck me. I hope this is complete BS. Technique wins you games not who can run more and jump higher.

We simply never learn.
 
The Hilton said:
Surprised people are complaining about this, it's one of our biggest weaknesses, ruthlessly exposed in the league.

It's encouraging that the club/Amorim appear to have identified this glaring weakness, hopefully they can start to patch it up.
Click to expand...
We need players who can actually pass and control the ball. Not lumberjacks.
 
Cassidy said:
Checks Arsenal, City and Liverpool midfield ohhh pace and power…. Of course you need technical quality but you also need to understand your league. You need both of these things in a PL midfield now.
Click to expand...
Read my comment. I said it’s as important. Meaning I value them highly and closely.
 
bond19821982 said:
Under Ole we were rapid. Rashford, James, Martial , Pogba (was really pacy for a midfielder) , Mason and Bruno.

Shame that we couldn't build on it or fell of a cliff.
Click to expand...
If Pogba had the mentality of PSG's midfielders (Jose couldn't instill it, let alone Ole), City's or Liverpool's, he'd have been a monstrous player, even above his WC wins and Juve titles. Midfield was way above what we currently have, but it was inevitably having to accommodate his flaws (despite having the tools in terms of physique, vision, passing etc), along with Ole's preference for counter-punching over trying to unlock low block sides.

Best games were with a diamond and the split strikers, but with no peak DM and Martial's recurring injuries, plus the issues AWB faced with serving as an attacking FB (then Shaw's injuries on the other side), the team weren't able to transfer it into proper title-challenges past January. If they'd not signed Sancho or Maguire, and instead invested in back-up for Martial, a cheaper and faster alternative to Maguire And a strong DM instead of relying on McT or an ageing Matic, I think that team wins the PL once.
 
While we lack all of those we also are one of the least technically gifted squads in the entire league.

Fitness is a major issue as well. Our squad just looks less fit than our opposition most games.
 
Swedish_Plumber said:
Got to find players in the Vitinha and Neves mould. Technique is as important as physicality if we’re aiming for success.

I don’t know why I’m hoping we do that though. It’s been a billion years since we signed an actual top class midfielder. It really is criminal.
Click to expand...
We should really sign st least one player in CM with technique, like Ardon Jashari. The DM, wing backs, striker can be more physical
 
I would love these signings even if they don't have great tech ability. as long as they're fearless and pricks.

there are 4 tiers to a club

Tier 1 - good tech ability, pace and power
tier 2 - Pace and power (these clubs hover around 8th and 4th if they push it
tier 3 - only good tech ability (these clubs are nice to watch but concede loads, however below 8th to 14th)
tier 4 - neither (worst clubs)


we are currently at tier 4
 
Swedish_Plumber said:
Read my comment. I said it’s as important. Meaning I value them highly and closely.
Click to expand...

So do most. But Vitinha would be a poor signing for us for obvious reasons. If we had more pace and power in the side then sure he would be great. Neves has issues due to his hieght. Again if we already had more height then he would be great.
 
AndySmith1990 said:
We could do with players who are decent at passing and shooting too, as well as some players whose decision making isn't utter dogshit.
Click to expand...
Passing is a very important one. I’m sick of having a midfield that can’t play a 5 yard pass
 
Not really surprising. Our players generally lack either the will or the energy to run, compared to other teams.
 
Whole season these players didn’t play with any urgency and the manager couldn’t do shit about it. I doubt anything will change regardless of who we buy
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
The gits moaning about this are laughably naive
Click to expand...

Yup. It’s the right call, our players run through treacle. This is the thing we’ve been moaning about for ages, teams cut through us, we’re slow, ponderous, have no energy or fizz about us. We get outmuscled, outfought, and it’s constant. We need to address it.
 
Logical, but it should never be at the cost of technique. Need both (captain obvious).

Particularly in central midfield. I don’t want more Ugarte’s and Ederson’s.
 
DWelbz19 said:
Logical, but it should never be at the cost of technique. Need both (captain obvious).

Particularly in central midfield. I don’t want more Ugarte’s and Ederson’s.
Click to expand...
who would you like us to sign? Consider you want an ideal Mainoo partner
 
It’s quite clearly the right route to take but not at the expense of technique of course. Just look at the teams we’ve struggled against, basically every Premier League side is chock full of big athletic players. Newcastle, Palace, Tottenham, Brentford, Villa, Forest etc etc we’ve been made to look like a bunch of unfit kids in comparison.
 
Likely won't come but in my opinion Hugo Larsson combines both technique and physique and would be the ideal CM signing.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.