Viktor Gyökeres

GoonerBear said:
Honestly, with the noises coming out from his uncle and partner, I wouldn't be surprised if he decides to stay and gets a nice pay hike for his troubles.
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Would be kind of cool if he just stayed there. Clearly enjoying life there and playing his best football
 
jamesjimmybyrondean said:
Wows. Definitely a possibility then. Just strange after scoring so much goals he got ignored by all the top clubs
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Gyokeres won and converted a crucial penalty during Sunday’s Taca de Portugal final against Benfica to send the game to extra-time, before Sporting defeated their bitter rivals 3-1. The Sweden international’s girlfriend, Ines Aguiar, was spotted in attendance wearing a Sporting jersey.

Aguiar, who is from Lisbon herself, was at one point swarmed by fans and was faced with questions about Gyokeres’ future. Portuguese outlet A Bola claims the social media influencer said in the viral social media clip that she “promises” to try to persuade her superstar boyfriend to stay with the club for a third season.
 
GoonerBear said:
Gyokeres won and converted a crucial penalty during Sunday’s Taca de Portugal final against Benfica to send the game to extra-time, before Sporting defeated their bitter rivals 3-1. The Sweden international’s girlfriend, Ines Aguiar, was spotted in attendance wearing a Sporting jersey.

Aguiar, who is from Lisbon herself, was at one point swarmed by fans and was faced with questions about Gyokeres’ future. Portuguese outlet A Bola claims the social media influencer said in the viral social media clip that she “promises” to try to persuade her superstar boyfriend to stay with the club for a third season.
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Edurne, we meet again
 
Vidooq said:
Arteta always wanted Sesko more than Gyokeres. Seems like Berta, the new sporting director at Arsenal, was leaning more towards the latter. I guess, Arteta won.
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Never have a doubt Sesko is the player Arteta wants. Gyokeres doesn't fit the player profile for Arteta's tactic.
GoonerBear said:
Honestly, with the noises coming out from his uncle and partner, I wouldn't be surprised if he decides to stay and gets a nice pay hike for his troubles.
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I am not sure if he actually has any concrete offer or serious inquires on hand so early in transfer window.
 
I'd be curious to know how many people clamouring for Gyokeres have actually watched him play consistently? I wasn't aware the Portuguese league was so widely viewed amongst Cafites.

I'm not saying he isn't a good player, he probably is quite a good player - I have only seen bits of him myself. However, I have spent the last 6-months in Portugal and I watch a few games. Some of its decent, some of its terrible.

The point is, the Portuguese league is levels below the Premier League. Honestly, I reckon maybe the bottom third would be relegation candidates in the Championship.

Benfica narrowly missed out on the league and cup double and they play 37 year old Nicolas Otamendi as their starting CB.

Just to reiterate, before the people who can't read or who do their scouting on FIFA come bouncing in...I am sure he's a pretty good player. You have to be pretty good to score 40-odd goals anywhere.

I am just not personally convinced that's he's this elite striker. Its certainly not the slam-dunk signing many portray it as, it's £60m for a player who will be 27 when the season starts and has never played in a big 5 league.

Consider this alternate view with hindsight...let's say we spent £60m and he struggled...would people then have a point in two years time when they say "told you so, signs were there...27 and has only played Primera Liga, Bundesliga 2 and Championship?'
 
Lentwood said:
I'd be curious to know how many people clamouring for Gyokeres have actually watched him play consistently? I wasn't aware the Portuguese league was so widely viewed amongst Cafites.

I'm not saying he isn't a good player, he probably is quite a good player - I have only seen bits of him myself. However, I have spent the last 6-months in Portugal and I watch a few games. Some of its decent, some of its terrible.

The point is, the Portuguese league is levels below the Premier League. Honestly, I reckon maybe the bottom third would be relegation candidates in the Championship.

Benfica narrowly missed out on the league and cup double and they play 37 year old Nicolas Otamendi as their starting CB.

Just to reiterate, before the people who can't read or who do their scouting on FIFA come bouncing in...I am sure he's a pretty good player. You have to be pretty good to score 40-odd goals anywhere.

I am just not personally convinced that's he's this elite striker. Its certainly not the slam-dunk signing many portray it as, it's £60m for a player who will be 27 when the season starts and has never played in a big 5 league.

Consider this alternate view with hindsight...let's say we spent £60m and he struggled...would people then have a point in two years time when they say "told you so, signs were there...27 and has only played Primera Liga, Bundesliga 2 and Championship?'
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Hojlund has 4 league goals this season in 32 games, Gyokeres has 39 league goals in 33 games. I don't care about the level difference, Gyokeres is a million times better.
 
Shane88 said:
If the big sides are ignoring the 60 goal a season striker, there is probably a reason for it. I just don't see him coping in the Premier League.
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Most of the big clubs (Bayern, Madrid, Barca) already have quality #9’s. City have Haaland. Italian sides are usually cheap these days. I think plenty of the big clubs would fancy Gyokeres but the timing is unfortunate for him.

Perhaps the reason Arsenal, Chelsea, and Liverpool haven’t immedietly jumped on him is because, like Osimhen who also seems a no brainer, his wage demands are huge and nobody is yet willing to gamble for fear that he won’t translate his recent form to a much better league.
 
GoonerBear said:
Gyokeres won and converted a crucial penalty during Sunday’s Taca de Portugal final against Benfica to send the game to extra-time, before Sporting defeated their bitter rivals 3-1. The Sweden international’s girlfriend, Ines Aguiar, was spotted in attendance wearing a Sporting jersey.

Aguiar, who is from Lisbon herself, was at one point swarmed by fans and was faced with questions about Gyokeres’ future. Portuguese outlet A Bola claims the social media influencer said in the viral social media clip that she “promises” to try to persuade her superstar boyfriend to stay with the club for a third season.
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Hot. Very hot.
 
Shane88 said:
If the big sides are ignoring the 60 goal a season striker, there is probably a reason for it. I just don't see him coping in the Premier League.
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Sesko has bigger potential but ain’t there yet and Delap is a good price.
 
jamesjimmybyrondean said:
Wows. Definitely a possibility then. Just strange after scoring so much goals he got ignored by all the top clubs
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As I've mentioned before, he's massively, massively overated on here!

He's a 27 year old with two good seasons in the Championship and two good seasons in the Portuguese league under his belt.
 
Can see him staying at Sporting and for the 3rd title in a row and play the CL.

I wouldn't be confident of Amorim being the manager of United by December. If there was good progress I could see him being interested but it's been a disaster with so many losses and negativity about the club. He'd have to be sold on the club project and life after Amorim.
 
Lentwood said:
I'd be curious to know how many people clamouring for Gyokeres have actually watched him play consistently? I wasn't aware the Portuguese league was so widely viewed amongst Cafites.

I'm not saying he isn't a good player, he probably is quite a good player - I have only seen bits of him myself. However, I have spent the last 6-months in Portugal and I watch a few games. Some of its decent, some of its terrible.

The point is, the Portuguese league is levels below the Premier League. Honestly, I reckon maybe the bottom third would be relegation candidates in the Championship.

Benfica narrowly missed out on the league and cup double and they play 37 year old Nicolas Otamendi as their starting CB.

Just to reiterate, before the people who can't read or who do their scouting on FIFA come bouncing in...I am sure he's a pretty good player. You have to be pretty good to score 40-odd goals anywhere.

I am just not personally convinced that's he's this elite striker. Its certainly not the slam-dunk signing many portray it as, it's £60m for a player who will be 27 when the season starts and has never played in a big 5 league.

Consider this alternate view with hindsight...let's say we spent £60m and he struggled...would people then have a point in two years time when they say "told you so, signs were there...27 and has only played Primera Liga, Bundesliga 2 and Championship?'
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Let’s send Hojlund there on loan as a benchmark
 
Romano now reporting that Arsenal wanted Sesko last summer and during the winter window as well, but were denied by Leipzig. Negotiations ongoing now on a deal that was started last summer.
 
MaMa given red said:
As I've mentioned before, he's massively, massively overated on here!

He's a 27 year old with two good seasons in the Championship and two good seasons in the Portuguese league under his belt.
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I only know about him from youtube highlights, but didn't he perform well in CL this season? He is a transition player from the highlights so that's why I don't think he fits Arteta's tactic.
 
What is actually going on on here nowadays? Nobody questions any source. I could tweet anything and you’d just gobble the words up as gospel.
 
The holy trinity 68 said:
You shared a tweet from an account that has 103 followers. Did you just make that account and that rumour an hour ago?
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The account was repeating something that was said on television so the number of followers for the account is immaterial. The notion that he would stay for a 3rd season has been mentioned several times already, the idea of 3 in a row and all that seems to appeal to him and as mentioned he has a very nice life off the pitch there and not every player is looking for the maximum salary like Osimhen, some do value quality of life. He can still take the money next year, it is not like he is over the hill.
 
ThierryHenry14 said:
I only know about him from youtube highlights, but didn't he perform well in CL this season? He is a transition player from the highlights so that's why I don't think he fits Arteta's tactic.
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Again this is another thing that's been massively overstated, he scored a hatrick (including two penalties) against a Man City team at a time when even we were beating them.

The way people talk about him you'd think he'd single handidly dragged Sporting all the way to the final!
 
Gandalf said:
The account was repeating something that was said on television so the number of followers for the account is immaterial. The notion that he would stay for a 3rd season has been mentioned several times already, the idea of 3 in a row and all that seems to appeal to him and as mentioned he has a very nice life off the pitch there and not every player is looking for the maximum salary like Osimhen, some do value quality of life. He can still take the money next year, it is not like he is over the hill.
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Thanks, was going to say similar. I mean, there's a picture of the uncle being interviewed on TV, and multiple reports thats what was said, it was just the first account I seen on X when searching.
 
Lentwood said:
I'd be curious to know how many people clamouring for Gyokeres have actually watched him play consistently? I wasn't aware the Portuguese league was so widely viewed amongst Cafites.

I'm not saying he isn't a good player, he probably is quite a good player - I have only seen bits of him myself. However, I have spent the last 6-months in Portugal and I watch a few games. Some of its decent, some of its terrible.

The point is, the Portuguese league is levels below the Premier League. Honestly, I reckon maybe the bottom third would be relegation candidates in the Championship.

Benfica narrowly missed out on the league and cup double and they play 37 year old Nicolas Otamendi as their starting CB.

Just to reiterate, before the people who can't read or who do their scouting on FIFA come bouncing in...I am sure he's a pretty good player. You have to be pretty good to score 40-odd goals anywhere.

I am just not personally convinced that's he's this elite striker. Its certainly not the slam-dunk signing many portray it as, it's £60m for a player who will be 27 when the season starts and has never played in a big 5 league.

Consider this alternate view with hindsight...let's say we spent £60m and he struggled...would people then have a point in two years time when they say "told you so, signs were there...27 and has only played Primera Liga, Bundesliga 2 and Championship?'
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Spot on!
Even Porto and Benfica aren't particularly strong in that league.

The Portuguese league is currently ranked as the 7th highest league in Europe, below the Dutch League.
 
Can he head the ball?

Can he back into a big defender and control and pass?

What's his first touch score out of 10?

Can he create his own chance with a turn or dribble?

Can he make the most out of a non perfect cross?
 
MaMa given red said:
Spot on!
Even Porto and Benfica aren't particularly strong in that league.

The Portuguese league is currently ranked as the 7th highest league in Europe, below the Dutch League.
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We got Bruno from sporting and he's done well

I just think there's risks in all transfers, it needs to be researched well and if they have the attributes then get them in and hope it clicks

mostly all transfers are gambles.

In the current market though strikers are rare, and very expensive. For his price it isn't bad considering what strikers are going for and how in demand they are
 
Lentwood said:
I'd be curious to know how many people clamouring for Gyokeres have actually watched him play consistently? I wasn't aware the Portuguese league was so widely viewed amongst Cafites.

I'm not saying he isn't a good player, he probably is quite a good player - I have only seen bits of him myself. However, I have spent the last 6-months in Portugal and I watch a few games. Some of its decent, some of its terrible.

The point is, the Portuguese league is levels below the Premier League. Honestly, I reckon maybe the bottom third would be relegation candidates in the Championship.

Benfica narrowly missed out on the league and cup double and they play 37 year old Nicolas Otamendi as their starting CB.

Just to reiterate, before the people who can't read or who do their scouting on FIFA come bouncing in...I am sure he's a pretty good player. You have to be pretty good to score 40-odd goals anywhere.

I am just not personally convinced that's he's this elite striker. Its certainly not the slam-dunk signing many portray it as, it's £60m for a player who will be 27 when the season starts and has never played in a big 5 league.

Consider this alternate view with hindsight...let's say we spent £60m and he struggled...would people then have a point in two years time when they say "told you so, signs were there...27 and has only played Primera Liga, Bundesliga 2 and Championship?'
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54 goals and 12 assists this season after Amorim was the manager who he made his real break through and clicked under. He can score a quarter of the goals he did this season and still be an improvement on Hojlund. He's clearly multiple levels above that league and even if he might not score 30+ goals in the prem (be it equally, he might), United is in desperate need of a CF if we want this project to go anywhere. If we don't sign an experienced striker who can instantly lead the line here, then Amorim's days are numbered and whoever comes in to replace him will also fail. This club will continue to fail until we get a reliable, experienced #9.
 
MaMa given red said:
Again this is another thing that's been massively overstated, he scored a hatrick (including two penalties) against a Man City team at a time when even we were beating them.

The way people talk about him you'd think he'd single handidly dragged Sporting all the way to the final!
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We're quite clearly aiming for a frontline and a type of play where a goal can come from anywhere. He is hyper mobile and annoying to face and the profile to cause havoc. Cunha / Amad and vice versa will greatly benefit.

The space created will be enough for one of them to be the threat. No one is realistically thinking he comes here and smashes in 45 goals. Not many other ready made options out there either. It makes sense, he is also a successful international.
 
The holy trinity 68 said:
Hojlund has 4 league goals this season in 32 games, Gyokeres has 39 league goals in 33 games. I don't care about the level difference, Gyokeres is a million times better.
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The goal is not "better stats than Hojlund" though. If that's the criteria we could essentially sign any forward who played more than 20 PL games.
 
I have a feeling that he will end in United. Or it is just blind hope...who knows.
 
bosnian_red said:
54 goals and 12 assists this season after Amorim was the manager who he made his real break through and clicked under. He can score a quarter of the goals he did this season and still be an improvement on Hojlund. He's clearly multiple levels above that league and even if he might not score 30+ goals in the prem (be it equally, he might), United is in desperate need of a CF if we want this project to go anywhere. If we don't sign an experienced striker who can instantly lead the line here, then Amorim's days are numbered and whoever comes in to replace him will also fail. This club will continue to fail until we get a reliable, experienced #9.
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I don't disagree but are you absolutely sure that is Gyokeres...because at 27, with a £60m fee and likely a sizeable wage packet, we need to be sure. We have gotten ourselves into a position where we can't afford to make big mistakes.

Personally, if we want 'proven' and we're going to spend decent cash to get that, I would much, much prefer Osimhen.
 
Here's the thing about a great player playing in an inferior league :-

If they're genuinely great, all of their achievements and accolades can be downplayed as a result of circumstance and environment.

In other words, it can be simultaneously true that :-

(1) the environment is easier to perform in, and
(2) that they're genuinely a brilliant player

The assumption therein will be that (2) happens because of (1), however, that's a flawed way of thinking, because exceptional players will always perform brilliantly in weaker environments, however, exceptional players won't be reliant upon them to perform, hence why his exception form carried into the Champions League too. If it were the case of circumstance, then there would be a disparity between his domestic performances and his european ones, but there aren't.

And ultimately, unless and until you buy these players and give them the platform, you can never be satisfied that your argument about them performing in a weak league will be validated. You take chances with players, and they either sink or swim.
 
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